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Published: 2014-11-18 01:25:27 +0000 UTC; Views: 3421; Favourites: 20; Downloads: 7
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Description I've seen reviews of this Spongebob episode by PieGuyRulz and MrEnter, and they both say the episode is atrocious.  After watching it for myself, I respectfully disagree.   I'm aware I'll probably get some hate myself for this, but I don't think it's as bad as it has been said to be.  In fact, I think the episode is pretty good.

Update : Increased the page layout vertically to allow for a more extensive review, re-worded review, raised the grade from a C+ to a B, and reworked final thought.
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Agent36496 [2017-04-27 20:50:16 +0000 UTC]

Too bad. I highly disagree. This episode is one reason I hate SpongeBob as a character, annoying Squidward when all he wants is a quiet day. The dumb security system going haywire is unfunny to me. The very end of the episode is a total flop.

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RetroUniverseArt In reply to Agent36496 [2017-04-27 21:03:55 +0000 UTC]

Eh, I've seen worse.  Spongebob wasn't malicous.  He was just unware because Squidward didn't really say anything until he couldn't take it anymore.

As for the security system and the ending, Squidward kinda deserve it since he did hit the machine, causing it to feel threatened.  And he was the one who purchased and assembled it out of spite for two guys who wanted to make him happy.

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Augcraftgaming36 [2016-11-11 00:10:08 +0000 UTC]

THANK YOUUUUUU. I'm not the only one that thinks this episode is not bad.

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GreenDingo777 [2016-10-06 05:09:27 +0000 UTC]

I'll be honest with you Benny, I hated Squid ward before but this episode made me hate him even more, he was basically a hypocrite, in past episodes he was always a jerk, even when Spongebob isn't bothering him, Nautical neighbors, Christmas who, the Camping episode,Grandma's Kisses, that TV Box episode etc, he's no saint, even if Spongebob apologize to him sometimes. Yet most people claims squid's the real victim.

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PTBoomer In reply to GreenDingo777 [2023-12-17 15:40:44 +0000 UTC]

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GreenDingo777 In reply to PTBoomer [2023-12-17 23:21:10 +0000 UTC]

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RetroUniverseArt In reply to GreenDingo777 [2016-10-06 11:37:08 +0000 UTC]

True in the early season, Squidward was a major asshole and proud of it, but he usually got comeuppance for his actions/misbehavior.  I think the writers in the newer seasons didn't like Squidward either and wanted to punish him for his actions in those early season episodes.  Unfortunately, "SpongeBob" is not heavy on continuity anymore than a typical Looney Tunes cartoon.  This means karma in a later episode doesn't work in the series.  Having Squidward get punished in episodes like "Boating Buddies" and "Restraining SpongeBob" without him doing anything to deserve the punishment in that those exact episodes just makes it come of as him getting beat up and insulted just for being himself.

P.S. I hated Squidward in "Grandma's Kisses" too.

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GreenDingo777 In reply to RetroUniverseArt [2016-10-06 23:05:59 +0000 UTC]

I didn't know the writers hated him.

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ThalassoAtrox [2015-02-13 22:58:32 +0000 UTC]

I disagree,i find this episode to be an example of their "good intentions" meaning little when their actions are still annoying regardless,basic intentions vs execution on the writers part. Also this episode feels lazily written because its the first ever Annoy Squidward Episode  to have SB and PT annoy him by outright attacking him so to speak,by breaking into his house and bluntly ignoring him when he told them to get out and leave him alone.

Previous episodes of this format  usually  involved Squidward getting into their antics to best them and bringing the torture on himself or give a better justification for SB and PT ignorance than them being blind to reality,and getting back better to the former Squidward would always have the option to walk away from it at any moment,whiles here he is essentially trapped since not even his own home can provide him sanctuary. And to me the part when he gets the security system and onwards feel like the writers lazily and hastily trying to cover their mistakes by trying to make the duo more sympathetic, but it ultimately ends up making me confused as to who I`m supposed to root for during those scenes,but in the end I still side with Squidward And even disregarding all of that ,Squidwards punishment at the end is far too severe.

