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Show: PokemonEpisode: 709
Year: 2011/2012
Writer(s): Junki Takegami (Screenplay)
Director(s): Ken'ichi Nishida (Assisstant), Mizuho Tajima (Animation)
This episode, made me basically QUIT the Pokemon anime when I first heard about it. I already didn't really watch after seeing Ash's 3rd gym battle, but THIS!? I'm now confident that this is the worst gym battle the series ever WILL HAVE. I stopped watching the Pokemon anime for YEARS after hearing about this and didn't pick it back up untill Origins and hearing of Charizard's return (which I'll get to) no episode has ever made me want to quit a show I've been following for years, NOT ONE OF THEM!
Because Ash is brain damaged in Best Wishes he thinks using Palpitoad AND ONLY Palpitoad against Elesa will net him a sure fire victory. He only knows about Zebstrika from Bianca getting SWEEPED by it and believes that because Palpitoad is a Ground Pokemon he will beat it easily.
: WROOOOOOONG!!!!!!
Truth be told he just BARELY beats Zebstrika by the skin of his ass through dumbass luck! When even Iris knows that your strategy is a terrible one, things will go south very quickly. It's a shame too, because Ash really wanted to not always rely on Pikachu and his starters for every win so this could've been a nice change of pace. But no, "the status quo is God" a vengeful god that wants to cover the world in a sea flaming hot human feces!
So because Ash is a dumbass Palpitoad gets beat by Elesa'a Emolga. What? Did he think that her Pokemon ONLY had Electric attacks? That's a ROOKIE MISTAKE! It's even more of a rookie mistake to rely on one Pokemon thinking it will win you the battle with no problems. This is NOT the same Ash Ketchum whose been through 4 regions and fought against countless opponents coming in 4th at the Sinnoh league and beating an unbeatable DARKRAI! This isn't even that Novice Ash from back when Pikachu hated his guts and he had to drag him by a clothesline! This Ash, is BRAINDEAD! He only had the foresight to bring JUST Palpitoad to the Gym with him and he has to run back to the Pokemon Center to get something else. If I were Elesa I would have DISQUALIFIED HIM then and there! Either you use Pikachu or you forfeit the battle! You can't just RUN OUT in the middle of a match to get more Pokemon! ESPECIALLY AGAINST A GYM LEADER! You had to take a roller coaster to even get to her inner-sanctum!
So Ash decided to ONLY come back with Snivy! Even though Emolga is also a FLYING TYPE that knows Aerial Ace and Acrobatics! He doesn't even remember that Snivy is a girl before Emolga's Attract doesn't work! Personally I always refer to my Pokemon by their genders because using the term "it" is dehumanizing and doesn't sound right. How the fuck does this kid even remember to breathe? Anywho, Snivy gets beaten like, super quickly with no effort at all because Emolga has the advantage.
So because Pikachu won't shut the fuck up and Ash didn't bring ANY OTHER Pokemon with him he's forced to rely on Pikachu to beat Elesa's Emolga and Tynamo, (seriously, in the anime she has a Tynamo) even though he specifically said he didn't WANT to use Pikachu in this battle. The episode LIED TO US! It's bad enough when we take a preview or trailer out of context past our expectations, but when the episode itself flat-out tricks you into believing something that's going way too far! You think Pikachu is riled up by Ash's stupidity? I'm about to blow a motherfucking blood vessel!
In the Takeshi Shudo Era Ash had learned not to simply rely on type advantages or a single Pokemon to win battles, but the bonds and strengths of all his Pokemon; and it actually works there and comes off as natural. In Advanced Generation and DP Ash Was able to throw his opponents for a loop by coming up with unorthodox strategies and tricks, like Counter Shield, Thunder Armor and even eating a SHADOW PUNCH! Here Ash learns he SHOULD NEVER STRATEGIZE and just do the same shit in every battle! That TOTALLY isn't an insult to every single trainer and fan old and new! If In the Shadow of Zekrom is what truly hit the reset button for the Pokemon anime, than this RAPED IT! No joke, no exaggeration, this episode bent it over and fucked the reset button to death!
Sorry folks, but this just pisses me off so damn much! The Annoying Orange wasn't this hard to get through! Yes Ash you really are useless without Pokemon, EVERYONE IN THIS WORLD IS USELESS WITHOUT POKEMON! I can maybe buy Emolga being a match for Pikachu being its a ripoff, but why is Tynamo Elesa's strongest Pokemon? It only knows TACKLE! If it was maybe Eelectross it would make more sense, but why TYNAMO!? It's almost as useless as Magikarp or a baby Pokemon! And because Pikachu's power is totally random, this Tynamo actually puts up a fight with JUST TACKLE! I never though there would be a more pathetic battle than the Metapod Harden Match from Challenge of the Samurai!
