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Peterwillems [2016-07-02 09:43:23 +0000 UTC]
great description, so useful with experience
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katjuscha-kae [2012-04-02 17:58:20 +0000 UTC]
Interesting, and thanks for the detailed tips!
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artefugaz [2011-11-16 22:31:10 +0000 UTC]
MUY BUENOS TUS TRABAJOS
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x-1986-x [2009-08-09 08:33:20 +0000 UTC]
This is amazingly helpful, thank you!
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ramonpp In reply to x-1986-x [2009-10-04 19:46:55 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad I can help
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smakaka [2009-07-30 15:52:44 +0000 UTC]
I totally agree with what you said about the edges of the mouth, it very very crucial in achieving the likeness of whoever the subject is.
thanks for the tutorial!
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ramonpp In reply to smakaka [2009-07-30 17:24:25 +0000 UTC]
Its all about measures and placing things right
Your welcome
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Juarezandanocamina [2009-04-26 19:20:41 +0000 UTC]
pero el proceso es impresionante!! y lo explicas de sobremanera... muy bien y muchas gracias maitre RamΓ³n, he descubierto que esto es todo un mundo y me vere envuelto en el
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ramonpp In reply to Juarezandanocamina [2009-04-27 21:19:02 +0000 UTC]
Pues por ahΓ dicen que uno no es el que escoge... si no que Γ©l te escoge a tΓ
Camaroooooooon!!
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killerfeeling [2009-02-27 11:49:37 +0000 UTC]
this is soooo super helpful!!! gawd thank you!!! i need to do a self portrait in oil and this really made it easier.^^
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ramonpp In reply to killerfeeling [2009-04-02 22:25:59 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad you found this helpful
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nnicc [2008-04-13 01:19:04 +0000 UTC]
thank you for share your knoledge.
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ramonpp In reply to nnicc [2008-04-13 04:54:34 +0000 UTC]
You are welcome I hope its helpful for someone
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nnicc In reply to ramonpp [2008-04-14 18:27:34 +0000 UTC]
I'm an absolute beginner with oil, but I'm sure it will be useful for me.
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michaelandrewlaw [2008-01-02 10:33:25 +0000 UTC]
very nice , just like u took my favorite masters caravaggio , Titian and Peter Ruben
's method , roll them together and use acrylic with it , very nice with the final result.
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ramonpp In reply to michaelandrewlaw [2008-01-03 20:19:35 +0000 UTC]
They rule!!! I'm a sick fan of those you mencioned. Specially in the case of Titian, I found the example of the use of layers or as they call them glazes, its just madness!!
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stupidDOOR [2007-12-30 16:26:28 +0000 UTC]
i dont know much about renessaince technics of painting...but i've hurd of this one...teciano used it...light and shadow in greentones, then more superficial camades with the "true" colors.
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ramonpp In reply to stupidDOOR [2007-12-31 01:31:53 +0000 UTC]
Yes thats the so called verdaccio, its a venetian technique. Tiziano used a lot of glazes or layers, he said that about 30 or 40 (maybe he was exagerating!!) were necessary to achieve a proper fleshtone. I got tired of writing in english the day I posted the tutorial but I used about 25 glazes on these. A better effect is made by placing a transparent varnish between layers of semitransparent colors. The ilusion of "true" color can be obtained by using complementary contrast in fleshtones, that is why the use of greenish underpainting, cause later you paint with reddish tones.
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stupidDOOR In reply to ramonpp [2007-12-31 01:50:07 +0000 UTC]
interesting...you know...i know so little about formalized techinc of painting...i discover thing by myself, by experience. and its nice too see how many things i do by intuicion have been formalized senturys ago.
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ramonpp In reply to stupidDOOR [2007-12-31 03:14:55 +0000 UTC]
Knowing what has been done and how it has been done will enrich your intuition even more!! There's no better master than the past, I beleive.
