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RobCaswell In reply to garryts [2015-11-17 21:05:09 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, but consider it's that "street tech" that allows us to have this conversation.... and to be typing in the most unlikely of places!
I sure miss ACC's input on our present and future.
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garryts In reply to RobCaswell [2015-11-18 13:55:49 +0000 UTC]
I know what you mean - but I would happily give that up for a world where we (took for granted) 2001-style orbiting space stations and Clavius base!
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RobCaswell In reply to Nuclear-Fridge [2014-05-07 15:46:11 +0000 UTC]
Thanks. Yeah, we did think through the engineering as best were able.
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Nuclear-Fridge In reply to RobCaswell [2014-05-08 14:44:43 +0000 UTC]
And it shows! I've been bothered by the movie's aero-braking scene for quite some time, and it's all down to the giant air bags they use for the heat shield. Leaving aside the validity of such a device, it runs counter to the "why complicate things, if the stuff we've used for years works?" design ethos the Soviets/Russians have regarding their spaceflight tech.
I mean, for example, what if one of the multiple inflatable bags hadn't worked? They're making their approach, and a little red light clicks on. Some valve doesn't perform as expected, and now they're about to get char-broiled. A giant ablative shield just makes more sense to me.
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RobCaswell In reply to Nuclear-Fridge [2014-05-12 18:35:50 +0000 UTC]
The main consideration with the inflatable shield is mass. And as the book illustrates, mass was at a premium with the Leonov which was trying to get there quick! Clark fully approved to the ballutes and had he thought of them earlier I wouldn't be surprised if he'd have popped 'em into the book. But you certainly make some good points about reliability and safety.
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Nuclear-Fridge In reply to RobCaswell [2014-05-14 13:12:50 +0000 UTC]
Thanks. I'm a big fan of "keep it simple, stupid!" when it comes to spaceflight.
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JDunk1971 [2014-05-02 09:27:53 +0000 UTC]
I like the workday aesthetics of your design.
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longibando [2014-03-28 00:43:53 +0000 UTC]
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RobCaswell In reply to longibando [2014-05-02 13:30:17 +0000 UTC]
Hm? You can send me a note with details and I can get back to you on this.
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William-Black [2014-02-09 01:49:45 +0000 UTC]
This work impressed the hell out of me the first time I saw it over on Winchell Chung's Atomic Rocket's site - from the serious approach to the technical design right down to the aesthetics of hull color, this is superb in every regard.
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RobCaswell In reply to William-Black [2014-03-05 18:16:16 +0000 UTC]
Thanks - and I'm glad you took note of our "Soyuz-green" hull color!
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longibando [2013-01-24 19:45:32 +0000 UTC]
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RobCaswell In reply to longibando [2013-01-24 20:35:52 +0000 UTC]
Indeed we have, even though there's little detail to go on. It might yet be a future project.
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alderfek [2012-11-07 17:43:47 +0000 UTC]
From the heatshield/aeroshell to the radiators, this thing is great.
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RobCaswell In reply to alderfek [2012-11-08 20:26:28 +0000 UTC]
Hey, THANKS! I know we both feel it's those details and more that separate the men from the boys on spacecraft design.
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ANDY1701A [2012-09-21 18:48:30 +0000 UTC]
More great wok! Nice one.
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Techy-Ben [2011-08-27 19:27:42 +0000 UTC]
Great design and wonderful images. Really captures the awe that is imagined when thinking of space travel.
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RobCaswell In reply to Techy-Ben [2011-08-29 17:12:16 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! While the design is a co-production of myself and Drell-7 [link] , the "art" is all his and displays his unquenchable passion and knowledge of the subject.
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CaveGrue [2011-04-17 06:32:09 +0000 UTC]
Saw this on Drell's channel. Love it.
Have you two thought of drawing the Discovery as described in the first book?
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RobCaswell In reply to CaveGrue [2011-04-17 16:09:42 +0000 UTC]
Drell-7 had played with the idea a bit and maybe it'll see the light of day, at some point. I think our next 2001ish design collaboration will probably be the Chinese ship from the 2010 novel.
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Aran-Munich [2011-03-09 21:14:16 +0000 UTC]
great job
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RobCaswell In reply to dinobatfan [2011-03-04 22:52:38 +0000 UTC]
We were really guided by "what made sense", along with what Clarke describes in his pages. While the movie's Leonov is kinda neat and iconic in its on right, it's just not.... well, Russian! It has Russian insignia, but it stops there. We just went back to Clarke's words and, with a fistful of contemporary Russian space hardware pics, rebuilt it from zero.