And lastly ,this episode isn't very funny in my opinion and it makes the flaw of putting too much emphases on how sad and depressed he is,making his plight more relatable and there for less amusing.

I admit compared to episodes such as Choir Boys,Boating Buddies and Cephalopod Lodge this one ,minus the ending, feels more tame,but I still think its a bad and poorly written episode on its own merits.

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RetroUniverseArt In reply to ThalassoAtrox [2015-02-14 00:03:59 +0000 UTC]

You make some good points.  I still think this episode isn't as bad, mostly because this is the only time in the pre-1st-movie era where Spongebob and Patrick genuinely realize that they messed up and they took the time to do something nice for Squidward to show how sorry that they were.

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ThalassoAtrox In reply to RetroUniverseArt [2015-02-14 00:30:53 +0000 UTC]

True ,but that part ends quickly and is practically forgotten and at the end when Squidward gets a summit to do community service every Sunday for the rest of his life that earlier scene means absolutely nothing at that point ,they should have ended it there with them apologizing to Squidward and them making up instead of continuing on and ending up with Squidward getting undeserved punishment while the those 2 get basically rewarded for tormenting Squidward by being legally bound to spend every Sunday with him. A good ending would have gone a long way in improving the episode instead of the infuriating ending we got.

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RetroUniverseArt In reply to ThalassoAtrox [2015-02-14 01:14:58 +0000 UTC]

"Spongebob" isn't' exactly a series to follow continuity from other episodes.  Remember, Squidward states Sunday is the only day of the week he gets off while a previous episode lamented that he didn't get Sundays off from work.  We also have an episode that ends with Squidward changing his restraining order to be against Patrick, and yet Patrick has been seen within 100 feet of Squidward in later episodes.  So odds are that Squidward's summoning was forgotten by the next episode.

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ThalassoAtrox In reply to RetroUniverseArt [2015-02-14 01:36:19 +0000 UTC]

I know the show has zero continuity,how could anyone not notice that,but that doesn't change the fact that the ending is just horrible,and its the fact that it simply happened within the context of the specific episode that matters,in the end Squidward got punished severely without deserving it,yes the episode cut before it could happen properly,but it its a terrible ending in context.

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RetroUniverseArt In reply to ThalassoAtrox [2015-02-14 02:24:32 +0000 UTC]

I wouldn't say Squidward didn't deserve his punishment entirely.  He was the one who bought and installed the security system.  I know, he wouldn't have had to buy it if Spongebob and Patrick didn't invade his home.  I'm not saying Squidward is completely to blame, but I am saying for why he gets some of it.  And as you brought up, he does get punished way worse for doing little to nothing in later episodes like "Squidwood," and "The Thing."

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PTBoomer In reply to RetroUniverseArt [2023-07-03 10:52:04 +0000 UTC]

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RetroUniverseArt In reply to PTBoomer [2023-07-03 12:41:34 +0000 UTC]

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PTBoomer In reply to RetroUniverseArt [2023-07-14 17:10:52 +0000 UTC]

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RetroUniverseArt In reply to PTBoomer [2023-07-15 03:07:23 +0000 UTC]

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PTBoomer In reply to RetroUniverseArt [2023-10-05 18:57:04 +0000 UTC]

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BobClampettFan164 [2015-01-13 18:25:47 +0000 UTC]

Good review. However., I think All That Glitters is worse.
This episode was kinda weak, but I don't think this episode is that bad. 
BTW, the part where Squidward refused to listen to Spongebob's apology, made me lose respect for him.

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PTBoomer In reply to BobClampettFan164 [2023-05-20 16:46:06 +0000 UTC]

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RetroUniverseArt In reply to BobClampettFan164 [2015-01-13 19:36:20 +0000 UTC]

I didn't know "All That Glitters" was a season 4 episode.  If that's the case, then I agree with you.