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stupidDOOR [2007-12-30 16:20:13 +0000 UTC]
this is very interesting. they are so full of life in the prosses...they are twisted but that feels like their flesh is transformed by the fire inside them...and in the final one its like they have a fupreficial skin hiding the convulsing spirit.
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ramonpp In reply to stupidDOOR [2007-12-31 01:36:20 +0000 UTC]
The fire inside... a very close friend of mine has said that to my painting before. As if my figures are burning inside... Kinda creeps me out but i guess its true, bit macabre but cool... I hope.
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stupidDOOR In reply to ramonpp [2007-12-31 01:43:49 +0000 UTC]
burn inside means life, means passion, not evil, not perverted, just passion.
I've noticed many people relate the violence of passion with evil and sin. i dont understan very well why. And i guess that is why my art is so often missundertood.
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ramonpp In reply to stupidDOOR [2007-12-31 02:49:42 +0000 UTC]
I've seen your work and I get the point. You remind me of Otto Dix watercolours, and Jules Pascin too. Guess that side of passion sometimes scares people away. There's this missconception that painting is made for doing beautifull images only. Egon Schielle for example, he paints that fire from within the bodies, as if the light comes from the inside. And most of his works are disturbing for the common viewer, I include myself here. It was only when I started to draw from live models that I became aware of his virtuosity and his skills as craftsman. Now I think he is much more better than his master Gustav Klimt who made beautifull paintings but somehow superficial. He (Gustav) is right now at world market in the top ten next to Picasso and Van Gogh so... I guess our taste is rare
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pyjamaninja [2007-12-27 20:00:44 +0000 UTC]
thanks this made me a little bit less horible at painting
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ramonpp In reply to pyjamaninja [2007-12-31 01:37:33 +0000 UTC]
You are welcome. If you do something with this procedure in mind please post it and let me see it!!
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pyjamaninja In reply to ramonpp [2008-01-03 19:46:59 +0000 UTC]
i will! I was just wondering which color u used in the last picture, it looks salmon/orange
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ramonpp In reply to pyjamaninja [2008-01-03 20:16:16 +0000 UTC]
Its the result of various semitransparent layers of ochre and pink (made with oxid red or indian red, bit of cadmium yellow and a bit of white) having the greenish backround helps a lot. For a famous example of verdaccio look in here [link]
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noyork In reply to ramonpp [2008-01-03 21:04:01 +0000 UTC]
i see, thanks : ) last question! it looks like there is a diffrence in there with the ochre did u mix it with black to make some places 'darker ochre' ?
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ramonpp In reply to noyork [2008-01-04 00:22:17 +0000 UTC]
Yup!
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noyork In reply to ramonpp [2008-01-04 15:05:29 +0000 UTC]
thanks! good to still see people helping others out with step by steps without charging 50$ for it
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ramonpp In reply to noyork [2008-01-04 17:47:11 +0000 UTC]
You are welcome, the only thing I ask for is to show me how you do your own stuff with this technique please.
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rdch [2007-12-21 23:11:35 +0000 UTC]
fascinating
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ramonpp In reply to rdch [2007-12-22 00:17:25 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! Hope it will be useful for someone
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Deino [2007-12-21 05:00:08 +0000 UTC]
Wow... donde aprendiste a pintar?
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ramonpp In reply to Deino [2010-12-03 08:51:36 +0000 UTC]
(Hablando con el Deino del 2007)
Y... deberΓas conocerlo tengo el presentimiento de que se caerΓan muy bien
je....
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Deino In reply to ramonpp [2010-12-03 09:40:32 +0000 UTC]
Deino del 2007 aun se tardaria otro aΓ±o en conocer al maestro Gilberto (en su exposicion de bellas artes), sin embargo solo faltaban uns 5-6 meses para que se animara a conocer el taller de sinaloa, a los maestros Ramon, Tomas, y demas fauna pictorica.
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ramonpp In reply to Deino [2018-07-10 01:14:31 +0000 UTC]
Y ahora en 2018 yo sΓ³lo digo que Wooohhh!!
Ya acaba ese rinoceronte weyyyy
Jajajaja!
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