Ash and Pikachu aren't shining bright, they're fizzling out like a dying Charmander's tail! Pikachu losing to a Surskit made more sense in XY because there was actual strategy involved! Here, Tynamo is more overpowered than Gardenia's Turtwig! By the way in this series most battles are won with a single hit or someone being put through the fucking wall! So why didn't Pikachu LOSE after being put through the FUCKING WALL like Zebstrika and Emolga!? There's no way in hell Tynamo is faster than Pikachu, and a Gym Leader just spamming Tackle from one of the weakest Pokemon ever and WINNING is one of the most pathetic displays I've ever seen in the anime.
This is the absolute worst come from behind victory I've ever seen Ash pull off. Even though he wins, if I were Elesa I wouldn't give him the badge because he didn't EARN IT! He didn't use the bonds of his Pokemon and that friendship garbage to win, he used a worthless strategy without thinking! What this episode is telling me is: FUCK STRATEGY! Just stick to status quo and you'll win because the plot says so beyond any and all forms of logic! This feels more like a parody deconstruction of Pokemon than an actual episode to me, like something Robot Chicken would do with less vulgarity and sex. At least THEN it would be funny! Between Ash's growing stupidity and Elesa being a smug c**t I couldn't enjoy this episode from second one. Ash Ketchum, I hope you get robbed and beaten on the street by Team Rocket and stripped of everything you've ever achieved! Your identity, Pokemon, trophies, EVERYTHING!
Cringe-Inducing Audio: 5
Cringe-Inducng Visuals: 2
Lackluster Writing: 10
Annoyance: 10
Disturbing Content: 0
Unecessary Cruelty: 5
Rancid Morality: 4
Low Production Values: 3
Unfortunate Implications: 6
Character Derailment: 10
Final Score: 55/100
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What's more is that as much as Ash was a legit rookie in the Indigo Season and even made a similar error in trying out Krabby in his first League match (albeit getting lucky), he still had Pikachu and Squirtle ready to use.
But even if one could argue that it wasn't out of character of him to only bring one Pokémon for combat:
1. Yeah the ref should have disqualified him for even interrupting the match to exit the Gym.
2. Considering how in the Hoenn Season that Norman couldn't have an official gym match with him until he had at least two more Pokémon, you could argue that Ash actually broke a rule in only having one in his roster for a 3 on 3 match.
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We he could've easily got download on his knees and ZUCCed Professor Oak for his older Pokemon but... that defeats the purpose of his leaving them behind.
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Thank god that Sun/Moon didn't make him a shitty battler again.
This really was as awful as I remember.
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I personally found Elesa's Tyanmo hilarious, but that's LITERALLY the only thing I like about this episode. I cannot believe they actually did this. They couldn't have made Ash look more like a fool if they dressed him up in a jester outfit and made him dance!
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It's a Funny episode,I Liked The part where tynamo is her secret weapon
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TBH I,I don't mind it,I sure as hell ain't the best trainer,for fucks sake It took me weeks to clear some gyms,and don't get me started on catching legendaries,to see someone like Ash,well get mad,get over it,and don't give UP,the reason those gyms took so long is because I frequently gave up,But ash just pushes on,that;s why I respect him
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"Dazzling" the Nimbasa Gym? THAT'S the title? (starts laughing like a maniac) More like BORING the Nimbasa Gym! (continues laughing)
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What boils my blood is: the writers of Pokemon Anime never bothered to makes people in Pokemon Anime anywhere better than useless(at least from something other than Pokemon/Plot Armor)
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atleast elese is still as hot as ever ^^(shes officialy my poke waifu)
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If you haven't watched much, XY does fix a lot of the damage B/W did and made Ash competent again.
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Hurm...I never saw this episode and I normally like it when Pikachu gets beaten up...But just reading about this episode pisses me off.
I thought Brock and Misty's Sisters were being too generous with Ash but THIS IS RIDICULOUS! Like...What sport in the world would ever allow the bullshit Ash pulls here? Did they at least play this off as a comedy, or did they just really put no thought into this episode? It seems like they could have saved themselves some time by just having Ash COINCIDENTALLY carrying Snivy even though he planned to just spam Palpitoad; could have saved themselves the effort of animating Ash running around and devoted a bit more time to the battles.
