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Description Show: Disney Cheapquels
Episode: N/A
Year: 2006

Writer(s): Rich Burns, Roger S. H. Schulman
Driector(s): Jim Kammerud

Why is it that midquels are a bad idea? That answer is actually pretty obvious really: a midquel or interquel rarely, if ever, adds anything to the original source it's taking place within; a good deal of the time what we see won't actually matter in the end because we know what the end result of the original is anyways. Unless they can add something that we never would've guessed like witnessing a secret that was hinted at or seeing something from a different perspective that can positively change aspects of the original. The Beauty and the Beast midquels are just plain stupid and boring; I don't honestly give a shit what Belle and the Beast were doing all those months because we see how it went for ourselves in the original movie! Plus, they bring up a lot of unfortunate implications that weren't present in the original movie.

 

The ONLY Disney midquel I'd ever qualify as a good movie was Bambi II, because we don't actually see much of Bambi's adopted father but for a minute in the actual film and we can see firsthand how Bambi grew up. It also helps Patrick Stewart kicks major ass as his daddy. The only other midquel I can see working on a story driven level are the Dragon Ball Z movies Battle of Gods and Resurrection F, along with their retellings in Dragon Ball Super. Those not only add to the original anime and manga giving us details before Uub was born explaining Goku's training during those 10 years, but THEY ACTUALLY MANAGE TO KEEP THE TONE OF THE ORIGINAL!

 

The Fox and the Hound was a very dark, somber and bittersweet movie about dealing with life changes, letting go and trying to deal with how society sees you and learning that sometimes you cannot completely fight the roles you were born into. Good thing there's absolutely none of that in the midquel, which is before Amos Slade takes Copper with him for months of hunting, turning him into a fox killer. And Todd is actually supportive of Copper doing this training! In the original movie, he had no idea what that would entail until he saw the fox skin shed; here, he seems to realize right away what Copper will do and is cool with it! WHY!? 

 

Amos Slade and Widow Tweed have been derailed from a conflicting pair of old folks into a flirtatious shipping pair. Yes, it did show they were getting along better in the original movie as she nursed Amos back to health somewhat, but that was near the END! And Amos was still as crotchety as ever! Speaking of Amos, he actually seems very mean in this midquel, using Chief as a training dummy for Copper to chase and basically yelling at Copper, having no faith in his abilities even though he's a puppy. In the original movie, he loved Copper and gave him positive reinforcement throughout the movie; he also treasured Chief and was very, very upset when he nearly died. Speaking of Copper, he's an idiot here: he forgot how to track animals when he KNEW how to do it in the original film! His stupidity led to Todd almost getting killed! By the by, that chase scene in the beginning is a mish-mash of the original movie scenes of Todd wrecking the barn and Amos chasing him down; SO LAZY!

 

The comedy of this movie is poor at best honestly. The original movie barely had any slapstick whatsoever; most of that came from Dinky the finch and Boomer the woodpecker trying to get the caterpillar. It worked because they were comic relief characters! By the by, they, along with Big Mama the owl, don't appear in this midquel; that's the only positive thing I can say about this movie! Although, the cricket that pops up every now and again is a shitty imitation of the caterpillar. The original movie was grounded in reality for the most part and the animals acted as real animals tend to do instinct and all. Here, they seem to have more human attributes to them like SINGING FUCKING DOGS! Another thing this movie does often is toilet humor and butt jokes, like mistaking a fat pigs ass for a pumpkin or a failed paper-training comment, something the original lacked! As a matter of fact, the slapstick just keeps going and going and going on! Padding out a majority of the film! Not even Home on the Range was this bad at slapstick!

 

The main plot of this movie is the cliché and extremely stupid joining a rock band plot and blah, blah, blah, friends are more important than fame. Or rather, in this case, a country western band of SINGING FUCKING DOGS! These new characters have absolutely no real personalities and are extremely bland. I can see why Patrick Swayze (1952-2009) never did another voice role, and may he rest in peace. The only thing I know about this band of SINGING DOGS is that one of them has a vagina. And to be honest, the singing really sucks. I'm not a big fan of country music to begin with, but it sounds very stereotypical here; plus, it quickly gets grating on you when it's mostly just howling. And this band is also extremely annoying: you've got the crotchety old dog that looks like a rat, the two Patrick Star idiot hounds voiced by JIM CUMMINGS, the Patrick Swayze dog and the primadonna bitch dog. See what I mean? Another thing the original did well was using an ambiguous timeline. By the way, things looked it could've taken place anywhere from the 1910s to the early 1930s. The carnival looks almost modern by comparison, or at the very least 80s, WHEN THE ORIGINAL MOVIE WAS MADE! The kids they got to do Copper and Todd weren't given any real direction whatsoever and they're just plain ear sores, especially the kid who does Todd, who does voice work for The Backyardigans! Fuck, not even Patrick Swayze has a good performance!

