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a blue pencil lol
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is it a magic pencil?
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So basically if he's not going to take advantage of a helpless girl he's a faggot. Good message, 10/10 would report again
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Yeah because a message from a robber whoβs clearly not morally upstanding is TOTALLY meant to be taken seriously, next youβll tell me when the devil does something bad in media that means they support that action. Seriously though itβs fucking obvious a message from a robber isnβt meant to be seen as right, the alternate pic βreal endingβ pretty much spells that out for you.
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Welcome back to 4 years ago, how may I take your order?
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www.deviantart.com/art/Snoop-Sβ¦
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Oh how FUNNY. I can't believe how FUNNY that new one is. It's so FUNNY that I can't stop FUNNYing.
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www.deviantart.com/art/Snoop-Sβ¦
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Though I think you might I have come off as a bit harsh I agree with your displeasure. (I have already expressed it myself)
I don't believe this is grounds for reporting but we should let it being known that this type of image shouldn't be condoned.
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If you have a problem with it, ignore it. Simple as that.
It's obvious the artist doesn't think this way, and if you can't see it. Guess what? Doesn't think that way.
It's a joke, and it's the personality of the character. Not every character is going to be likable.
I'm glad you're sensible enough to know you shouldn't report things.
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This is more of a large scale cultural problem within the bondage fetish community that I felt compelled to call out. If you don't like it, you can ignore my arguments but the way women are becoming objectified in works is becoming more and more evident. Dispute the who "lol is joke and how the characters are designed" it still is a bit distasteful for the robber to condone the other character to take advantage of her and insult his sexuality for doing so.
It's misogyny at its finest.
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Some women treat women as objects, you can see a rather large community of males being treated as objects also. It's not misogyny. Some women have the urge to be treated as such, not all. I'm saying there are those that have fantasies about being taken advantage of. It isn't up to you to understand a fetish, because it simply isn't none of your, or even MY business for that matter.
It CAN cause a problem but there's a line where one SHOULD know the difference of fantasy and reality. Just like (Used this example in another comment just now lol, it's hard to type things twice without sounding repetitive.) in gaming or media, violent games/movies = violent people? No. The inability to distinguish fact and fiction is what makes killer, rapists, criminals, or just those that do wrong in general. Those that have this fetish, the SANE ones in fact do have a moral compass and know rape is wrong. There is NO question in that for those that have COMMON SENSE.
Blaming this type of media for those that just don't get it isn't right, because it isn't fair to the artist or the community that have committed no crimes.
I understand where you're coming from and I actually agree, I just feel attacking this specific post isn't helping anything. Wrong time wrong place, basically. Addressing the problems of the community on one piece of work isn't right and is actually quite RUDE to the artist him or herself (I know this one is a guy but I mean in general) It would be different if they were supporting rape outright but they aren't. Or at all really, unless you really want to dig deep enough to find some technicality or reason for it. Which honestly I assumed you were trying to do, I apologize for the quick accusation and it's inaccuracy.
Maybe make a journal about it if you've a large following, post it on a discussion board. Something to address the issue publicly but without causing negative attention to an artist that isn't deserving of it.
(I'm so sorry for typing a paragraph my fingers are dead.)
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He's upset that I opposed his fap material deity. The argument "ignore it if you don't like it" isn't suitable in his case because it doesn't change the fact that there's something wrong here.
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Yeah, and i'm sure you relate to that problem aesthetic pretty well.
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Ruh roh, another fetishist goes at me. However will I defend myself?
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Seriously, reporting?
On what grounds?
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If you don't like my comment, you're gay. See anything wrong with that previous sentence?
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If you have a problem with it, ignore it. Simple as that.
It's obvious the artist doesn't think this way, and if you can't see it. Guess what? Doesn't think that way.
It's a joke, and it's the personality of the character. Not every character is going to be likable.
You can't report something because you don't agree with it. That's VERY childish.
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So if I don't like something, I should ignore the problem exists? I don't like world hunger, but I don't ignore the problem because I'm a big boy with big boy opinions. If I don't like something, I bring it up so that others might see how negatively this affects my feelings. If no one said anything about their disapproval with problems, we'd be mindless dupes that followed some people blindly without rationalizing the situation logically, like religion or, in this case, your fetish being fueled by some creep that thinks women are just eye candy and to be used at any given instance.
