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Description Ok so there was a journal in the 2P Hetalia group I'm in that asked everyone what thier interpritation of 2P was, because it's not cannon.  

At what better place to rant then a journal?!

So here's my take, 2P is darker, but the 1P's still have thier dark sides too.  So Dark!America would be different then 2P!America.  But they can be similar.  I don't think 2P is the opposite, even though alot of people like to think so, and that's fine!  But, like I said on various occasions, I like the dark stuff.  So when people make a 2P Belarus for example, I've seen her be made very happy and cheery and girly.  AND THAT'S FINE!  Please understand I'm not trying to stop anyone from doing that, it's thier own interitation of 2P Belarus and they have every right to do so.  I just happen to think differently.  *personally it's my head cannon that 2P!Belarus does not have the -almost- cuteness 1P!Belarus has.  2P has no disire to marry 2P!Russia and stalks everyone, trying to scare them and break their bones then move on to a new target*

It's my head cannon that 2P are just different (perhaps surpressed parts) from the 1P's.  That because the 2P AU is darker and more cut throat that the 2Ps had to develop differently and becuase they live in an AU have some differences in thier brains, but are still kind of the same as thier 1P counter parts.

So here is my analysis of 2P~*Lots is heavilyHEAVIY influenced by once I saw her stuff I couldn't get it out of my head*

England:
2P acts all happy and kind, almost like a doting aunt or something, but is really crazy and tries to drug you.  1P is grouchy but still actually caring, so they are almost flipped, but 2P still has some gentleman in him while he's "nice" and is just outright creepy sometimes.  So he's almost bipolar, while 1P (while tsundere) is not.  They both hide some of their personallities, 1P tries(and fails) to hide the fact he cares, and 2P(also failing, but not as much as 1P) hides the fact he's crazy as they come.   It's also my head cannon that his happiness and bubbliness is half genuine and half tricking everyone.  He honestly enjoys some of the happy stuff but that isn't enough, which is why he has his crazy to fall back on.  I feel like he's super manipulative and has a need to have things go his way...or else.  He's a plotter and will use anyone in anyway to get what he wants.  Also the fact he's good at cooking is an interesting twist I love.  The whole thing where he is good at cooking but poisions/drugs his food and drinks, while 1P is just bad at cooking is something I just love, it really fits in with the different but similar.  They are different because one is prepared well and the other is prepared horribly, but in the end which would you rather eat?  

America:
While 1P constantly goes on about being a hero, 2P has no disire to do so.  2P is a gansta and he knows it.  He's super violent, easy to anger, and is a total jerk.  He uses his insane strength to beat people up and get what he wants.  Although, he's not a plotter, he has his sights set on what is happening now instead of in the future.  Because in all honesty he can probably force his way out of any situation if he gets in trouble.  He likes instant gratification, which is usually a result of his sadism.  Well he'll do a little plotting, but it has to have a quick pay off to keep him interested.  Instead of trying to save people like 1P, 2P likes to see them in pain.  Even though 1P and 2P sound like opposites now, they do have similarities, like being loud, they both need to be the center of attention, and but into other people's business because they know they are strong and they can.  While both are rude, 1P doesn't mean to be as offensive and in all honesty doesn't do it for the sole purpose of insulting people.  2P on the other hand likes to hurt people and is as rude as possible for the sake of being rude.  1P is naturally cheery and 2P gets pleasure from other people's pain, so both smile alot.

France:
2P is not as passonate as 1P.  Nor is he as flamboyant.  But he is overdramatic, in a melodramatic way, he broods and whines stoically and smokes alot.  Both love the beautiful thins in life but 2P doesn't show it as much.  It's my head cannon that while 1P is perverted, 2P is just vulgar.  I also think while 1P would make people feel extremely uncomfortable with his advances, he wouldn't want to rape someone because he doesn't find tears and pain beautiful.  2P doesn't give a sh*t.  He's gonna do what he wants and if you don't want to, too bad.  