I've always hated how this show favored the small, unevolved Pokemon over the imposing, fully-evolved Pokemon and sadly, it's no surprise here that badass Zebstrika loses to a tiny 1st Form Pokemon, that a useless Tynamo is as strong as it is and that Pikachu can survive getting thrown through a wall despite 2 other Pokemon failing to do so. It always surprises me how much this show hates Evolution considering the games REVOLVE AROUND Evolution (Unless your name is Pikachu).
And then, there's Tackle Tynamo...Are you SURE this episode wasn't a parody or something? I mean...I've just...There's never...This isn't weird. This isn't bizarre. This isn't even bull shit! This is COMPLETELY UNFATHOMABLE! Where does "Gym Leader Uses Tackle" even come from!? Not even Season 1 pulled shit like this, and that season treated Pokemon attacks more like "I don't care of Body Slam only does 30 damage. If a 1000 lb Snorlax uses Body Slam, you're gonna die."
I was hoping the supermodel gym leader battle would be more interesting but if this is what came out of Best Wishes...I can see why people hate it. On the plus side, "But no, 'the status quo is God' a vengeful god that wants to cover the world in a sea flaming hot human feces!" is a line I've never heard before and will cheer me up for years to come.
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It's ironic, Gen V is probably the best written gen out there in the games. But from what I hear from others, the show turned baaad. I still think that Ash should have won the league in Sinnoh, and passed the series on to a Hilbert expy instead, since it seems that Gen V was a turning point for the franchise of sorts. And I understand the appeal of David vs. Goliath, but taken too far it just gets nonsensical. I understand the logic behind "I don't care of Body Slam only does 30 damage. If a 1000 lb Snorlax uses Body Slam, you're gonna die." though. I mean, it makes sense, and I'm sure there's more than one webcomic making fun of this in the games.
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YES FINALLY SOMEONE WHO NOTICES THE GAMES GREATNESS >>
i swear everyone i know who tals about the best wishes saga never mentions that the gen 5 games are excellent
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I know, right? It's almost like the anime KNEW that Gen V was the one that focused the most on story and decided to intentionally make its own story the worst. I mean, it's the only explanation I can think of.
Agreed 1000%. Kanto-Sinnoh are all in "Japan," so it would have rounded out Ash's career nicely to have him finally win the League at the last region and have that serve as a finale. Unova, being in a totally new continent and having several departures from the first 4 Gens, would have been the ideal (and perhaps only) time to start off with a new protagonist with a new mascot Pokemon. They could have recaptured the awe of being a new trainer without having to degrade any pre-existing characters and could have done some bold things with the story, since it would have to stick to the Team Rocket formula or anything else from the previous seasons. They could have made the anime like other Japanese series, where every season is about a new character in a new story. That way, nobody would ever have to suffer fatigue from constantly losing leagues or releasing their Pokemon and trainers and their Pokemon could make bolder, more ambitious strides in their stories including (Heaven forbid) evolving.
I do have to agree with the anime on how it portrays some attacks, though. It's hard to imagine why a Raichu would be resistant to something like Iron Tail when it's just made of flesh and fur; a Rhydon's Hammer Arm shouldn't be considered "Not Very Effective" when its opponent is a 20 lb Pidgeotto; even things like Pikachu springboarding between Draco Meteors makes sense, but are impossible for the games to portray. That said, I feel like the anime is a little TOO FREE with itself sometimes, namely the David vs Goliath matches.
I like a good underdog any day, but it just becomes insulting when a 5 lb Pikachu can level a 1000 lb Aggron with a single tackle when the Aggron had been chucking it across the room and crushing it under its foot all day. Not EVERY little guy vs big guy match is ridiculous, but it HAS gotten to the point that the real Goliaths are the little Pokemon and big Pokemon are almost always guaranteed to lose. I can understand why writers don't want to be handcuffed to the games' rules and like thinking outside the box, but it'd be nice if the heroes had some more big Pokemon if for nothing else than variety.
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Wow, I didn't expect to get this much feedback.
I know, it sucks. X( I haven't been watching the anime recently, though I watched the first few episodes of X and Y. It was OK, though it seemed like it was going to be as formulaic as usual, with the added gimmick of Citron (forgot his English name...) pulling some -inator 2000 out of nowhere every episode and having it blow up in his face every time. I can see that getting old pretty quickly.