But hey, I can't mock your religion. That's rude.
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Having opinions and stating them like a total prick amongst a community that does work like this and obviously NONE of them are some kind of assholes that go around kidnapping females or raping or anything like that. Nobody here thinks rape is a good thing either, some people just like using/making/creating stuff that goes with their select fetish as an outlet.
What honestly do you do for world hunger then? Please give me examples.
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I beg to differ about the rape thing. I've seen comments in other pieces that have been along the lines of "RAPE TIME" or "I'D LOVE TO BE THERE FOR THAT, I'D DO EVERYTHING TO HER" and such. There's a difference between enjoying a fetish together and enjoying a fetish at the expense of others. If my criticism is too real for you, then perhaps you need to see how people are in the real world instead of cushy lovey deviantFart.
If you HAVE to know about the world hunger thing, I've done food drives and community work as examples. Not to toot my own horn; You asked about it, so I'm just giving you my impromptu resume of WHAT A SAINT I AM TO DA WURLD. My charity has nothing to do with my disapproval of gay bashing or rape culture.
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Alright, just checking to see if you're a hypocrite or not. (Of course my opinion/acceptance means nothing, lul)
Very nice job with the food drives though! (Not being sarcastic, sounded REALLY smart-assed when I typed it)
I've just encountered quite a few people that have used that line or something similar before and have done absolutely NOTHING themselves.
It's not too real, I know that people irl would jump at the chance to rape somebody in a scenario like this or very similar. I don't think this is gay bashing either though. It's more or less a running gag with it as there are other pictures. I'll guess there's a romantic relationship between the girl and the guy that left her like that (not the robber) and it's just one of those ironic running gag things that the robber says it, complimenting her looks if it were a foreplay he'd so take advantage of it etc etc. (since something along those lines was mentioned in the pic and previous pictures). To me the "what are you gay" thing doesn't mean anything at all, if he were gay he wouldn't be interested obviously, simple as that. It's not an insult imo.
People that WOULD rape are just terrible people, it isn't the bdsm or fetish or whatever that makes them perverted freaks it's the fact they don't know reality from fantasy. Like how violent games makes killers. It doesn't, the ability to tell fact from fiction and mental states do.
If this were a different situation, and maybe the artist comment said something in a serious tone like "seriously what a fucking faggot" it would be an issue. Otherwise it's just a drawing (very nicely done one at that) with a little harmless joke put in for fun. There's no need to attack it or bring down the light hearted mood. At least say something POSITIVE before doing that you know?
I know people that have fantasies of being "raped" or taken advantage of. That would enjoy a roleplay where the other was acting like an intruder or kidnapper or whatever else. They know the difference and I'm sure there's some out there that would get off to the real thing or maybe possibly HAVE. Different things for different people.
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Let's say you're with a girl, and she wants to go further with you but you think it's going too fast and don't feel comfortable with it, so you tell her "NOPE" and go on your way. Then, someone else comes in and takes advantage of her and says, "Wow, that guy must be gay if he doesn't want to fuck you right now." Jokes?
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You are really taking things too seriously with that.
Yeah, it's still a joke. The situational context here is they've probably done that kind of stuff before, yet he's just not in the mood.
But. In the situation you described. The guy's opinion is just that, an opinion. She's probably just as unaffected by it as the girl in this is, choosing to ignore the opinion about a relationship from a third party.
If she accepts his advances she's a whore honestly. There's no fault of mine or the other guy. She's the one that has to say yes.
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I can't wait to see the next picture this guy draws in which another person calls the dude gay. because let's face it, the best way to get a laugh is to imply that someone likes men. Also calling the situational girl a "whore" doesn't solve that issue either, though maybe it's right, or maybe she's drunk and doesn't really have the option to begin with. Situations.
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Well the drunkenness is another situation ENTIRELY, one I'll gladly talk about but this submission page is NOT the place to do it.
In short, my opinion on it is that if you get drunk you're putting yourself in that situation and I don't believe that it's rape if you agree while intoxicated by your own choice. I don't believe it's right by the one taking advantage but the one being taken advantage of has no one to blame but themselves. That's all I'll say about that HERE.
