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OddGarfield In reply to earthl1ng [2016-01-29 21:43:41 +0000 UTC]

You make no sence what so ever.

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Slimey-Slime In reply to OddGarfield [2016-05-07 22:37:11 +0000 UTC]

So does you for saying a fetus gets oxygeon from it's mother, which would kill her.

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OddGarfield In reply to Slimey-Slime [2016-05-07 23:05:06 +0000 UTC]

Obviously you do not understand how blood cells operate in the human body.

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Slimey-Slime In reply to OddGarfield [2016-05-07 23:06:14 +0000 UTC]

Wait, are you fucking kidding me?

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OddGarfield In reply to Slimey-Slime [2016-05-07 23:07:32 +0000 UTC]

No, I think you're kidding yourself with your logic of how you think an unborn baby survives in the womb.

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Slimey-Slime In reply to OddGarfield [2016-05-07 23:09:49 +0000 UTC]

It is not even alive, you dumbass, stop poisoning your mind with false facts, and a being has to be born to be considered human. If not, it's just a clump cells that develops till you eventually give birth through your ass.

If that fetus you saved turned out to be a serial murderer, will you still fight for it's rights?

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spitesyre In reply to Slimey-Slime [2019-02-27 20:27:53 +0000 UTC]

The fetus is not alive? I mean I guess so once it's dead from being killed during an abortion. 
Your lack of knowledge of pregnancy is seriously unfathomable. A fetus develops a heart, lungs, it does breathe oxygen (through its placenta), a brain, organs, it eats and moves around, and can even hear its mother and father speak, so yes. It very much is alive. If by your logic it is just a "clump of cells" then so are you and every other person on this planet. You also do not give birth through your ass, it's through the vagina. 
You can use the "what if" scenario as the other way around too. Maybe that child wouldn't grow up to be a serial killer if it had parents that were mature and smart, unlike you. 

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Kimpossible16 In reply to steinhakasei [2013-05-01 21:28:32 +0000 UTC]

If you are not ashamed of that then you wouldn't be ashamed to kill your own child. You have been deceived and I'm sorry about that. But, God forgives ALL of our sins and not one is too horrific to him. Just ask and He will forgive you too.

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steinhakasei In reply to Kimpossible16 [2013-05-08 04:55:20 +0000 UTC]

I would never harm a child. But a fetus is not a child, its simply a fetus. Not a baby, not an infant nor child.

Deceived by what exactly? By things that I consider to be morally acceptable? By the fact that women have a right to control their bodies? Or was it my schooling that deceived me?
Not to sound offensive, but I dont believe in god. I used to be Catholic, but have since defected from organized faith. It doesnt do me any good. So even if he were to forgive me, I would turn his forgiveness away, because I dont believe I have done anything that needs to be forgiven.

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Kimpossible16 In reply to steinhakasei [2013-05-08 14:48:36 +0000 UTC]

Thats good. I'm glad your not Catholic anymore. But, I'm sorry. If you helped with an abortion, then you killed a child. If you want to go by "science", then science says that a child is created at conception. They are alive and human.

Deceived by all the humanistic trash you have been hearing. Like abortion is okay. Animals are more important than humans. And, lets not forget. We have no God, but ourselves.

And if you committed one sin, such as lying or hating someone, that is a sin. And one sin will keep you out of heaven fo eternity. Which is exactly why God sent His son Jesus Christ to die for My sins and Your sins.

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steinhakasei In reply to Kimpossible16 [2013-05-08 22:52:02 +0000 UTC]

Im glad as well. It was suffocating.
Im sorry to beat a dead horse, so to speak, but there was no dead child. Abortion terminates a zygote, embryo or fetus. Children are born, and as such cannot be involved in abortion. Biology says an organism is created as conception, it doesnt say anything about it going from a sperm and an egg, to a child. It doesnt work that way, there are stages that life form goes through, and in each stage it is called something different based upon its level of development.

Abortion is perfectly ok in my eyes. The women are well within their rights to decide who can and cannot be inside their bodies. Besides that, I was under the impression that pregnancy and child birth was a positive thing, not a punishment.
Wait, when did animals come into this?

I dont recall a lie, closest thing would be me simply not telling someone my name online, even then I dont make something up. Also, I dont hate anyone. Hate the action, not the person. Even if I did sin, I do not regret it nor do I wish to enter heaven. If I do, great. If not, I see no issues.
Jesus, as you said, died for our sins. That way, we could go to heaven. How can a sin keep me from heaven, when the purpose of his death was to stop that from happening?

As I said already, I have no regrets nor a need to be forgiven. No disrespect meant to your god, but I would turn his forgiveness down.

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Kimpossible16 In reply to steinhakasei [2013-05-09 15:20:05 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry about that. Because you will have to stand before him one day.

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steinhakasei In reply to Kimpossible16 [2013-05-10 00:06:16 +0000 UTC]

I will be happy to, and I will defend my choices and morals to him. If I am to be condemned, then so be it.

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Kimpossible16 In reply to steinhakasei [2013-05-10 15:47:30 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry but sin is sin. No matter how you try to explain it away. People get the idea in their head that God is going to weigh their good from their bad. Thats not how its going to be. Theres only one of two places you can go. And one place wasn't created for us, but thats where people who havent accepted God's gift go. Please listen while you still can.

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steinhakasei In reply to Kimpossible16 [2013-05-11 07:08:35 +0000 UTC]

Well sinning or not, it makes no different to me. I have no religion, so saying something is a sin means nothing to me, no offense meant.
Im sorry, but I spent my childhood listening, and I dont like what I hear from the people, and I dont like hearing nothing from a god that is supposedly there. I will spend my life the way I choose, and do what I feel is right. If god sends me to hell, then so be it.