China:
I don't have alot for China, (like less than France) but here.  1P always rags on western nations for being immature, 2P acts like a know it all.  He's arrogant and doesn't listen to anyone.  He also likes to lie to people to make them feel stupid or worthless so that they look to him for advice or for anything really.  Like 2P!England, he's a plotter. *Head cannon 2P!China wears his hair down*

Russia:
1P has an air of innocence around him, he's childishly cruel in the sense he really doesn't mean to be scary, he thinks he's not being cruel.  1P is scary, so that makes 2P terrifying.  2P is emotionless most of the time, the smile 1P has (even though that's scary too) is practically never present.  Smirks and grins are rare, but do appear when he is cracking bones and hearing screams.  2P loves cruelty and is a sadist to a tee, there is no child like hopes are affections in him, only with 1P.  2P doesn't really talk much, he sits quietly until he wants to hurt someone, then he'll get up and wack them with his pipe.  One can never know excatly when he'll strike.  2P never hides his cruelty, which isn't good or bad.  Either way you'd get the crap beaten out of you, if he's merciful enough to not kill you.  He still likes sunflowers though, he really likes them dyed red.   

Germany:
1P and 2P alike are stern and tough.  Like Russia's case, 2P does not have the kindness 1P has.  2P is cold hearted and violent for the sake of causing pain.  Death is something that 2P enjoys giving out and will not regret it at all.  Cold and cruel are the two best words to describe him.  He is very upfront most of the time, will only trick if he finds that is the easiest/only way.  

Italy:
2P likes to open his eyes more than 1P, it's easier to trick people when eye contact is made.  2P is suave and cunning.  He loves to trick people into believing everything is fine when they are quite obviously in danger.  Like 1P, 2P likes to hug people and doesn't really have personal space.  2P tries to soothe his vitcims before hurting/killing them.  He's more of an emotional sadist than a physical one, rather he enjoys making people's emotions go crazy and killing them more quickly than some of the other 2P's.  But that doesn't mean he won't enjoy spilling blood slowly every now and then, especally when it creates more emotional pain for the vitcim.   A trait 2P can't escape sharing from 1P is running away.  When 2P knows he's outmatched, he high tails it, but he is also able to pursue very well.  1P can only run away quickly, but 2P can sometimes use just as much speed pursuing someone as he can running away.  If he has the right motivation.  1P and 2P both have loving sides and can't eat enough pasta.  But good luck figuring out if 2P is really cares or is just setting you up to let you fall.  

Japan:  
1P and 2P both don't really like people touching them.  2P will react more violently than 1P when their personal space is invaded, giving a few cuts rather than just pushing them away.  Like 1P, 2P isn't very expressive.  2P is a cold machine, ready to cut down whoever needs to be cut down.  However, sometimes he does indulge in cracking a pleased smile while hurting his targets, both emotionally and physically.  Telling them whatever will make them unhappy, and then stabbing them with a katana.  So both 1P and 2P are mostly emotionless, and do not like to be touched. 2P wants to hurt people all the time, but does exercise some self disapline, by "just killing" and not making a scene out of things most of the time though.  

Edit:
Look who I forgot!  Totally by accident too, funny how these things happen huh?

Canada:
Like 1P, 2P isn't really ever the center of attention.  But while 1P simply sits back and accepts his invisibility, 2P uses that "power" to cause harm.  He sets up traps to hurt people and they never know what hit them.  He never bothers to learn anyone's name because they don't know his and Kuma(what'shisface) is a lot more vicious than his 1P counterpart(and bigger, he ain't no teddy bear).  Still the bear and owner don't know each others names like in 1P.  2P will also have outbreaks of rage and violence like how 1p almost sticks up for himself.  When 2P has one of his "episodes" he is a lot like 2P America, and people have a hard time telling them apart.  2P Canada is a "silent aggressive" kind of person, he hurts people but they never really figure out who hit them so he is able to hurt people a lot.  However 2P's stature is much more menacing than 1P's, so when people do see him they know to avoid him.  So he's still scary, but people manage to find a way to forget him/ not see him.  *I like the idea that 2P ties his hair up in a pony tail*

...so yeah, sorry about forgetting you Canadia   



Generally, 2P's are more selfish and more sadistic than the 1P's.  That's what I think, anyway~
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Comments: 123

CreativeSketchbook [2015-06-01 23:24:55 +0000 UTC]

Nice! Yeah, I'm not to into the typical fandom portrayals of the 2ps and some of the designs make me cringe a little, but your descriptions were pretty good and your Italy one! It was very well descriptive and is very similar to my thoughts!