Having low enough morals to cheat or have sex with another just because you want it ( In the case of not drunk, fully aware of what you're doing ) definitely shows the girl has VERY low morals and if that happens then it's a blessing to me I've been cheated on, because while it does hurt, it shows she isn't worth my time and not somebody I want to associate with. An eye-opener of sorts.
There have been other ways this artist has put in a joke, without the accusation of sexuality. This joke isn't making fun of gays, it's implying "What's wrong with you for not wanting to flirt/have sex/whatever with me, are you gay?" NOT "You don't want to ______ what's wrong are you gay?"
(That was shittily worded, basically not saying there's anything wrong with being homosexual but questioning the fact is the person homosexual)
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Just saying "wrong" implies that it's a shit thing to be. There's really no way to reword it to the point where it doesn't sound like "what's wrong with this person for not fondling you." I just don't see why "gay" has to be interjected in there. Don't get me wrong, I love comedy that involves everyone, but the context of this is so specific that it's painful to see. Let's see what happens if we replace "gay" with some other words, like
Nigger, spic, wop, kraut, honky, mic, frog, sand monkey, dyke, fag, homo, queer
But hey, gay's a FUNNY word.
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Honestly I'm a lesbian and I'm not offended by this.. Like I call myself and others a faggot on the norm...
Like I get why this is an issue but dude you're being super sensitive here, and as much as you think you're helping by making a fuss.. You really AREN'T right now....
It's dragged on way too long and too much of a shit-fit over it. Unless you yourself are gay please drop it, on this submission at least. It's unnecessary and bothersome.
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HEY GUYS, I'M GAY AND I CALL MY FRIENDS GAY SO DON'T FEEL BAD
You're right, it makes it all better now knowing that you in particular call your friends faggots. Kind of like how white people call each other honky and black peo- woops.
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More blacks say nigger than whites in some places.
Nice way to pull up bullshit because I'm not as thin skinned as others.
I might like pussy but I'm definitely not one.
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YOU DON'T SAY. My goodness, black people using the n word, this is major news to me. We should alert the media.
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Wow that's a rude response to her. She's saying she isn't so thin-skinned as most people, especially people that shouldn't be as offended as those who SHOULD have the problem with it.
Are you really nit-picking THAT?
I mean it obviously just poked a hole in your whole thing about how this is subjecting every woman and gay.. Because as a gay woman she actually laughed. Not everybody has to find the same shit funny, you're literally going to
Are you actually getting upset over this? Like literally mad? Dude you're over reacting incredibly at this point. Not that I'm saying what you've stated is terribly wrong, it's a good thing to be aware of situations and misogyny etc. But it's another to blow shit out of proportion for no reason.
She's right though, this is NOT the place to have a full blown discussion. So let's both just kindly drop it.
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I don't like the excuse "I do it, so it should be okay for everyone to do it." That's not going to solve a problem, because it's just one person accepting the fact that derogatory words are just words. It's a different thing to use a word out of context and use a word based on opinion, and I'm still a firm believer that this dude has a problem with gay people.
I don't drop what isn't hot.
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Well that's literally YOUR issue for being an over-sensitive white knight with some kind of complex that people can't joke and literally have to be a certain way to not offend or hurt anybody's feelings. Everybody has to think the same way or they're wrong.
I don't know what else to say since you choose to be belligerent until I agree with your over-reaction to a VERY simple subject. Whining like a child because not everybody sees things your way is meant for Tumblr, not DA.
Honestly, if he did have a problem with gays that would be his business, not yours. He's got a right to not like whoever he pleases (although it's painfully OBVIOUS he has no issue with them) He hasn't said a message that gay is wrong unless you want to be a complete prick about it and take some kind of 5th meaning to it (Because that's how far you'd have to go just to find an issue)
You're here to start shit, stir shit up. Your issue has been stated, numerous times. You're still trying to crucify this person for humor other than yours and you're dragging out every possible way this could be seen to make him out to be a homophobe or a sexist. There's no "deeper meaning" stop trying to twist the fucking words and really just piss off.
I'm done here. SorryNotSorry. Tried being all civil with it. I said I was dropping it before because I, unlike some people, realize how rude it is to create large comment sections arguing with literally almost EVERYBODY in the comment section about such a fucking stupid issue that shouldn't and isn't a problem.
