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Published: 2013-11-28 18:18:01 +0000 UTC; Views: 2738; Favourites: 47; Downloads: 4
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going on my promise to draw more warriors and stuff and less ponies
poor squirrelflight, just about everyone in the fandom hates her, and for what? DUMPING ASHFUR
WARNING! THE FOLLOWING IS BASED OFF PURE UNADULTERATED OPINION AND SOME FACTS IF YOU WISH TO SHARE YOUR OPINION PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO SO, THANK YOU
ALSO I'M NOT TRYING TO CHANGE YOUR OPINION IN ANYWAY THANK YOU AGAIN
ok ok let's get this straight, i USED to like ashfur but as i read along in the series i started to not like him especially after squirrelflight dumped him
i started thinking "wow what a dick, judging brambleclaw just because of what his father did" as a matter of fact i started to think recently that he only did that because he wanted squirrelflight to be all like "ewww your right he's a dick! even though it was tigerstar that killed your mom and not brambleclaw..."
seriously wtf people? squirellflight did more good in the series then bad, she took care of leafpool's kits and kept her secret, she never actually tried to hurt ashfur, she only did what she did because she didn't love him, is that so wrong? and isn't that what people do when they fall out of love? break up? sure ashfur still loved squirrelflight but she didn't and the way HE acted was much worse
let's see... he rages out (kind of like what squirrelflight is doing up there), then he TRYs to convince squirrelflight that brambleclaw's no good because of what his FATHER DID! he helped try to kill firestar, AND he tried to kill his own aprentice and his siblings...
ashfurs warrior code breakage rap sheet is MUCH longer then hers
once again i'm not trying to change your opinion on ashfur i'm just trying to shed some light on this issue and also alot of people's reason to not liking squirrelflight is rather... well how should i put this... not very good?
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i feel as the years went by the hate for her had died down a bit
which i am glad for
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Honestly, I get really pissed off when people make ashfur all emo, and hate Squirrelflight when all she did was say 'I don't love you.'
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"Oh, he just loved too much."
I'M PRETTY SURE TRYING TO FREAKING MURDER HER FATHER AND BURN HER KITS ALIVE JUST BECAUSE SHE FLIPPING BROKE UP WITH YOU IS NOT LOVE AT ALL!
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srsly
WTF
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WHAT IS LOVE!?
BABY DON'T HURT ME!
DON'T HURT ME!
NO MORE!
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NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP
NEVER GONNA LET YOU DOWN
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YES!!!
THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING YOUR OPINION!!!
IT IS BASICALLYBTHE SAME AS MINE!!!
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*dances around maui style*
YOU'RE WELCOME!
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I N T E R N A L S C R E A M I N G
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I love this so much. Seriously, look at Ashfur in the bottom.
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I love both Squirrelflight and Ashfur. I also enjoy Bramblestar.
I just found Squirrelpaw really annoying in Midnight because of the way she acted due to being very young~!
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I adore Squirrelflight. She is my favorite character in the whole series, if not any book. I love her personality, and her moments of humanity. I can relate to her very much. Ashfur, however, is another story. At first I liked him. And then he tried to kill Firestar. I feel as though his character went in a downward spiral after that. He fought with Lionblaze when he was supposed to teach him, and went as far as to try to murder three innocent cats for petty revenge so he could sleep better. And he got into StarClan because he only 'loved to much'. Yeah, none of that seems like love to me, idiots. When he died, I was happy. *waits for hate*
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lol yeah, at first i also liked ashfur, then he became a psycho crazy dick
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I hated Squirrelflight when she was an apprentice. She was just annoying and bratty. After she came back from the journey, she was much more mature and I started to like her a little. I have respect for the character, but I still don't particularly like her. I always loved Ashfur. I hate that Erin Hunter had to throw away his personality for something so stupid. I hate Ashfur fans who try to give him excuses. I love him and all, but there are no excuses for what he did, or tried to do. They say he loved too much, but obviously not enough. Maybe he did go a bit insane, but that still isn't an excuse. I think the reason people like Ashfur more than Squirrelflight is because they think that she used him to make Brambleclaw jealous. In reality, she didn't. They were good friends and they could've stayed that way if Ashfur didn't feel like he needed to take revenge.
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i agree, ashfur and his fans got a bit out of hand, it's ok to like a character, but it's not ok to make stuff up about another character. it's actually not in squirrelflight's personality to use someone as stated by erin hunter, squirrelflight is to straight forward to ever do that.
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Exactly. More fans need to look at the facts instead of making excuses and trying to shove them down other people's throat.
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When I was younger, an old acquaintance of mine introduced me to Warriors and gave Squirrelflight such a bad wrap that I didn't like her either. But as I actually read the books and thought more about her character, she grew on me, and I realized that it was stupid to hate a character just because she dumped that person's favourite character. Besides, there have been guys I've dated only to realize that I didn't really care for them in a romantic way, so we broke it off - that's the better thing to do.
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same thing happened to me once, i dated this boy, but i realized i didn't like him in THAT way. it's normal, especially when your at that age were you're still figuring things out about yourself
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Exactly. And it wasn't like she was seeing him just to see him, either - she found comfort in his company, but over time she began to realize that she didn't truly /love/ him. Like when Leafpool and Crowfeather ran off, she thought about whether or not she could do that for Ashfur and realized that she wouldn't, but when she considered Brambleclaw she felt differently. It was a process over time.