I read the book even before it came out (I had a DelRey uncorrected proof manuscript) so my image of the events of 2010 were formed there. Thus when the movie came out, things like Mead's Leovov never really fit for me. Syd makes great ground vehicles, but I'm not so enamored by his astronautics creations.
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dinobatfan In reply to RobCaswell [2011-03-08 00:58:13 +0000 UTC]
Good guidance there. I have to agree with you about the movie Leonov. I too read the book before the movie came out and loved it, however I just bought mine at a store. While not agreeing with the movie Leonov, I do like you and Drell-7's version much better, however at this point looking back over too many years, I don't really have any clear remembrances of what I thought of the book Leonov other than I couldn't wait to see what it looked like once it was up on the Big Screen.
I do remember being a bit disappointed that the effects looked a bit too "effects" like and not as real as they could have back in the hands of Douglas Trumbull, and really not liking when the ships made blasting sounds when their engines fired. I love the sounds in Star Trek and Star Wars, they somehow seem appropriate there, if not realistic but given what 2001 established it seemed really wrong to have ship sounds out in space in 2010. 2010 I thought was a good movie, just not a great one like 2001.
As for Syd Mead I do admire his work, but until you mentioned it here, I don't think I ever really given his spaceship much thought. I do like his interpretation of the Space Battleship Yamato though for the never finished Yamato 2520. I thought that was an amazing update of the classic Yamato. Have you seen this design at all? What do you think of it?
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RobCaswell In reply to dinobatfan [2011-03-10 18:11:22 +0000 UTC]
Do read it again! I think you'll enjoy it. It really was one of Clarke's best, IMHO. Right now Drell-7 and I are in talks about realizing the Chinese ship from the movie.
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RobCaswell In reply to dinobatfan [2011-03-31 14:53:51 +0000 UTC]
By my estimation the novels get weaker as you go. 3001, IMHO, can be skipped entirely. It seems like Clarke even lost track of his own continuity on that one. I didn't enjoy 2061 the first time I read it, but that's probably because I was expecting 2010. It's not. But on re-reads I've actually enjoyed it quite a lot more.
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eddievhfan1984 In reply to RobCaswell [2012-05-23 13:42:37 +0000 UTC]
Well, he did state back in 2061 that he intended to keep the continuity "free-floating," for lack of a better term. In any case, I read 3001, and IMO, if you don't sweat the continuity (I do admit raising my eyebrow to moving the previous missions up by two decades), it's still a fun read. And even if he didn't stick hard to continuity, he didn't mind quoting liberally from previous Odyssey works, since sometimes the first take is best (plus, now that I think about it, it's a perfect way to write those Braincap download chapters, since most of them are done from Dave's POV anyways.)
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Fastmax [2011-02-26 21:29:03 +0000 UTC]
AH!! This is what I originally knew your work and moniker from.
This project.
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Tentacle3D [2010-12-10 11:52:29 +0000 UTC]
Fantastic image.
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RobCaswell In reply to Tentacle3D [2010-12-10 15:35:08 +0000 UTC]
Thanks. Be sure to visit Drell-7's page, too. The bulk of this is his artistic vision.
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Dimsdale00 [2010-08-26 13:25:56 +0000 UTC]
This is a wonderful remake of one of the best sci-fi craft ever produced. I love the original by Trumbull's team and this immediately struck me as awesome! Didn't know you were involved, fantastic work here. This is #1 on scratch build list.
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RobCaswell In reply to Dimsdale00 [2010-08-26 14:18:11 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! Yeah, we both had a blast on this project... and we probably have a few more works yet to come from it,
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Dimsdale00 In reply to RobCaswell [2010-09-04 07:26:29 +0000 UTC]
In factt, I loved this so much that I'm slowly working (with a much much better builder than me leading) on a kitbash/scratch model of it.
Can't wait to see more! Love Love Love this redesign
Thanks again for sharinf
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RobCaswell In reply to Dimsdale00 [2010-09-04 22:05:16 +0000 UTC]
Oh man - that's cool! PLEASE post pics when its done... or give me a URL. If you need any specific detail views, LMK.
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