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toonbro13 [2015-01-11 16:51:01 +0000 UTC]

my issue was more how it felt flanderized and kinda dull and forgettable

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falconvillager [2014-12-29 23:47:48 +0000 UTC]

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PTBoomer In reply to falconvillager [2023-04-16 15:54:41 +0000 UTC]

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itsshehahnbro [2014-11-27 03:30:51 +0000 UTC]

Finally someone who likes this episode!

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Stocking-Star [2014-11-27 02:37:50 +0000 UTC]

Quick question: A C+?

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RetroUniverseArt In reply to Stocking-Star [2014-11-27 02:39:20 +0000 UTC]

Yes, a C+.  That mean in my opinion, the good very slightly outweighs the bad.

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HeRodeABlazingCarpet [2014-11-20 19:00:31 +0000 UTC]

Agreed. Personally, I've always thought the worst episode of season 4 was "Squid Wood," with "Karate Island" as a close second. But even the latter isn't totally awful, and a lot of the really hated episodes of season 4 aren't all that bad (I actually like "Whale of a Birthday" and "New Leaf," both of which PieGuyRulz lambasted).

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RetroUniverseArt In reply to HeRodeABlazingCarpet [2014-11-20 19:20:57 +0000 UTC]

I definitely agree.  "Squid Wood" pretty much had Squidward's life and ambitions robbed from him all because Spongebob wouldn't respect his privacy.  True, he also didn't respect it in "Good Neighbors," but he was unaware of his actions and he did apologize for it later.  "Karate Island" was nothing more than Nick's way of saying "girls are better than boys."

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ThalassoAtrox In reply to RetroUniverseArt [2015-02-14 00:36:31 +0000 UTC]

I disagree about Karate Island,Sandy and SpongeBob always were strong & capable and weak & helpless respectively, plus Master Udon was able to hold his own in a fight with Sandy, I don't see how that message is present in that episode in any way or form.

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RetroUniverseArt In reply to ThalassoAtrox [2015-02-14 01:18:35 +0000 UTC]

The message is present because Sandy is all the more wiser and suspects something is up while Spongebob is too busy gloating and easily falls into the trap.  He literally cries to Sandy for help and flat out admits he can't handle everything, prompting Sandy to come to his rescue.  The episode just flat out forgets that both Spongebob and Sandy are equally skilled in karate so that it can make Sandy the hero.

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ThalassoAtrox In reply to RetroUniverseArt [2015-02-14 01:49:01 +0000 UTC]

Eh again ,Sandy always was the intelligent one while SpongeBob always was the gullible one ,they were just being in character,plus SpongeBob was only skilled in karate in Karate Chopper witch was the first episode to feature that interest of his ,following with No Wennies Allowed onwards he consistently sucked at karate,this episode isn't the first one to show that ,he only showed to be skilled in it in one episode back when the show had just started.And even then the show has no continuity,and episodes like Squids Visit have gone even further in contradicting previous episodes. 

I don't get how SpongeBob and Sandy being themselves equals sexist message,and like I said SpongeBob was unskilled in karate in every episode but Karate Choppers,so in a sense people should be bashing that episode for portraying him out of character .

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RetroUniverseArt In reply to ThalassoAtrox [2015-02-14 02:49:06 +0000 UTC]

"Tea and the Treedome," where Sandy was introduced, clearly did express that both Sandy and Spongebob were equals in karate.  Also, remember the "Alaskain Bull Worm" episode?  Spongebob seemed to know more about how dangerous a bullworm is while Sandy was looking to go pick a fight with it, only to learn just how big and vicious those things really are.

Spongebob wasn't being his old gullible self.  He was being a straight up egotist until he got into trouble, then he was just being pathetic.  He could have easily gotten out of that chair by detaching his own limbs and then regrowing them (Remember, Spongebob can reproduce by budding).  Also, I didn't say the episode was sexist because the character were out of character.  I was saying the episode implied that girls are better than boys by putting it's focus on getting Spongebob captured and having Sandy come to save him with very little effort.  She doesn't even use any karate (instead, she relied on donuts, a hair-dryer and her own underwater helmet) to get passed all three obstacles.  On top of that, having only Spongebob get invited just so he could be sold some kid of realestate also implied boys are dumb enough to buy anything without question it while girls wouldn't be so easily fooled (or fooled at all) into it.