She really needs more credit, I think...
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how? sure she had an attitude, but she got that from her mother, she did mature over time.
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Honestly, she was just so stupid, and had such an attitude. How do people like her yet hate blackstar?
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despite her attitude she was very loyal, she never led anyone on. and i'm not sure why people hate blackstar, i guess it was because of how big of an ass he was or something
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I think squirrel flight was a bigger ass than blackstar. She's pretty over rated too.
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eh, i still like squirrelflight, she was a very loyal cat, and i thought her attitude was pretty funny, because it reminded me so much of sandstorm. i also thought her relationship with brambleclaw was cute
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She was loyal, I will give her that. But I think she was a bit to Rashinal to be deputy. I liked her relationship with ashfur much more. He seemed to respect her and she was stupid to leave him.
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Ashfur never respected her for shit. I am pretty sure that burning your children alive doesn't mean respect. It just means that he's an asshole who threw a huge tantrum. The moment she offered friendship, he threw a tantrum and judged Bramble, causing a huge hissy fit and making her feel like shit. That ain't respect. That's just a guy who never really grew up.
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ummm, squirrelflight and ashfur were never in an actual relationship, they were just friends, i don't get why people think that. though she knew ashfur liked her, she just wanted to be friends with him, and asfur freaking exploded at her because of that. and besides i didn't see any respect from ashfur, he just wanted her booty, that's why he flipped out at her for "leaving him". he went by the logic of "SHE WAS NICE TO ME SO SHE OWES ME A RELATIONSHIP AND THE V!"
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Um, still, maybe she should of made it more clear that they where just friends. And cats don't just want " booty" because they are cats, and they do not check out the butts. So no logic there...
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she did make it clear! she told him she only wanted to be friends!
and that part about ashfur wanting "booty" was an expression, what i meant was, he only wanted to be in a relationship with her, nothing else.
and if he was respectful towards squirrelflight then he would have just excepted her decision, instead of TRYING TO STRANGLE HER FATHER AND BURN HER "CHILDREN" ALIVE HAVING HER REVEAL A SECRET THAT WOULD RUIN THUNDERCLAN"S REPUTATION
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I found it very funny that he went that far, being I didn't like hollyleaf, and would gladly like to read about her getting burned, and firestar needed to die.
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i didn't find it funny, i found it incredibly butthurt and stupid, i really don't think he should have gone to starclan either. that was just horrid writing and fan-service, because he didn't "love too much", if he loved squirrelflight, he would have excepted her choice with dignity and not acted like a spoiled brat.
i personally like hollyleaf, she's one of my favorite characters
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I hate hollyleaf more than I do any other cat. She was such a hypocrite. She killed ashfur because he " was gonna tell the truth" then told it it herself. And if the truth " was all that mattered" she should have let him say it. At least he wouldn't make two clans look bad. And if " the warrior code" meant anything to her she wouldn't have ran like a pussy from her clan, after killing, for no good reason, a clanmate. If the truth was all that mattered she should of stepped up, and told firestar what she did.
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ok story time!
hollyleaf killed ashfur because he was going to hurt squirrelflight and the clan, she had NO idea who her parents were by the time she killed him. then yellowfang told jayfeather that crowfeather was their father, hollyleaf denied it, but leafpool confirmed it. and that crushed hollyleaf, because the warrior code meant EVERYTHING to her, then she found out her very EXISTENCE was against the code. she told the clans about their birth parents because she felt it would punish leafpool. she ran away because she felt no one would understand why she did what she did (and in a way she was right), not because she's a "pussy".
here, this video will better explain what happen: www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLfwd3…
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Hollyleaf was still an idiot in ny eyes.
If she was going to leave her clan she
Should have stayed gone. She should have
Never gone crawling back.
That, and her character way overpowering. She killed ashfur, almost killed sol, and was really " strong" and " saved" her clan when the dark forest attacked. Mm no. The dark forest was way out numbered. They would of lost with or without her help. Dove wing could not die, she was part of a great prophecy. Dove wing herself is over powered. In fact, jayfeather was the only one who wasn't, because all he could do was see other cats dreams, not hear everything or what not. And hollyleaf over reacted majorly. If she wanted to still follow she could have. She never had to kill ashfur. She never had to leave. She never had to tell anyone what happened. It would of all worked out for her in the end.
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hollyleaf wasn't apart of the prophecy, they made that very clear in the books. yes she did kill ashfur, that doesn't make a character overpowered, if that's the case then scourge is a MAJOR mary sue, as well as tigerstar.
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Scourge was a Mary sue. I'm just saying, hollyleaf " had the power" to kill a lot of cats.
Most of erin hunters characters are Mary sues.
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had the power? what power? the power of slashing someone in the right spot? she didn't have a power
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Well, come on, can a cat really kill in one blow, like hollyleaf did?
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i thought she strangled him
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She bit into the back of his neck.
It's in Hollyleafs story I believe c:
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oh, like what tigerstar did to red tail
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I'm not sure how he killed him, but it was dumb to kill off a character that wasn't really in the book. I would have liked to see how tigerstar acted around redtail, and it would make the book more intense..
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didn't they make a book about tigerstar?
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