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RedAmerican1945 — The Sheep in Wolfs clothes
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The irony being it's socialists that seem to be wolves inwardly www.google.co.uk/search?sxsrf=…
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Lol, so 1 socialist think tank has a logo like that and that somehow applies to all of us?
Nice meme. Totally exposing the ebil Gommunists xd.
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Hey, the only one applying things here is you.
You just didn't know your own kinds nature well enough to know they like to apply this very reference to themselves.
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By describing fascists such as league of the south as what they are?
I personally let my own ideology out for all to see, I dont disguise it under the guise of "Preserving history" or some ethos of "Southern Culture" to hide what is just fascist rhetoric. Also, this poster was made for a non socialist group, it's a big tent group, so piss off and cry somewhere else.
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By applying names and descriptions to people as what you want to believe they are.
Or maybe that's what you tell yourself about these ideologies because your own ideology has a tradition of being intolerant to the identitarianism connected to those ideologies. For instance, there are specific things essentially required in doctrine for geniune fascism that those movements do not cling to, such as the want for an autocratic dictatorship. But since you don't care about this and only want to slap a personal impression on them you ignore this crucial detail.
Also, yes it is, it openly identifies as such, not a big tent group like you want to pretend, go whine another day.
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But they are. There far right, theocratic white nationalists, you don't need to be flying a swastika to denote yourself as a nazi.
And where dose American Iron Front say it's socialist organization?
Oh right nowhere you fucking smoothbrain.
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They're*
Theocracy requires wanting to give a priesthood absolute authority, which again isn't what they're going after in their ideology. You are literally proving you know nothing about them and are hoping no one else does in order to question how you want to make them out to be. I'm loving it.
And that's something you're correct about, true iron fronters are against all extremism left AND right en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Fro… and given the fact you support totalitarian communism
I'd say you being an iron fronter is another thing you and your retarded ilk are lying about.
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Ok Grammar nazi.
They believe the independent souther state should be ran and based on Judeo Christian values. The white christian saudi arabia. Also you've shown no evidence to the contrary, so funny you accuse me of the same.
Thats a meme about the man who killed mussolini, a communist partisan. Are you unironically gonna say thats a bad thing? If so, then go ahead loser. And i've been critical of Marxist Leninist states. So you're wrong again.
You again have shown no evidence that American Iron Front is a socialist group. It's because you fucking can't brain worm boi.
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There's a difference between wanting laws and institutions to be based on the biblical law and giving a religious body supreme power. And Saudi Arabia isn't a theocracy, it's a theo-monarchy www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10… which isn't the singular supreme sort of power exercised in by a religious class described in a theocracy. And playing an appeal to ignorance? Really? Well according to their own testimony leagueofthesouth.com/ the southern leagues express ideology is one of secessionist independent republicanism based upon christian-tradionalist values. Republicanism is by definition anathema to anysort of monarchy ergo why you comparing them to saudi arabia is still funnier.
So...you're now claiming, you're in no way biased to communism, is that it? You'd be more convincing to people without posters like this
or this
of you drooling over a totalitarian leninist state ideology en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungaria…
Correction. I've shown you that TRUE iron fronters are at heart social DEMOCRATS, as opposed to socialism as they are to your fascist bogeyman you're self-righteously projecting onto innocent secessionist movements.
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In then end your semantical view of that matter means nothing, they are as fascist as you'd want. The christian part was only one view of it you have gone to overinflated as you have no argument to the contrary.
Ummmmm no, never said that, said that i'm critical of Marxist Leninism and the ML states (USSR etc). Can you read? Or are you just purposefully trying to be dumb. As for the pieces you posted this also further proves your fucking dumb.
-SRA is a left wing gun owners group, which is comprised of a variety of leftists, ML's, Anarchists, Syndicalists etc.
-And that PLA flag was made for an Alt History mod for HOI4 XD Really dropped the ball there idiot, I used the Hungarian symbol as a base to remix into an alt history thing. Nice try.
Times change and names and ideas change. American Iron Front Supports no party nor supports any candidate. Nor do we subscribe to any ideology other than that of antifascism and antiauthoritarianism. You again show no proof we are a socialist group, you just ramble like an alzheimer's patient. And no white nationalist group is peaceful, there very idea of a white enthostate requires either mass deportation or mass killing of unwanted races. The South will never rise again, down with the Traitors, up with the Stars.
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Wrong. There's no semantics here, only facts you don't want to face. You either want an explicitly religious body running a state (theocracy) or you don't, and no they're not since to be a fascist requires wanting a dictator, you have no argument to refute this.
Oh please, I only pointed those out to show you how piss poor this claim of yours is. You obviously get moist for bolshevist totalitarianism, it's just another nail in the coffin of what little integrity you have to try and pretend otherwise here. Also you realize you just said you're critical of ML states then immediately said you made a poster for them right? I think you're too fucking retarded to know which end to speak outta.