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pumpkinnekobaa [2014-04-25 16:44:24 +0000 UTC]

I love it.

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LotusDragonof5000 [2013-12-15 15:44:40 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for making this, I quote from you whenever I have I discussion about 2ps with another Hetalian. I really needed to know about the 2ps, because I had zero clue about their personalities.

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PyroPen In reply to LotusDragonof5000 [2014-01-02 07:44:01 +0000 UTC]

You do?!  Wow thanks!  Im so glad you like them!

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refinedgluttony [2013-09-10 23:25:03 +0000 UTC]

All this makes sense! I love your headcanon, it's very original yet very close to what everyone thinks is their take.

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PyroPen In reply to refinedgluttony [2013-09-12 00:21:48 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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Helliatrix [2013-09-09 19:39:00 +0000 UTC]

This is sooo helpful ! As well as part 2 !

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PyroPen In reply to Helliatrix [2013-09-12 00:21:58 +0000 UTC]

Glad to hear that!

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FurFighterFaux [2013-08-15 19:10:54 +0000 UTC]

YOU. ARE. A. SAINT.
You wouldn't believe how much this helps omg I love you so much asdf *internet hug*

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PyroPen In reply to FurFighterFaux [2013-08-20 03:38:11 +0000 UTC]

blushu blushu


Aw gee, thanks.  Glad you like it!

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WillowScarCat [2013-08-08 16:04:28 +0000 UTC]

If you could, could u add 2p! Prussia? Im kinda curious about him.... *runs away before 2p! Italy gets me*

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PyroPen In reply to WillowScarCat [2013-08-08 18:12:09 +0000 UTC]

Psst, read this

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HetalianPunk13 [2013-07-28 19:24:53 +0000 UTC]

Thank god, something to help me figure 2Ptalia out, thank u

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PyroPen In reply to HetalianPunk13 [2013-08-07 06:02:23 +0000 UTC]

Haha no problem! 

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Sia-Kouro [2013-07-27 00:24:36 +0000 UTC]

I like this^-^

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PyroPen In reply to Sia-Kouro [2013-08-07 06:02:31 +0000 UTC]

Thanks~

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The-Awesome-fangirl [2013-07-25 16:06:06 +0000 UTC]

If i may ask, because i really do like how you think of all of them, how do you see 2p!america and 2p!russia acting towards one another?

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PyroPen In reply to The-Awesome-fangirl [2013-08-07 06:06:28 +0000 UTC]

Well since you asked so nicely~


I think that they never really got over the cold war.  Al will prod at Ivan with insults and digs as much as he possibly can and once Ivan is antagonized enough he'll give in and they would brawl it out.  They also constantly try to one up each other (again, stuck in cold war era) and have a pretty bad relationship.  However deep down they respect each other's strength and don't want OTHERS to beat them up, but at the same time wouldn't be too disturbed by it. 

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Kira-Jones [2013-07-19 17:21:00 +0000 UTC]

Uncle Iggy's cooking...or 2p Uncle Iggy's cooking...hm...
Well you would die either way but...I'd eat 2p Uncle's cooking. It'd probably be less painful and you may have a slightly better chance at surviving.

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PyroPen In reply to Kira-Jones [2013-08-07 06:06:49 +0000 UTC]

You think 2p is a better idea?  Haha ok.  

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Kira-Jones In reply to PyroPen [2013-08-07 06:25:00 +0000 UTC]

Well duh! Uncle Iggy's cooking you'd die from eating it 2p well yeah I think I'll take my chances plus it'd at least be a tasty death XD

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PyroPen In reply to Kira-Jones [2013-08-07 07:07:08 +0000 UTC]

That's one way of looking at it, haha

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Kira-Jones In reply to PyroPen [2013-09-17 21:00:53 +0000 UTC]

yeah
Iggy: MY COOKING ISN'T THAT HORRIBLE!!!
Me: (hugs him) yeah i know...XD

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SimpleHP [2013-07-09 14:29:58 +0000 UTC]

Why you forget about CANADA :<
I am a Canadian for pete sakes

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PyroPen In reply to SimpleHP [2013-08-07 06:07:38 +0000 UTC]

Sorry! Sorry!  Haha it must be the American in me.  