Ugh, I know! They missed the perfect opportunity. The writers really wrote themselves into a corner with making Ash the protagonist for eternity. It makes the supposedly idealistic anime look rather cynical and bleak. It's cliche yet not at the same time. You don't see a show that deviates so much from it's source often but this isn't in a good way. Like, the evil teams are barely part of the story. But when you said "since it would have to stick to the Team Rocket formula or anything else from the previous seasons", you meant not, right? IMO, a reboot was definitely in order. The games have been reaching for older demographics and recent years, and has been maturing overall, with the protagonists showing that; Hilbert, Hilda, Nate, Rosa, Calem and Serena look significantly older than those in the previous four gens, looking more like teenagers or borderline teens than preteens. Heck, the latter two look like 16. Pokemon has the potential to be as good as any other Shonen anime, and I want to see it formatted like other shonen anime; you know, like the type they have on Shonen Jump, exploring some darker themes without glossing them over and yet having pretty good action scenes and character development. Even the action scenes are kind of cliche and formulaic in Pokemon. Sure, there's PokeSpe, but it's nowhere near as big as the official show. In fact, Black and White would have made an awesome plot for a shonen anime, and even PokeSpe kind of messed up when it came to it by botching some of the ambiguity and making N a huge creep. I mean, he was a bit of a creep originally due to his lack of social awareness, but sheesh! It's weird, the Pokemon anime kind of looks like a show for American kids instead of Japanese ones; for pete's sake, the kids here watch Detective Conan and ONE PIECE. I heard that the anime was losing viewship, and I guess for good reason. Maybe they've moved on to the superior Yokai Watch, which even my dad likes. I wouldn't call it amazing, but it still has a shiny, fresh charm to it. I would have loved to see a show that followed Black and White's plot, it would have been amazing. Maybe make Hilbert lose the league and go to Kalos, making him win another five gens later, or make him win and go to a Calem expy next since it makes no sense for him to go to flipping France in the first place, unfortunately the world would never know. I have no idea why Mr. Enter said this was his favorite Video Game cartoon, in my opinion Kirby Right Back at Ya! (despite the English theme song, which I actually think is OK.) and as polarizing as it is, Sonic X (the Japanese original more so than the butchered dub) were much, much better in terms of actual writing. At least they knew where to flipping END, had some semblance of character depth in them and at least some loyalty and basis to their games. For Kirby the final boss of a game was actually the final boss, and Sonic had the Chaos and ARK... Um, arc recreated faithfully, despite I believe being released a few years after the Sonic Adventure series.
Yeah, there's many comics on the subject; I recall one in particular with a Gyarados hyper beaming a Pidgey and it simply fainting. Or tackling a ghost: not effective, biting a ghost: super effective! Well, it is good that the anime incorporates strategy like that, and it makes one wish that Pokemon was a more interactive RPG like something along the lines of Xenoblade or something. Still, there should be some logic. Kids like cool, awesome-looking, evolved monsters, yet nope, we can't give them that. Yeah, I do like unevolved forms over their adult forms often, and I hate to see them change, but I recognize that to be viable in-game they have to reach their true potential. Even Yellow from PokeSpe realized this. Actually, that's what evolution is; a Pokemon reaching it's true potential. It grows thanks to the sweat and tears it went through with his/her trainer, to levels he/she would have never been able to achieve without. I was under the impression that unevolved Pokemon would be able to go up against bigger ones if at a high enough level thanks to it, without knowing that something called stat growths exsted. Sure, when I make a Pokemon team, there might be a token cute one, but that's because they usually can't evolve, like my version of Calem's Dedenne Nibbles. And he's probably going to have to work extremely hard to catch up with his other teammates (a Greninja, Talonflame, Gogoat, Charizard and Lucario), if he doesn't get sidelined in favor of Aurora the Amaura and Shaggy the Furfrou, though I hope that won't be the case.
Yeah, that just gets ridiculous. It's extremely cliche at this point. You can kinda tell whether something is game-based or anime-based if it lists the "best/strongest Pokemon" as the small ones instead of objectively the strongest ones. Sure, they let them evolve occasionally, mostly the second-stage ones, but if a third-stage Pokemon (usually a starter; e.g. Charizard, Blaziken, Sceptile, and I believe Ash has a Greninja; though Butterfree was of course an exception, as well as I think Pidgeyotto... And both got released... Not to mention they were from the early days when the show was better written. And I'm not even a 90s kid.) does somehow make it into the cast it sticks out very clearly as the "token evolved one". I was shocked when I was reminded how short a starter's second form is, since they often stay in that form in the show if they evolve at all.