If you're gonna do a boys vs girls story, it's not a good idea to have the boys be a jerkish as possible just so they can be set up to be proven wrong and have the girls come out on top.  It's better to have both sides realized that boys and girls are equals. One way they could have done this episode right is by having both Spongebob and Sandy be invited to the island, have them both get captured and have them both work together to get free.

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ThalassoAtrox In reply to RetroUniverseArt [2015-02-14 02:58:34 +0000 UTC]

SpongeBob let gory get to his head, that was a case of circumstance acquired arrogance,again all I see in this episode is SpongeBob and Sandy being their usual selves, Sandy is smart and SpongeBob is gullible,of course he would fall for an obvious trap while she would more cautious and intelligent,also SpongeBob detaching his limbs and regrowing them was only used as a joke a couple of times,its not a ability that he can uses at any time.I`m sorry but I cant see any of what your saying in this episode, I watched it several times and its just not there.  

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RetroUniverseArt In reply to ThalassoAtrox [2015-02-14 03:24:48 +0000 UTC]

Being gullible is not the same as being stupid or arrogant.

Actually, it is an ability he can use anytime because...he's a sponge.

I guess two people aren't always able to see the exact same thing in something like that.  Let's just agree to disagree.

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HeRodeABlazingCarpet In reply to RetroUniverseArt [2014-11-20 21:40:47 +0000 UTC]

Agreed.

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BigMike3192 [2014-11-20 01:05:34 +0000 UTC]

I will admit. SpongeBob and Patrick did do an awful lot of annoying things to poor Squidward, who only wanted to enjoy his day off without anyone bothering him. But it was his fault of installing an obviously-defective security system that gives this episode the double-bladed sword it deserves.

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PTBoomer In reply to BigMike3192 [2023-04-14 15:52:52 +0000 UTC]

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DeadImmortal71 [2014-11-20 00:35:53 +0000 UTC]

Even though I don't like this episode, you do make some good points.

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RetroUniverseArt In reply to DeadImmortal71 [2014-11-20 00:36:57 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.  I know it's not a big favorite among Spongebob fans.

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DeadImmortal71 In reply to RetroUniverseArt [2014-11-20 00:41:53 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome, and yeah, you got that fact right.

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LionLightningStrike [2014-11-18 18:52:13 +0000 UTC]

Do you think that Spongebob  will return his old self in new season?

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RetroUniverseArt In reply to LionLightningStrike [2014-11-18 18:59:56 +0000 UTC]

I'm sure that he will.  Especially since Steven Hillenburg has returned to save his creations from Casey Alexander, Zues Sevus and the other writers who tried to turn the series into another Ren and Stimpy Adult Party.

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LionLightningStrike In reply to RetroUniverseArt [2014-11-18 20:15:19 +0000 UTC]

Well I can't hardly wait to watch the new Spongebob movie, this is gonna be fun.

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RetroUniverseArt In reply to LionLightningStrike [2014-11-18 20:30:55 +0000 UTC]

You and me both.

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LKHfffan [2014-11-18 07:16:54 +0000 UTC]

Season 4?

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lightingshine [2014-11-18 02:35:46 +0000 UTC]

The episode give me a meh reaction but it was kinda messy. The godzila scene was kinda funny but it also was an out of place joke IMO. is more mediocre then atrocious. I do agree that is one of the worst of season 4 with All that glitters but it was not that bad. Just messy.

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BlueMario1016 [2014-11-18 02:17:18 +0000 UTC]

This episode was in fact well written compared to the later Season 4 episodes.

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RetroUniverseArt In reply to BlueMario1016 [2014-11-18 02:32:16 +0000 UTC]

As well as other episodes from seasons 5-9.

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