 

The animation actually managed to be worse than the original too, and that's back when Disney used that somewhat grainy animation style, DURING THE DARK AGE! The CGI is extremely noticeable and very uncanny and out of date even for 2006. Compared to Aladdin and Beauty and the Beast’s usage of CGI, it sticks out like an erection. Back to the characters, the only two humans in the original movie were Amos and Tweed; the other humans in is movie look more uncanny than the ones in The Angry Beavers, and they're SUPPOSED TO look ugly! They're even blander than the animals. Also, this movie has ALOT of arguing and characters yelling at each other for no reason whatsoever but to fake tension. It manages to actually be far MEANER than the original movie about learning that sometimes you can't fight the way the cold cruel world expects you to be and that friendships do die sometimes. This movie also has the 2nd worse villain in Disney history next to Sarousch from The Hunchback of Notre Dame II. The original didn't HAVE any villains! This entire movie took place over the course of two freaking days; the pacing is just rushed with a breakneck pace, which kind of makes sense since this is somewhere in the MIDDLE OF THE REAL MOVIE!

 

Truth be told, you can take all of The Fox and the Hound characters out of this movie and it would roughly be the same. It has literally nothing to do with the original movie tone or otherwise whatsoever. It is quite literally a BIG LIPPED ALLIGATOR MOVIE! Who, who ASKED for a midquel to The Fox and the Hound? Copper was already good at hunting in the original movie! He didn't need to go through this at all! 17 minutes in, I have a migraine from this thing. Remember when MrEnter said this was stupider than The Hunchback of Notre Dame II? He wasn't joking at all! At least I can understand where The Hunchback of Notre Dame II came from: they wanted to give Quasimodo a girlfriend because that's what the fans wanted, and in a twisted way, it succeeded. This Fox and the Hound midquel is NOTHING! It is an insult to the original movie in every single way. In the end, Copper and Todd are still going to become bitter enemies when they grow up in spite of all the stupidity they just went through. Plus, there's twerking, and ass scooting, yeah... It sure uses low-end gross-out jokes, even milk shooting out of Abigail's udders looks like chunky sperm. Honestly in reality not even the Grand Ol' Opery would accept these dreck!


Cringe-Inducing Audio: 7
Cringe-Inducing Visuals: 5
Lackluster Writing: 10
Annoyance: 9
Disturbing Content: 2
Unnecessary Cruelty: 5
Rancid Morality: 0
Low production Values: 4
Unfortunate Implications: 7
Character Derailment: 8

Final Score: 57/100

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Comments: 94

SnyderEzekiel In reply to ??? [2024-05-05 00:16:38 +0000 UTC]

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JRR5790 In reply to SnyderEzekiel [2024-10-23 05:46:02 +0000 UTC]

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jusjetz [2023-04-06 00:55:30 +0000 UTC]

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Cartoonicus [2021-02-27 19:08:28 +0000 UTC]

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Matt7946 [2020-07-01 23:18:46 +0000 UTC]

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pinkaliciousgal2019 [2020-05-17 05:02:26 +0000 UTC]

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DaBair [2020-02-02 17:02:55 +0000 UTC]

I kinda wish someone would make an adaptation of The Fox and the Hound that was faithful to the book. Judging by what I've read of the book on Wikipedia and TV Tropes, it actually sounds a lot more interesting than Disney's version. I'd picture it being intended for an older audience. It probably wouldn't be feasible since the Disney version is far more well-known than the book (plus parents would complain about it being too dark), and of course I think Disney still owns the movie rights to the book, but it would be interesting if it existed.

I also wish they'd bring the book back into print. I heard that it's been out of print for decades and that copies are pretty hard to find.

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Dynamoe In reply to DaBair [2020-10-12 06:37:55 +0000 UTC]

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MCCToonsfan1999 [2019-09-12 19:45:33 +0000 UTC]

Why Disney, Why would you turn The Fox and The Hound From a bittersweet movie Into a silly and musical movie. I understand why they didn’t feature the birds in the sequel probably due to the deaths of Pearl Bailey(Big Mama)in 1990 and Paul Winchell(Boomer) in 2005,but they can include the birds in the midquels and have it just like the movie,because they’re the comic reliefs if they got replacement actors,Jim Cummings would’ve fit Boomer perfectly since he acquired the roles of Winchell’s other characters,Tigger and Dick Dastardly after his retirement.

