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A popular suggestion for Echo Fighter back in the headdy, Wild West days of Smash Bros Ultimate speculation was Ninten, the proto Ness.He would have fit the mould easily not only because he functions almost exactly the same way as Ness (and Lucas!) mechanically, but also because his design is very similar to Ness.
But that was probably his undoing. If he's so similar to Ness, how would people easily tell the difference? People who don't know anything about the Mother series? Anybody who's watching a fast paced battle from a distance?
He is, however, a great addition to this project. I know I have quite a few Earthbound characters already but Ninten neatly rounds out the trio of protagonists from all three games.
I know there's a widely accepted fan design for Ninten from an old Japanese advert and I'm fine with it - I actually rather like that design but I wanted to do something different for my project, something more 'official'.
When I think of Ninten I always picture his Famicom sprite, with his eyes just peeking out from under his hat. The rest of the design was rounded out using his official artwork. It's a shame there wasn't some other prop I could have used to make the picture just a little more interesting. I almost had him holding his inhaler but that felt like I was focussing on his weaknesses so all he got was a few little spanglies.
Is he likely to show up as DLC? I highly doubt it. Unless they do something drastically different with him, I don't think they can get away with only making him Lucas-like in differences. Heck, he's probably already a spirit though!
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You have his left arm and left leg both forward, they should be opposites
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He's pulling a PK Pose.
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Earthbound is one of many series I don't have a personal connection with, but respect and know a decent amount about. As far as I know it's also one of the only Nintendo franchises (probably one of the few video game franchises ever) to officially be discontinued-just a weird distinction I noticed.
As far as becoming his own character (assuming Sakurai doesn't surprise people with new Echo Characters) I can see some liberties being aken to make him distinct, and I'm sure that there's at least one more unique location in the original Earthbound to make into a stage. Same with music. Similarities in design could be a problem-Sakurai's updated characters like Simon and K.Rool for Smash, but I wouldn't want him to deviate too much from his design... a bit of a pickle.
If not Ninten, Porky or the Masked Men would be the simplest alternatives... but considering what I know about the Masked Man, I think Porky would make the most sense. He was already in Brawl's Subspace Emissary, and Sakurai's a big Earthbound fan, so why not?
Also, with how many franchises are making it to Switch, I wonder if we'll eventually get some form of Mother 3 (or Earthbound _______ when it's given an official translation). At the very least, it would be cool if the original Earthbound made it to the Switch Online Service.
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I hope it's only a matter of time until we get a localised Mother 3, and packing it into a complete trilogy would be a great way to do it. Maybe include some concept art, that kind of thing.
In fact, I can't believe that even now Mother 3 has no official character artwork at all! It's a shame that all of the spirits have to use low definition sprites.
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I think a big Mother/Earthbound collection would be the simplest solution, maybe remastered visually-something like with Street Fighters, having hand drawn graphics with options like toggling between that and the original artstyle. The Nintendo Online is being relegated to NES titles (which could change, but I won't assume that's the case) so releasing it through there isn't likely. Earthbound made a significant splash on the Wii U when it came out there, and Nintendo went out of their way to translate and announce Earthbound Beginnings. Between the memes and the proof, it's obvious they know the demand is there, even if it's from a niche but dedicated fanbase. I've got to assume timing was a bit of a problem, especially since things didn't work out with the Wii U when they seemed to be giving the series a bit of a push again in the West.
Trying to avoid spoilers for Spirits, so I have to ask-are even the clay figures from Mother 3 not included for the Spirits? That would definitely be a shame, especially with Sakurai going further with the references thanks to Lucas' Final Smash.
Also, I kind of came to terms with the stock artwork being used to mitigate work hours on trophies. As much as I would prefer original artwork that looked nicer, or full 3D models, I have to assume getting them for every character included in Smash as Spirits may not be worthwhile, especially when it comes to super obscure references NO ONE would get. I'm also kind of liking the way the art selection is done, since I get to see all sorts of art styles from games and developers from years past-especially when it's similar art styles that changed over time, like Pokemon.
Not ideal obviously, but it was a reasonable compromise to me. Honestly, it makes adding more Spirits later on way more feasible too for any new games that come out afterwards.
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Well Nintendo didn't actually go "out of their way" to translate Earthbound Beginnings, it was translated when it was first made but never ultimately released in the west, so they were just using the old translation:Β earthbound.fandom.com/wiki/Earβ¦
Unfortunately there were no clay figures made for Mother 3, unless you know something I don't - the only ones I've ever seen have been fan art.
And yes! There is already evidence of new spirits being added after the game's release so I'd love to see regular additions.
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That's very flattering of you, thanks very much!
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Any time, I love you homie.
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I'd like Ninten playable, that way all the EarthBound/MOTHER protagonists will be in Smash!
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Great job with this! I like the take on his eyes. There is one bit of equipment that he wore in a old commercial, a handkerchief/scarf thing. Personally I don't think he would have worked as an echo because in the game he learns no offence PSI. That always made me picture him using moves that buff his or lower opponent's stats and using all the items like the boomerang.
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Yeah, I mentioned the commercial already.
The thing is, Ness and Lucas don't learn offensive PSI either so I don't think that's any reason to discount Ninten as an Echo but I do think something more relevant to the character would be nice.
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Thereβs actually loads of speculation for Porky being in the dlc to celebrate Motherβs 30th Anniversary, so Iβm Crossing my fingers and praying he gets in.
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Hoho, that sound pretty far fetched to me but I'd be ecstatic to discover it was true!
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So would I! He is pretty unlikely, and idk why Nintendo would celebrate a series that only has 3 games, especially one that isnβt localized, without making a new game, because the original creator said he was never working on another EB game, but itβd be great to see a Remake of Mother 3, and maybe a localized version of the original can be included!
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