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RainThatFallsAtNight In reply to Nara-Wolf [2013-06-06 16:53:53 +0000 UTC]

It definitely is one of the best!

And I'm glad Disney princesses have dreams and all but why do they usually consist of someone sweeping them off their feet? I always thought, even when I was younger and all for the romance in Disney I think she just wanted a friend. I loved her relationship with her father! And I agree the insane asylum scene scared me. It still does, actually.

Adam? I think I heard about that actually but I don't know. I don't know how else to describe how it began. I mean he locked her up, she had to give up her dreams, and she didn't even get to say goodbye to her father. I would probably be hating him, and how she acts towards him at first makes me think there was a strong dislike at least. And she had every right. I absolutely adore how Disney played tricks with your mind. They could have been together for months. Maybe even a year. It's clever! I mean the movie starts maybe at the beginning of Autumn or maybe even midsummer since we don't know how long her father had been riding before being attacked by wolves, and it ends at what could be Spring or Summer. It's more realistic... and that's between a Beast and a young woman. I agree with you 100% on all acounts. And nobody could possibly have done better without a weapon against wolves. If I had gone through all the reasons why she's one of the best it would have been really long! So I chose something that I really, really adore about her. Belles dreams didn't just involve a romance. I mean I think she could be a romantic since her favorite part of the book was when the love interests meet. Although her meeting with 'prince charming' didn't go over too well. But anyway. She's just deeper than most of the Disney princesses! I can't find one thing I don't like about her. She's a dreamer but at the same time she's realistic. She doesn't go into battle or anything like that but she was willing to run into a fight to save the Beast (Adam, or whatever) she's just a gorgeous character!

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Nara-Wolf In reply to RainThatFallsAtNight [2013-06-06 22:33:42 +0000 UTC]

Me too. Nothing wrong about wanting romance (hey, everyone wants to be loved) but seemed that this was their ONLY dream and to be honest, it pissed me off. Ariel and Snow White are the ones that most annoy me for several reasons... Ariel didn't spend not even an hour with Erik before deciding she wanted to be with him, she was more in love with the idea of a human male than the guy and to be honest, what she did to deserve her happy ending? Nothing. That whole deal with Ursula could've ended with her being the queen of the ocean and my guess is that many people/merfolk would either die or be slaves if she had won. Ariel didn't do anything except fuck up. At least in the original tale we see the Sea Maiden wanted to be human and have an immortal soul (it was very different). Snow White is a pain, I don't get how people find that forest scene scary, I find it just annoying as hell (the huntsman tells you to run away so the queen won't kill you... Then what you do? You run in the forest, screaming like crazy. First, the queen wasn't around chasing her, so why run? Second, keep yelling and the dangerous animals will probably find you -is like go around screaming in the Jurassic Park, might as well write "kill me and eat me" over you- and again, she didn't know a THING about the prince and yet, she was madly in love with him. At least the others spent, if not days (Mulan and Belle) at least some hours with their princes. (The whole "three days" Ariel got with Erik don't count, she loved him before, what if she had found out he was a jerk?).

Yeah, she is an amazing character. Specially because the whole village thought she was different and weird, but she just kept being who she was and is not easy to do so when you're lonely as she was. That Insane Asylum was so scary... Even as child, though I didn't know very well about asylums of that time (people chained in the walls and what not) we can sense that is a horrible place and that they will be apart. I guess that is one of those "real life fears" (of being separated of your family and not because of death, but something worse than death). Plus that guy who took care of the asylum was just creepy as hell.

I'm not sure, I don't even know if it is official or just how the fans call him, but whatever. He is only of the one love interests that actually has a personality. Plus, both he and Belle have flaws (which makes them more real to me).

Well, dislike is to say the least. Not only she was in that awful situation (heck, I'd be scared out of my skin) but he was a jerk to her.
I guess they were together for some months at least. And I like to see how slowly they begin to feel for each other, at first we can see is friendship and is slowly turning into love.
My guess is that it was the beginning of Autumn and they were together for the rest of it and great part of the winter (when Belle comes home, there is still snow in the village).

As far I love wolves with all my heart (well, I love all animals, is just that wolves are my favorite -guess they have been since I was small and some friends started to compare me with them and some -well, the few I have- call me Ookami or Wolf -hence the nickname I use) let's be honest: They are very DANGEROUS animals, they are not dogs, they are wolves. I know, is not always that they attack humans (actually, I read they would rather avoid humans) but in winter is hard to find food, and suddenly they see a human and a horse? That's a full meal and you know they are going to devour them. So, there is NO WAY someone could have done better (and she had the guts to try to hit them, many people would be too scared to do anything besides running). And she helped the Beast after he saved her. When she turns to her horse is like she is "I can go back home, I can be free again... But he did save me, I can't leave him like this". How many people would've done that? I'm sorry, but truth to be told, people tend to be selfish, so most would just be "well, he is an animal, he'll be fine. And if he dies, who cares?". But no, she went back to that castle (prison in her view) and helped him.

Since she loved to read, I guess is perfectly normal to love those sort of scenes. When well writen, they are the most cool. And when she refuses to marry Gaston and sings about her dreams we see that her biggest dream is just to find somewhere where she belongs and someone who understands her. That doesn't mean "I want to find a prince", no, she just doesn't want to be lonely. See that village: No offense, but people had closed minds, didn't have imagination, how could she be happy there? When we like things (be it a book or whatever) we want to share it with someone, but no one there cared for that and thought that she and her father were weird and crazy. Those things hurt. So, being caged (and this is the most cool, the life in the village is a true cage for someone like her and when she gets "caged" in the Beast's castle is actually when she is more free) in that damned village, no wonder she dreamt about the books she read and about finding her place in life.

Yeah, she is great. And I guess you can say she does fight. Not like going to war like Mulan (and heck, she is amazing too), but fighting against the ideas and steryotypes of the village (the sort of thinking that goes "Women should just be quiet, marry, have kids and be there to make their husbands happy, they shouldn't read or think or anything like that") and she is not afraid to speak her mind and show that doesn't fit in this sort of thing and won't even try. She shows she likes to read and thing and doesn't care about what others think. Is a little like Esmeralda, I guess.

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Occitanian-Beast In reply to Nara-Wolf [2013-06-07 06:40:23 +0000 UTC]

That's a comment!

Wolf attack in BatB is the most realistic ever seen in a "kid's movie". when Jurassic Jark was released in France in 1994, I understood that the schematic attack of velociraptors was the same thing like the Disney classic!

Only Okiura's "Jin-Roh" depicted this in a more crude & cruel way.

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Nara-Wolf In reply to Occitanian-Beast [2013-06-21 07:45:49 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, sometimes I just get too excited and talk (huh... write?) too much...

Agree and they really looked scary, especially for kids.
Yes, it was. I actually liked the velociraptors better than the T-Rex...

Need to watch Jin-Roh.

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RainThatFallsAtNight In reply to C-blaze21 [2013-06-06 03:16:19 +0000 UTC]

Mine too! It's one of the best if not the best in my opinion!

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