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pinkaliciousgal2019 In reply to MCCToonsfan1999 [2020-05-17 05:04:00 +0000 UTC]

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Alexiskuwata [2018-08-28 04:35:08 +0000 UTC]

I love it because that kid voiced the character in my profile pic!

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TheCartoonWizard [2018-08-03 21:45:24 +0000 UTC]

this movie was so bad that it doesn't even connect with the first one

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P97Industries [2018-05-14 06:38:40 +0000 UTC]

Mr. Cat: What a nice Disney Sequel. HAVE YOU BEEN SMOKING CANDY WEED!?! TELL ME WHERE THE DANGER IS HERE!?!

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JustSomePainter11 [2018-04-01 12:19:25 +0000 UTC]

That's one big dog butt

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ZootopiaFan1 [2017-12-15 21:18:37 +0000 UTC]

Don't hate me because I like it!

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HarmonyBunny2024 In reply to ZootopiaFan1 [2018-01-22 11:06:52 +0000 UTC]

Coming from a person who has a butt shaking icon... yeah man, you got issues.

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Ecclytennysmithylove [2017-02-28 22:51:32 +0000 UTC]

Fixed a few errors in your review summary, so do the same thing as always:










Why is it that midquels are a bad idea? That answer is actually pretty obvious really: a midquel or interquel rarely, if ever, adds anything to the original source it's taking place within; a good deal of the time what we see won't actually matter in the end because we know what the end result of the original is anyways. Unless they can add something that we never would've guessed like witnessing a secret that was hinted at or seeing something from a different perspective that can positively change aspects of the original. The Beauty and the Beast midquels are just plain stupid and boring; I don't honestly give a shit what Belle and the Beast were doing all those months because we see how it went for ourselves in the original movie! Plus, they bring up a lot of unfortunate implications that weren't present in the original movie.

 

The ONLY Disney midquel I'd ever qualify as a good movie was Bambi II, because we don't actually see much of Bambi's adopted father but for a minute in the actual film and we can see firsthand how Bambi grew up. It also helps Patrick Stewart kicks major ass as his daddy. The only other midquel I can see working on a story driven level are the Dragon Ball Z movies Battle of Gods and Resurrection F. Those not only add to the original anime and manga giving us details before Uub was born explaining Goku's training during those 10 years, but THEY ACTUALLY MANAGE TO KEEP THE TONE OF THE ORIGINAL!

 

The Fox and the Hound was a very dark, somber and bittersweet movie about dealing with life changes, letting go and trying to deal with how society sees you and learning that sometimes you cannot completely fight the roles you were born into. Good thing there's absolutely none of that in the midquel, which is before Amos Slade takes Copper with him for months of hunting, turning him into a fox killer. And Todd is actually supportive of Copper doing this training! In the original movie, he had no idea what that would entail until he saw the fox skin shed; here, he seems to realize right away what Copper will do and is cool with it! WHY!? 

 

Amos Slade and Widow Tweed have been derailed from a conflicting pair of old folks into a flirtatious shipping pair. Yes, it did show they were getting along better in the original movie as Willow nursed Amos back to health somewhat, but that was near the END! And Amos was still as crotchety as ever! Speaking of Amos, he actually seems very mean in this midquel, using Chief as a training dummy for Copper to chase and basically yelling at Copper, having no faith in his abilities even though he's a puppy. In the original movie, he loved Copper and gave him positive reinforcement throughout the movie; he also treasured Chief and was very very upset when he nearly died. Speaking of Copper, he's an idiot here: he forgot how to track animals when he KNEW how to do it in the original film! His stupidity led to Todd almost getting killed! By the by, that chase scene in the beginning is a mish-mash of the original movie scenes of Todd wrecking the barn and Amos chasing him down; SO LAZY!

 

The comedy of this movie is poor at best honestly. The original movie barely had any slapstick whatsoever, most of that came from Dinky the finch and Boomer the woodpecker trying to get the caterpillar. It worked because they were comic relief characters! By the by, they, along with Big Mama the owl, don't appear in this midquel; that's the only positive thing I can say about this movie! Although, the cricket that pops up every now and again is a shitty imitation of the caterpillar. The original movie was grounded in reality for the most part, and the animals acted as real animals tend to do instinct and all. Here, they seem to have more human attributes to them like SINGING FUCKING DOGS! Another thing this movie does often is toilet humor and butt jokes, like mistaking a fat pigs ass for a pumpkin or a failed paper-training comment, something the original lacked! As a matter of fact, the slapstick just keeps going and going and going on! Padding out a majority of the film! Not even Home on the Range was this bad at slapstick!