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I heard that in the original Japanese script that he chose Snivy because Snivy didn't battle as much as the others recently. Even then, that doesn't change the fact that Ash never had second thoughts of having Snivy battle a Flying-type...
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Don't forget that Ash also had one Pokémon on reserve that did have a Type advantage on Emolga: Roggenrola.
And an interesting fact: Tynamo is actually the fastest member of her family. Even then, Pikachu's still faster.
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Ah, yes, THIS battle. Ash was a giant idiot (bringing only 1 pokemon? He's always been good at making things up as he goes along) and Elesa's exaggerated supermodel dialogue was just damn annoying (her and Brawly are the ones who didn't survive the trip to the show).
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Honestly I kinda laughed at your reaction here. lol But all jokes aside I have to agree this episode was beyond repairs and all around shows Ash at his worst. I mean people complain at Misty for harping on him, but really when Ash is this stupid how is anybody not going to get frustrated at him? And his status quo is very annoying. Ash is worse here than he was in Hoenn. And I fucking despised Ash in Hoenn.
Ash in Best Wishes Anime is a moron, while Ash in Advanced Generation is a ego-stroking jerk. Seriously Ash's ego was at its worse in Hoenn. His fight with Brawly and the episode where he fights Drake from the elite four is proof of that. He claims to not know Emolga is part flying, despite his Palpatoed getting KO'd by a flying type move. The proceeds to expand his stupidity even further by repeating what he said before despite right after being hit with a move that gave him hints on what to counter.
This is frustrating. Ash's Kanto battles still rank as being the worst though. It's also why Charizard probably never listened to him back then. I also recommend doing an atrocity against his win on Roxanne from Hoenn. He won by having Pikachu shock Geodude up close.
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Ah, Ash managed to do the same to Brock's Geodude back in their little rematch. It was a sign of not learning from mistakes. Plus, I always found it rather either amusing or confusing that they said electric moves didn't work on Rock-type Pokemon specifically when they can work just fine on Aerodactyl, Nosepass, and Aggron. I guess it's because they neglected to say that they're part ground-type.
Also, remember when Pikachu tried zapping some Kabutops and it did nothing and they just shrugged it off?
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That last part is interesting, at the consideration that Kabutops is part-Water.
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Tell me about it. I mean, why did they say that rock-types were immune to electric moves in general? Did they neglect the ground-type? Was that dub only or also in the Japanese version?
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I'm not sure. I never saw the Japanese version of Pokemon, except for Froakie's backstory before it came to the US.
And I think it might be because Ground and Rock is one of the most common pairings among other Pokemon, like Bug/Flying, Bug/Poison, and Water/Ice.
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I guess that makes sense. And the only rock-type Pokemon back then without ground-type was Aerodactyl, if I recall correctly.
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Actually, there's also the Kabuto Line and the Omanyte Line, as those were Water/Rock.
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I guess I wasn't exactly awake yet.
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*I give you a Chesto Berry*
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*wakes up* Okay, thank you. That's much better.
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You're welcome. ^-^
I know how hard it is to wake up, both body-wise and reality-wise.
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And it took me awhile for me to wake up from the true reality called experiencing "The Flames of a Red-Hot Reunion"
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Is that another bad one?
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I realized, upon watching Charizard's return in Black & White, it was a total cop-out. If he came back during the Unova League, I would've understood. But there was nothing for Charizard to do after the N arc! Heck, he had nothing to do DURING the N arc!
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Ouch. Also, what's up with the dub still coming up with new titles for the episodes instead of just sticking with the original Japanese translation? Doesn't that seem rather...lazy?
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I think it's a bit difficult, since creativity issues might be overrun and they don't wanna try and spoil anything, even if they do by mistake.
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But it just feels a little unnecessary by this point. I mean, what if One Piece, despite being now under the hands of Funimation, was still doing that? I'm just saying, it doesn't need to be done anymore.
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Well, I did come up with my own OC for the anime. Daniella the Breeder.
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Does she try to teach Pokemon moves they can only learn from being eggs and bred with certain Pokemon and is she trying to get as many perfect IVs as possible?
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Well, she comes from New Bark Town, Johto. She moved to Kalos after family conflict got out of hand. Daniella doesn't rely on IVs (nor to I) and she has caught several Pokemon. In battle, she focuses on different strategies and move combinations. However, she can teach different moves to Pokemon of their trainer's. Her main Pokemon are Azurill and Bayleef (nicknamed Hermega). And she has a softspot for Nando...And so do I.
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