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Not really white knighting a fake character, just liked rustling jimmies, which I did. :3
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. . .
GG m8.
I hope you really didn't report tho. I can't stand reporting, on here or anywhere else tbh.
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I did good reading all the comments. So was that a troll ? I didn't understood half of it.
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Samesies.
Troll, basically.
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Except it'd actually be...
Black, mexican, white, etc.
The word you're thinking is offensive is faggot.
Gay can be used in a derogatory way but it isn't here.
At this point YOU are the one drawing the conclusion that it implies being gay is wrong. Not the author and apparently not a lot of people either.
The focus isn't on the sexuality of the person, it's on the fact she's not being pleased. It's on the fact she's now stuck and the person robbing her is taunting as well.
You don't HAVE to laugh at it, the joke is there, and the joke is funny to others. Comedy like a LOT of other things is subjective, if you aren't laughing nobody else should?
That's honestly almost as bad as being shamed for being a certain way. Nobody has to be so straight laced and "open minded" as to attack light subjects.
Simply put, you're reading far too much into this. More than you should on this specific occasion.
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What simple humor it takes to appease the masses. I should start an art page where all I draw are anatomically incorrect women in bondage and make cheap jokes, then maybe I'LL be the one with 2 million visits!
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You do realize there are different styles right? This is by no means realism and honestly he can draw a LOT better than me and maybe you. Not everything's a joke on the profile either, have you looked at the entire gallery? Stop making cheap shots, honestly.
Also if you're talking about the bust size, there are many instances where he draws small busts.
If anything I'd call him out on heads for anatomy but again. NOT REALISM.
I feel you're honestly making hate that's uncalled for against the artist and that this is getting rather uncivilized of a discussion. Until everybody sees your way they're just wrong, sexist, rapist, homophobic assholes.
Like I said before I don't think hating homosexuals or anything is right, and that jokes can go too far. But this isn't one of those cases.
The artist has the right to submit what they please as there's no pornographic nudity and NO homophobic/sexist propaganda or anything of the sort. It's a light hearted _Fetish_ drawing.
You know what? He has the right to post fetish or peril work. Reporting something that YOU don't like doesn't make it right. It's actually really childish and rude, causing the artist a lot more hassle than needed.
There's also DiD by the way, damsel-in-distress. Plays off the old and current cartoons of there being some kind of peril, girls in a cage, tied to a log going to a buzz-saw. Etc. Peril art, I know somebody that likes to roleplay peril quite often. Would she ever really want to be in a near death experience? No.
In short, this won't spawn a hate rally, this won't have some people get raped or go out and kidnap women. This won't do anything but give both sexes pleasure (in whatever form) and have the artist practice skills while drawing something they like.
This doesn't support your "rape culture" and doesn't help your cause to be so belligerent about the subject.
There is a LOT WORSE on deviantart, trust me.
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Wow, I have to say that this has went really far.
Obviously, were talking about a fetish right there. So i don't think that people having this fetish will tie up and rape a girl. And if they does, that's not the fetish anymore that is involve, but most likely mental problems.
Plus, the robber is the one saying that, and as far as I know, a robber is not a example to follow.
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Doesn't matter if the robber is to blame for the artist's sexual slip. Some guy posted links previous to this one that had gay-shaming as well. Having a fetish is one thing, which I seriously don't care about at all, but when you start including shit about ho the person must be gay if he doesn't take advantage of someone then I start having problems with it. I've heard of literally every kind of fetish, and I honestly don't care what people like as long as it doesn't involve shitting on sexual preference.
Some people have a rape fetish. Nudge nudge, artist.
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You have a point here.
But I don't think that those arts represents the current opinion of the artist. Maybe he's doing some kind of dark humor. I assume that because it's really rare to meet someone with a fetish being homophobic. I presume a lot of people having bondage or S&M fetish hides it because it's shameful, which is not that different that homosexuality, so peoples will understand better an homosexual person and how they work.
Of course, the prooves you show does really dispute my theory.
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Ever see some drawings of dudes in bondage and people comment on the artist being a fag? It happens quite a bit, and it's a delicious double standard. Being ashamed of one's sexual preferences is pathetic, as is mocking another person's.
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