 

The main plot of this movie is the cliché and extremely stupid joining a rock band plot and blah, blah, blah, friends are more important than fame. Or rather, in this case, a country western band of SINGING FUCKING DOGS! These new characters have absolutely no real personalities and are extremely bland. I can see why Patrick Swayze (1952-2009) never did another voice role, and may he rest in peace. The only thing I know about this band of SINGING DOGS is that one of them has a vagina. And to be honest, the singing really sucks. I'm not a big fan of country music to begin with, but it sounds very stereotypical here; plus, it quickly gets grating on you when it's mostly just howling. And this band is also extremely annoying: you've got the crotchety old dog that looks like a rat, the two Patrick Star idiot hounds voiced by JIM CUMMINGS, the Patrick Swayze dog and the primadonna bitch dog. See what I mean? Another thing the original did well was using an ambiguous timeline. By the way, things looked it could've taken place anywhere from the 1910's to the early 1930's. The carnival looks almost modern by comparison, or at the very least 80's WHEN THE ORIGINAL MOVIE WAS MADE! The kids they got to do Copper and Todd weren't given any real direction whatsoever, and they're just plain ear sores, especially the kid who does Todd, who does voice work for The Backyardigans! Fuck, not even Patrick Swayze has a good performance!

 

The animation actually managed to be worse than the original too, and that's back when Disney used that somewhat grainy animation style... DURING THE DARK AGE! The CGI is extremely noticeable and very uncanny and out of date even for 2006. Compared to Aladdin and Beauty and the Beast's usage of CGI, it sticks out like an erection. Back to the characters, the only two humans in the original movie were Amos and Tweed. Here, the other humans in this movie look more uncanny than the ones in The Angry Beavers, and they're SUPPOSED TO look ugly! They're even blander than the animals. Also, this movie has ALOT of arguing and characters yelling at each other for no reason whatsoever but to fake tension. It manages to actually be far MEANER than the original movie about learning that sometimes you can't fight the way the cold cruel world expects you to be, and that friendships do die sometimes. This movie also has the 2nd worse villain in Disney history next to Sarousch from The Hunchback of Notre Dame II. The original didn't HAVE any villains! This entire movie took place over the course of two freaking days; the pacing is just rushed with a breakneck pace, which kind of makes sense since this is somewhere in the MIDDLE OF THE REAL MOVIE!

 

Truth be told, you can take all of The Fox and the Hound characters out of this movie, and it would roughly be the same. It has literally nothing to do with the original movie tone or otherwise whatsoever. It is quite literally a BIG LIPPED ALLIGATOR MOVIE! Who... who ASKED for a midquel to The Fox and the Hound? Copper was already good at hunting in the original movie! He didn't need to go through this at all! 17 minutes in, I have a migraine from this thing. Remember when MrEnter said this was stupider than The Hunchback of Notre Dame II? He wasn't joking at all! At least I can understand where The Hunchback of Notre Dame II came from: they wanted to give Quasimodo a girlfriend because that's what the fans wanted, and in a twisted way, it succeeded. This Fox and the Hound midquel is NOTHING! It is an insult to the original movie in every single way. In the end, Copper and Todd are still going to become bitter enemies when they grow up in spite of all the stupidity they just went through. Plus, there's twerking, and ass scooting, yeah... It sure uses low-end gross-out jokes, even milk shooting out of Abigail's udders looks like chunky sperm. Honestly, in reality, not even the Grand Ol' Opery would accept these dreck!

👍: 1 ⏩: 0

Taz2300 [2017-01-09 06:26:42 +0000 UTC]

Actually Dragon Ball Super retcons what happened after the Buu Saga

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Herowebcomics [2016-12-24 04:54:31 +0000 UTC]

I thought this movie was fun, but basicly pointless.
And this dance is messed up!

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Cambion-Hunter [2016-09-12 17:50:26 +0000 UTC]

This film is an atrocity. MrEnter would have field day with this, or any other major animation critic.

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Regulas314 In reply to Cambion-Hunter [2016-12-24 05:37:34 +0000 UTC]

Doug Walker had fun ripping into it for Disneycember.