So if you're rejecting what true iron fronters supported, which indeed wasn't socialist but democratic, then by contrast you're being against this ideology means you're also antidemocratic. I can believe that given how much criminal, anti democratic activity antifa indulge in, they're the kind of extremists that true iron fronters would've kicked the teeth of in. So far they're only unpeaceful according to your demented antagonism towards them, you've offered no proof they have mass deportation let alone genocide in their ideology. And don't try and make it up now...you can check for yourself leagueofthesouth.com/corebelie… Red stays dead, forward freedom and capitalism.
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They again want there country ran on Judeo Christian values with a white ethnostate. They are fascists. Fascism is not as simple as your trying to claim it to be. www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgwS_F… This video goes over fascism as well and what consider to be fascist.
And failed because your choices were a poster for broad pro gun left wing group, and a piece for an alt history game, the faction of which weren't even Communists. And no, the SRA isn't an ML organization. You again are just making shit up.
Stop waxing "Philosophical" on shit you you're over inflating and going nuts over. For a quote un quote skeptic you've made no fucking points that are cogent and once again, don't give any evidence showing AIF is a socialist org.
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And again, you have no proof of this beyond your ignorant rambling. No where do they claim in their core beliefs they want a white ethnostate. And again, the essential requirement for being a 'fascist' is wanting some kind of dictatorshit and/or believing in dictatorshit for it's own sake. Fascism isn't what you want to make it out to be. Otherwise any and all self-serving identity groups, however vulnerable, could be conflated with fascists.
And your guy here literally refuses to define fascism clearly and demands antifa be given the freedom to be able to treat fascism vaguely because we actually thinks that a universal, abstract definition couldn't be flexibly applied which is false because the whole function of an abstract, clear definition is that it can be localized and flexible.
But what's more, he actually agrees with me at 10:10. What he fails to detail is that fascism isn't typically rightwing and rather occurs at both extremes of the spectrum, ergo why the term 'red fascism' exists www.jstor.org/stable/1852269?s… not to mention, he brushes over the fact that it is specifically the presence of dictatorship that sets fascism apart from other forms of totalitarian authoritarianism. And the fact you gave me this and didn't realize it tells me you don't even scrutinize your own precious antifa intel.
And guess what? This League of the South? It ain't fascist.
Except it wasn't a factual point I was making that could fail simply because you want to make excuses for those posters. You wanna claim things like you're not pro-communist? Sure, I cannot deny you can say that, if my point was to deny any reality to you identifying yourself that way then indeed I have failed. Except my real point is, whether or not you say you're against ML you're still going about it in a laughable shallow, contradictory and crappy way.
No. And you know why? Because you have no right to claim something as yours when you have no respect for what truly went into it. You don't get to label yourself something like an Iron frontier when members of the SDP in sweden probably deserve that title more than you. And I don't even need to show evidence AIF is socialist to prove it isn't IF since you've just claimed it's not socially democratic in ideology.
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leagueofthesouth.com/wp-conten… If you're willing to march alongside nazis and fascist, join an umbrela group with outright Nazis, and want a White Ethno State, you are a Fascist.
Once again you change the goal post and ramble, you posting those posters proves nothing, no shit i'm a communist, I've made shit tons of art for socialist and communist stuff, but that again dose not mean AIF is socialist. I'm not a high up in it nor it's founder / creator. I'm one of many who are in the group.
Thing change dumbass, kinda like how Liberals were once revolutionary and are now completely useless. We've taken up the Name for our beliefs in Patriotic Antifascism. Also, the original Iron Fronts from Germany, not Sweden you absolute fucking smooth brain. Even when Trying to make a point you fucking show how shallow you're actually knowledge is. Our Principles are Anti Fascist, Authoritarian, and Pro Democracy. And if you wanna label that as socialist, then go ahead bootlicker. Seems like your years of hanging out reactionary dumbasses has taken a toll on whatever cognitive ability you use to have.
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Oh yeah? Then how d'you explain AIF and antifa supposedly being against authoritarianism while marching alongside them? imgur.com/a/pCF12zE Unless you've been lying this whole time about antifa and communism then you better accept marching alongside someone doesn't mean you identify with them. And guess what? Your league of the south? Doesn't want an ethnostate like you're claiming.
Wrong. I never changed the goalpost. It was only you changing it when claiming I was trying to refute you claiming not to be a communist. Which given the fact you claim "i've been critical of Marxist Leninist states" you now doing a 180 is a new level of retarded even for you at this point. And since you identify which a supposedly anti-authoritarian movement while being pro-authoritarianism in your communist fetishizing and are hellbent on excusing the AIF of any camaraderie with your dirty closet authoritarian boner you've even more gotta excuse the southern league for having neo-nazis lumped together with them unwillingly.