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SimpleHP In reply to PyroPen [2013-08-07 06:19:48 +0000 UTC]

Pfft... It's fine .-. I forgot about saying that oAo

*hugs* CANADA IS MORE INTERESTING IN MY OPINION XD

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PyroPen In reply to SimpleHP [2013-08-07 07:06:51 +0000 UTC]

Good! 

Yeah Canada's cool!

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Starflight707 [2013-07-08 19:04:11 +0000 UTC]

I think it's Kumajaro.... Not sure though, but thank you for the information ^^

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PyroPen In reply to Starflight707 [2013-08-07 06:08:17 +0000 UTC]

Welcome!

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Starflight707 In reply to PyroPen [2013-08-07 15:36:47 +0000 UTC]

^u^

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Ask-Hetalia-Russia [2013-07-08 18:23:22 +0000 UTC]

(( *Cries* Thank you so much! I've always wanted to try violent art, so I was looking into 2p, but no matter where I looked I couldn't find any good explanations... TTuTT Thank you!!! ))

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PyroPen In reply to Ask-Hetalia-Russia [2013-08-07 06:08:08 +0000 UTC]

Ohhh gee, thanks

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Soffe123 [2013-06-30 16:45:00 +0000 UTC]

Would you maybe put some other contry's here too? I'd like to know nordic five and sealand...

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PyroPen In reply to Soffe123 [2013-06-30 20:56:43 +0000 UTC]

hmmm, i'll think about them...not sure when those headcannons would come out though!

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Soffe123 In reply to PyroPen [2013-07-01 10:24:29 +0000 UTC]

thanks!

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JaxAugust [2013-06-23 07:04:33 +0000 UTC]

FINALLY!! I now know who the 2P's are like!! Thank you for this~

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PyroPen In reply to JaxAugust [2013-06-25 02:42:41 +0000 UTC]

No problem!

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JaxAugust In reply to PyroPen [2013-06-26 00:24:42 +0000 UTC]

I'm using this as a reference for my drawings~ Thanks again Pyro!

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PyroPen In reply to JaxAugust [2013-06-30 20:56:19 +0000 UTC]

Sweet, and its my pleasure

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OrigamiBlueAngel [2013-06-18 21:14:01 +0000 UTC]

These guys scare me!!!!
But they a fun to read about.
But still!!!!!

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PyroPen In reply to OrigamiBlueAngel [2013-06-25 02:42:48 +0000 UTC]

Damn straight!

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mentalitysCanvas [2013-06-17 12:49:42 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for this I was really looking for a decent personality insight on the 2ps

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PyroPen In reply to mentalitysCanvas [2013-06-25 02:43:33 +0000 UTC]

My pleasure!

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mentalitysCanvas In reply to PyroPen [2013-06-25 03:14:54 +0000 UTC]

^^

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Penguin598 [2013-06-12 02:58:04 +0000 UTC]

Just (finally!) found out what 2P is and wanted to find out the personalities to these peeps.
These are now my head cannons. Some of them anyway.
Thanks!

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PyroPen In reply to Penguin598 [2013-06-25 02:43:26 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, glad to spread the head cannons. And some is better than none~

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Penguin598 In reply to PyroPen [2013-06-25 08:48:24 +0000 UTC]

This is true.
And holy cheese and crackers I love Canada!
I love the idea that he puts his hair up in a ponytail. I also like to think that's he's a lot more muscular than his 1p counterpart. kinda like a lumberjack

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PyroPen In reply to Penguin598 [2013-06-30 20:55:50 +0000 UTC]

Yeah that's kinda what I think too, lumberjack haha

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Penguin598 In reply to PyroPen [2013-06-30 22:17:49 +0000 UTC]

Haha! Great minds think alike.

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AliciaParkersons [2013-06-02 14:09:14 +0000 UTC]

How could forget the badass Canadian?!?! NOOOO!!!

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