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Cambion-Hunter In reply to Regulas314 [2016-12-24 06:09:41 +0000 UTC]

And it was swell to see. ^^

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JtCampbellakaTheSuit [2016-07-16 16:24:17 +0000 UTC]

What do think about the 3rd movie of The Little Mermaid trilogy?

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Regulas314 In reply to JtCampbellakaTheSuit [2016-12-24 05:38:01 +0000 UTC]

Need to check it out, but it looks like Shlock meant for Disney Junior.

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furikatsuma [2016-07-07 22:19:34 +0000 UTC]

How long before Copper's "Harrr-mo-ne-eeeeee!!!!" gets a Sparta remix?

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bubbles46853 [2016-06-24 04:15:13 +0000 UTC]

Well, that doggie in the middle is really cute!

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AmazingAnagram [2016-03-26 17:49:22 +0000 UTC]

the thumbnail is furry clickbait get a better pic or i'll call my lawyer to sue you for a bazillion dollars

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Regulas314 In reply to AmazingAnagram [2016-03-26 17:51:30 +0000 UTC]

Too late, I'm suin' your ass for a gajillion dollars just for being in a Cory in Da House fan club. Seriously who made such a thing? That's WORSE than being a furry!

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AmazingAnagram In reply to Regulas314 [2016-03-26 18:07:11 +0000 UTC]

lol

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68483p In reply to AmazingAnagram [2023-08-16 04:21:03 +0000 UTC]

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Miss-Barker [2016-03-12 01:02:53 +0000 UTC]

I remember buying this movie for my brother as a christmas gift when he was six. I wonder if he even remembers this film.

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Regulas314 In reply to Miss-Barker [2016-03-26 17:51:44 +0000 UTC]

Let's hope not.

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Miss-Barker In reply to Regulas314 [2016-03-27 13:18:55 +0000 UTC]

I just asked him. He says he doesn't remember.

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Simpsonsfanatic33 [2015-12-14 00:27:41 +0000 UTC]

I haven't seen the sequel to the original Fox and the Hound, but I do not plan to cause I know it will be almost as bad as Pocahontas 2: Journey to a New World. Pocahontas becomes a 2 timer in that movie and I hated it.

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TherealRNO In reply to Simpsonsfanatic33 [2017-06-15 03:38:13 +0000 UTC]

At least Pocahontas 2 was factually accurate because the real Powhatan chief's daughter was only 12 when she and John Smith, then a middle-aged settler, met and became friends in real-life history, with Pocahontas never falling in love with John Smith like the first Disney film falsely & inaccurately suggested. She did, however, move to England and marry John Rolfe in real-life, so...

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Simpsonsfanatic33 In reply to TherealRNO [2017-06-15 11:47:38 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. That's true there.

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Regulas314 In reply to Simpsonsfanatic33 [2016-02-07 22:38:16 +0000 UTC]

It's so much worse.

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SodaDog [2015-09-24 13:13:01 +0000 UTC]

That cat to the left sums my feelings about this movie.

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Regulas314 In reply to SodaDog [2015-10-21 05:21:11 +0000 UTC]

Mine too. All too well.

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AetherStar [2015-09-19 12:23:23 +0000 UTC]

No.

No booty shake.

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Regulas314 In reply to AetherStar [2015-10-21 05:21:00 +0000 UTC]

Roll it around, don't quake it.

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Toongirl18 [2015-09-13 17:50:02 +0000 UTC]

I kinda love Disney Sequels when I was young.

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Regulas314 In reply to Toongirl18 [2015-09-13 21:38:36 +0000 UTC]

Some of them are pretty good, most of them not so much.

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Toongirl18 In reply to Regulas314 [2015-09-13 22:51:27 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. People have opinion. I love that Jeff Bennett was in it.

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Regulas314 In reply to Toongirl18 [2015-09-14 05:13:01 +0000 UTC]

Toongirl you're so awesome.

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Toongirl18 In reply to Regulas314 [2015-09-14 05:50:29 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.

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Hexidextrous [2015-09-13 13:10:59 +0000 UTC]

Most Disney Cheap-Quels were nothing special, such as this.

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Regulas314 In reply to Hexidextrous [2015-09-13 21:38:50 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, but they're insulting usually.

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Corbett-Collins [2015-09-11 20:14:25 +0000 UTC]

I just hate those Disney VHS/DVD sequels, prequels, and what you said *midequels*, because they always ruin the goodness of the so-called *first movie* and always ruin especially the characters from that original.  

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Regulas314 In reply to Corbett-Collins [2015-10-21 05:21:43 +0000 UTC]

Not all of them are that bad though like Lion King 2 and Aladdin 3.

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