Wrong asswipe, things remain as they are and get stolen sometimes. Which is what you're doing now. That name doesn't belong to anykind of vile extremism of the left or the right and you have 0 legitimate claim over it. And that's why I used the Swedish SDP rhetorically shit for brains. Insofar that they subscribe to an actual ideology, which you claimed they don't. But thankfully it seems in reality you're just so ignorant of your own political background that you didn't know these things. So ok, lets suppose that AIF isn't socialist then and just pro-democracy, asskisser. Then you've gotta realize a movement that opposed communism allowing you into it's ranks means you have no excuses left to try and identify the league as fascist given their non-fascistic core beliefs.
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That picture has no members of AIF. Thats just Andy No's old twitter backdrop... before he replaced it with a neo nazis cartoon. The point of AIF is to bring people from around the spectrum into the Antifascist movement. And yes they do.
I never said I was never a communist, you're just outright lying lol. Being a communist and being critical of Marxism Leninism is not contradictory. Nor did I do a 180 on it, you've shown no proof of the matter.
Hmmm, a rational skeptic who doesn't believe in the evolution of terms and ideas? Just another thing you've flushed down the toilet. Go suck your banned friends dick some more kid, it be more worth wild then screaming at your computer lol.
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Those are antifascists genius, if you weren't so resoundingly ignorant you'd recognise their flag alongside the flags of authoritarian ML...And that's not even a point. You used a flag off the website I showed you the core beliefs on, so what? And since you recognise the AIF draw in a spectrum without truly allying with the details of parts of that spectrum...no, no they don't want an ethnostate.
And you tried accusing me of moving the goal posts lol. I can't wait to hear how you're going to justify disagreeing with the very bedrock of communism while claiming you're a part of it...Much like your claims to being an Iron Fronter who opposed your communist extremism I bet it'll just be more weak excuses like a personal communism that's changed with the times that in reality has nothing to do with real communism even.
Change that to, a sceptical critic who believes terms can be stolen for utterly different agenda's and how very disgusting, deceptive and wrong it is. And when even you are acknowledging the totalitarianism of ML and communism there's precious little for you to go upon to suggest the true Iron front would ever tolerate it. Hell son, the only thing you've done for the AIF so far is explain how they can somehow ally with things they aren't a part of for ulterior purposes. You wanna stop now? Or you wanna continue raging at your keyboard in the basement?
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Um yeah, no shit. But there not members of American Iron Front. This is a non sequitur.
>Very bedrock of communism.... Marxism-Leninism was developed decades after Marx had written his last book.... are you actually this dumb? And yes, I appose athorarian left groups like the Red Guards who are fucking brainlets that go around intimidating minorities and attacking other left wing groups.
I'm simply amazed at how angry you are over all this, it's kinda funny but at the same time I worry you might hurt yourself lol. Also, we don't tolerate Authoritarian socialists, are members dont fly the hammer and sickle or associate with tankie esq groups.
You wanna stop now? Or you wanna continue raging at your keyboard in the basement? The Projecting is hard here lol. i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/ne…
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"The point of AIF is to bring people from around the spectrum into the Antifascist movement"
Yes actually, yes they are. Stop doing 180's.
Are you actually this dumb and desperate you want to try and move the goal posts so far you're going split hairs that communism was distorted by the first person to apply it into statecraft? I hope you realize all you've really got is appeals to stone and ignorance as far as this route goes. I'm not exactly expecting much from you at this point anyway.
Being a shallow nihilist that makes sense. If you're a communist then you'll probably at least believe in disrespect towards private property such as a name of a movement and what it really stands for. Just don't try and act like you deserve to be treated as a true iron fronter. You're a commie buddy boo boo, and Iron Front opposes commies. You acting like not being an ML somehow excuses you from this is A material denial at it's finest.
The Projecting is hard here lol. It certainly is...
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And thats bad for some reason? Lol.
You're the one claiming Marxism Leninism, an ideology formed decades after marx's death was apart of the bedrock of communist though.
We allow in socialists and communist in the libertarian scale. Guess the idea of Libertarian Left doesn't exist in your mind. And again, Iron Front has no opinions on private / public property as thats not the point of the group. You're just making up shit.
Pfff you cant even pretend to meme right.
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When you do u turns claiming they're not AIF members after claiming they are? Yeah, sorta makes you look like a retarded liar y'know? Lol.
And you're the one not refuting it. It happening after Marx finally kicked the bucket doesn't disprove it wasn't communism. The burden of proof is on you I'm afraid. Good luck with that.
I really couldn't care less what little reasons you have for making out how your precious AIF is a supposed big tent. My problem is you thinking you have some sort of claim to a term that actually requires something for it to be legit. And I wasn't refering to the IF that time I was refering to you and communism as a reason as to why you think you can honestly claim to be an Iron Frontier when that requires having a different ideology to yours. You're lying in circles now and it's getting kinda pathetic.
You know you're a real boss when you take memes as seriously as you
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Not by any stretch.
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