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Kimpossible16 In reply to steinhakasei [2013-05-11 16:31:26 +0000 UTC]

I understand. I just wanted you to hear the gospel. That's what the bible says to do, preach the gospel. I can't force you to do anything.

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steinhakasei In reply to Kimpossible16 [2013-05-12 03:10:22 +0000 UTC]

Thats understandable. I have heard it before but I appreciate the effort.

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mechobo74 In reply to Saiidi [2007-03-25 20:56:29 +0000 UTC]

Hmm, I guess retarded and disabled people aren't really people then either. Let's execute them and use them for food or something. Surely an intellectual little high schooler like yourself could have noticed that.

As for the 12 year old bit, ever heard of adoption?

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Sakimori In reply to mechobo74 [2007-11-21 00:13:47 +0000 UTC]

Adoption?

On average, 1,606,000 fetuses are aborted every year.

Know how many children are actually adopted each year (on average)?
141,800

SO... that means that even IF every single abortion didn't happen and the mother put the child up for adoption and even IF there were NO other foster children, 1,464,200 would still be left without a home.

19,224 children were adopted out of 692,506 (2.7%) in foster care

WOW. That SURE does leave a lot of children without a home and a loving family.


WHAT? That's not all there is to the madness?!?!?!:
~13% of all adopted children were returned to state officials
~25% of all adopted children who are older or who have physical or emotional problems were returned by their adopters
~25% are ages 12-17 will be sent back to agencies and their adoptions dissolved
(Note: adoptions are not followed up beyond first year).
~4 years is the maximum wait for a foster child to be adopted
~6 years is the true average wait for a foster child to be adopted in New York.

~15% of ALL adoptions fail.

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Kimpossible16 In reply to Sakimori [2013-05-01 20:56:09 +0000 UTC]

Is'nt there something you all are forgeting? LOOK UP THE LATIN WORD FOR "FETUS". MEANING OF LATIN WORD "FETUS"-LITTLE BABY. Up to two weeks after conception an ultrasound detects a heartbeat. Yet, abortion doctors tell young women-who are scared-that what is inside of them is just a clump of non-living cells. Hmm? That does'nt sound like they are not living. And whether or not a child gets a loving home is not the point. Lots of people have risen up out of things like that and become great people. The point is that the children should have the chance to live. John 10:10

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blazeb4ozzy In reply to Sakimori [2012-10-27 00:49:26 +0000 UTC]

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Saiidi In reply to mechobo74 [2007-03-25 21:37:29 +0000 UTC]

Until you are in the position that I was faced with, I can't respect your opinion.

Abortions happen, regardless of legality.

People die, there's no escaping it

As for your hostility - It's not necessary.

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mechobo74 In reply to Saiidi [2007-03-26 00:00:48 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, but they were a hell of a lot less frequent before they became legal. And frankly, I don't care if you respect my opinion or not.

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Saiidi In reply to mechobo74 [2007-03-26 00:14:43 +0000 UTC]

They were less frequent, yes, but there were also no restrictions. So the abortions could be performed during the second trimester or whenever, really - When now, it's illegal to have an Abortion when the Fetus is physically capable of living on it's own. [Aka about the second trimester ]

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Saiidi In reply to mechobo74 [2007-03-25 21:35:48 +0000 UTC]

"retarded" people, as you like to call them, or Mentally Challenged people are not attached to people like a Parasite.

What 12 year old wants to spend 9 months of her life taking care of and suffering because of something that's not hers?

I'd be against abortion if our Orphanages were empty.

Until then, it's a personal choice.

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mechobo74 In reply to Saiidi [2007-03-25 23:59:07 +0000 UTC]

Sure they are. If they're severely handicapped then someone has to take care of them around the clock.

As for the 12 year old, life isn't fair. And if anyone should have to make a decision, I think a parent would be best. Luckily those things don't happen too often.

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Saiidi In reply to mechobo74 [2007-03-26 00:12:51 +0000 UTC]

Yes, but that's CARING for someone. They aren't physically attached to you. What you eat doesn't affect their health.. They can't just suddenly die for no reason inside of you

Life isn't fair, of course it's not. But do we really value the life of a sack of cells more than we value a 12 year old?

And, what if the parent is responsible? Then what? The fetus is probably going to die as it is. Incest causes extreme deformities.

Better to take a pill and have your period than watch a baby with organs die imo

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Guda-The-Hermit In reply to Saiidi [2012-08-31 03:53:06 +0000 UTC]

Abortion is a choice to kill your future child. If you are willing to have an abortion on an unbord child, then you are saying that you would be willing to kill your own kid.

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blazeb4ozzy In reply to Guda-The-Hermit [2012-10-27 00:49:07 +0000 UTC]

Abortion and murder are two COMPLETELY different things.

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meteorbender In reply to blazeb4ozzy [2013-02-23 15:46:36 +0000 UTC]

May I ask why you say that? Abortion is directly killing a living being, an unborn human who has been given the chance to live a life here on earth, intentionally. Murder is intentionally, directly taking the life of a person. I do not see the difference. Can you please explain this difference you claim?

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meteorbender In reply to meteorbender [2013-02-24 14:27:56 +0000 UTC]

Nah, it's okay. I respect your point of view. It's just that it's that precious chance to life that counts. No one has the right to take that chance away from one who cannot even defend it. This is what I personally believe. There are medical facts to support my statement above but I'll just leave this conversation at that.

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