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QuantumBranching — The Enemy of my Enemy

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Description Hokay.

This takes place in a world where the Mongol hordes swept as far west as the Pyrennes, and managed to hold their empire together in later years, partly through the development of an "official religion" for the ruling classes blending their native shamanism with elements of Buddhism and Nestorian Christianity.

Largely withdrawing from western Europe in the late 1400s, the Mongol Empire remained for long The Evil Enemy of Christendom, replacing the Muslims, which have not have a good 800 years (the Mongol Civil War of the 16th century, in which the Blue Heaven faction smashed the Islamicizers, and its aftermath pretty much finished off Islam as the dominant faith in Persia and points north).

Britain, which like Scandinavia and Iberia remained largely undevastated (there was a 14th century invasion by the Rhine-Khanate, in which the Royal Court was forced to temporarily move to Ireland, but it didn't stick), has long sought to unify western Christianity into a lean, mean, Mongol-fighting machine, but has been hampered in this aim by Hispanya contesting their claim to leadership, and by the continuing post-Mongol occupation breakup of a unified Christianity (The Empire of England and Ireland follows a sort of national Catholicism - see OTL Anglicanism of the muscular variety - but there are currently three contending papacies in Europe, four if you count the former Mongol-approved Pope in Rome, hurriedly relocated some centuries ago to somewhere near OTL Warsaw, and then of course there are those crazy South French....)

The Anglo-Irish Empire is a constitutional monarchy nowadays, the capital having moved to the Americas roughly half a century ago in the face of economic and demographic realities, and is a democratic place by the standards of this TL - they've recently even given women the vote. The Mongol Empire is an elitist military autocracy with laws of terrifying harshness. On the other hand, it is also highly tolerant, the upper classes are always open to new talent, and the ruling classes police themselves quite ruthlessly - it may be a tyranny, but it's a generally lawful one. This has made it open to new ideas to the extent that it has largely kept up with the West Europeans in modernization and technology, much to Anglo-Irish irritation.

The long rivalry and mutual hostility between these Powers is however now being overshadowed by a new menace: the slave-holding theocratic tyranny of La Legua de Los Puros. Descended from Hispanyan colonists in South *America who revolted against the corrupt rule of the Hispanyan Papal/Secular "dual Imperium", the League practices a Puritanical and crusading form of Christianity which however does not prevent them from energetically pursuing profit and technological progress (they have duplicated the Mongol atomic bomb almost as fast as the Anglo-Irish). They are also deeply racist, taking literally the notion that black Africans are "sons of Ham" doomed to forever be slaves (Mongols are the Hordes of Gog and Magog, to be exterminated at the End of Days, which is presumed to be fast approaching). In South America, their rule over the non-free 50% of the population is brutal enough, but in tropical Africa, where they account for less than 10%, the system reached its apex of harshness: the punishments they impose for rebellion squick even the Mongols a little. [1]

If this were not bad enough, they are expanding vigorously against the small and backwards states of Africa, and now threaten Anglo-Irish territories and Mongol vassals: they have also contracted alliances with the Empire of the True Han (the Mongols managed to reconquer the Brightly Shining dynasty after its brief expulsion of Imperial forces south of the Yellow River, but the True Han - a ferociously xenophobic tyranny following the precepts of Neo-Legalism - managed to make their rebellion stick in the 1700s), and with the ethnic salad of pirates/Chinese/Malays/Japanese which is the opportunistic Empire of Kuncun. Attempts to reach out to fellow Christians to join them in an anti-Mongol crusade have been rebuffed, partly because Legua preachers can't help pointing out that as Horrible Heretics, they're target no. 2 for conversion or destruction.

Nauseating in their brutality, alarming in their religious fanaticism, and all too near to Imperial territory, the "Puristas" worry the Anglo-Irish a great deal: although less troubled by their brutality, the Mongols have no love for religious fanaticsm, and can see all too well that the Purista leadership have chosen them as a convenient bogeyman to unify their people behind their expansionary goals. So, in the summer of 2011, ancient enemies (plus representatives from the most immediately threatened, and incidentally the most advanced, of the Muslim powers) met in a city on the edge of the Steppe to begin discussions that would change the world...

Bruce

[1] Yes, South American Puritan Conquistador Draka. Sue me.
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Comments: 9

AkhillesY [2018-04-13 14:07:59 +0000 UTC]

Creative

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grisador [2016-02-19 21:57:42 +0000 UTC]

Awesome

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Deltax10 [2012-04-21 18:29:34 +0000 UTC]

question time: 1. how does that cathar state work?
2. what is included in Bloody Dawn's religon?
3. what is ethnic composition of anglo-irish?
4. when did japanese diaspora take place?

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QuantumBranching In reply to Deltax10 [2012-04-22 03:37:36 +0000 UTC]

1. No anti-Cathar crusades, what with northern france getting ravaged by Mongols more than once and later the British trying to assert territorial claims. The breakdown in Catholic authority after the Mongols took Rome and the general apocalytic sensibility of the era of Mongol invasions also helped their position.
2. Relgious synecticism - Shinto and Mexica Polytheism have joined into a pantheistic faith in which a multitude of Gods exist, the warrior is exalted, and self-sacrifice is extolled. (People _do_ kinda sacrifice themselves to the Gods, but in doing something Manly, not being butchered like a cow.)
3. More Irish than in our world: the British-Irish religious split never happened, and Irish peasants didn't have it any worse than ones in Yorkshire. There was no great potato-driven population boom, but no great collapse, either.
4. It started with Japan developing a navy in the early 1300s to defend the isles from Mongol incursions, and continued until about a century after the Mongol conquest of the isles, when the continuing drain of people led the Khan in 1752 to put an end to any emigration.

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Deltax10 In reply to QuantumBranching [2012-04-22 15:55:14 +0000 UTC]

you didn't really answer some of my questions, maybe I should try being more specific. How does being cathar affect society in South France?
The Mongol Invaions must have caused some kind of refugee crises, did any germans and poles etc. flee to Britain?
also, if Japan reached America in 18th century, then did the Europeans not discover it in 1492?

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QuantumBranching In reply to Deltax10 [2012-04-27 00:48:37 +0000 UTC]

Well, it means southern France is essentially a theocracy with an ruling class that elects its leaders from within itself, but which anyone can join by renouncing all the pleasures of the world and sex: like OTL Iran, there is a paralell parliamentary government of sorts with representatives from local nobility (the only kind that is left), towns and wealthy peasants, but is ultimately subordinate to the religious orders.

Among the elites, a lot of refugees: but your average Polish or German peasant wasn't going to make it to Britain on his her own penny, and once the initial massacring was over, the Mongols were often better overlords than the local feudal bosses had been. More of a large-scale immigration from border lands where Mongol authority was shakier and violent territorial changes frequent: quite a few ended populating British america.

I was talking about the bounds of an era: the Japanese discovered the Americas from the NW nearly a century before the Europeans did across the Atlantic in our world. The Europeans followed roughly on schedule, although in this world they had already heard rumors across Asia that the Japanese had conquered "great and rich isles" in the great Ocean.

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Crox300 [2011-07-27 19:51:15 +0000 UTC]

Omg, Mongols has got nukes in medieval ((

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QuantumBranching In reply to Crox300 [2011-07-28 21:28:43 +0000 UTC]

Hey, it is 2011...

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RangerGxi [2011-05-27 22:46:43 +0000 UTC]

Its possible.

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