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A while back I started working on a little article like set of images to pay tribute to Zootopia, by listing the most noticable and unique stages the story and the characters went through during
development.

We know quite a few details and specifics, but most of the time we don’t know everything that would paint the whole picture of certain stages of the story development or the ties that connect them or the reasons that resulted in their creation. This article is somewhat informal somewhat theory based on interviews and concept arts by Byron Howard, Rich Moore, Cory Loftis, Nick Orsi and other great artists and writers who took part in the creation of Zootopia! Please Enjoy, and lets get right into things with:


The SavageSkye Storyline

In the early days, Byron Howard imagined a movie series about an anthropomorphic animal world and the adventures of a rabbit secret agent, Jack Savage. Not much is known about this storyline beside that it was a typical humorous and action packed take on classic spy-movies such as James Bond and that this was the idea that later grew further into the movie that we know as Zootopia. On the few concept arts related to Jack Savage we see a poster where his silhouette is shown with the silhouette of a fox, so it is obvious that the "fox-rabbit natural enemies to friends" dynamic came into the picture very early on. The only fox character associated with this storyline is a créme furred vixen, who is seen both in the underwater setting as a diver and in a city setting as a mechanic. The fandom named her "Skye" based on the name on her mechanic box, and many assumed that she is like a (unwanted)partner to Jack, who not just helps him but also creates the spy tools he is using, or a rival secret agent Jack ends up teaming up with. And so it pretty much became a widespread headcanon that Jack and Skye were the original duo that the creators started out with to tell the tale of an unlikely friendship.

The Switchboard operator and the Agent Storyline

According to the interviews the team abandoned the idea of using Zootopia’s setting for a spy-movie, however before that happened, the creative team had the idea that the narrative of these natural enemies learning to respect each other and become best friends would work better if the competent and strong spy is the predator and is aided and saved by the “meek” prey side-kick and learns to see the strength in the weaker species. So Jack Savage was changed from rabbit to fox, and Skye was turned from fox to rabbit. With her new appearance immediately came a new name, Judy Hopps and a new character motivation of walking her own path instead of falling in like with every other rabbit. Judy from this stage is speculated to be a switchboard operator, a mass job the city is using the large bunny population for. But she doesn’t enjoy it, and feel like there is some other calling in her life. That’s how she ends up in an adventure with a famous fox agent. Our fox hero’s name-change came a little later, according to Byron, when the concept of a “savage attacks” and “savage serum” came into the plot. That’s when they decided on renaming him to Wilde from Savage, and soon because on the (by now cancelled) project Gigantic which was a Disney Tangled-like rework of Jack and the beanstalk, Jack’s first name also had to change. That’s how he became Agent Nick Wilde. But what kind of adventures he and the switchboard operating bunny would’ve ended up in we may never know.

The Wilde Times Storyline

While the team was designing a new storyline instead of a spy story, they came up with an interesting idea. “What if the prey animals were still scared of predators in this society”. This small idea gave the entire setting a brand new light. In a world like that, predators would be not just mistrusted by the prey citizens they would require to wear fail-safes to ensure preys of their safety, which became the “tame-collar”. It is very interesting to see this from the outside because it just shows the very basics of how to create a right Alternative Universe story. Nick didn’t change as a character. According to the writers, he was always street-smart, bit cynical but filled with the good intention to help others. Obviously Nick could no longer be a hero like a spy or cop, or private detective, because he was not just facing the mistrust of against foxes but was also mistreated as a predator. But Nick didn’t change in the core because of the new script, the new script changed the world and the character’s personality adjusted to the new setting. His cynicism paired with the unjustified oppression made him look down at prey like Judy, but his good-will paired with him stuck in a low-life position by oppression resulted him become a con-mammal who found a way to help his fellow predators by opening a theme-park where they could secretly take off their collars, Wilde Times. Judy also evolved as a character into someone who had the city’s respect as an outstanding police officer, that had to capture Nick for something he was framed for. In her journey we see her learn of the dark side of the system she was upholding that was kept under the rug from her… or rather she just choose not to see it. And together they decide to change things. However, eventually the creative team had to face a problem. This world was filled with too much injustice for Nick and Judy’s friendship to fix it, not to mention Nick’s character was too overwhelmingly sad, and Judy wasn’t relatable by many. So the team set back to the story-board one last time.

The First Bunny Cop Storyline

With that we got on the path that lead to the creation of the movie we all love. With the setting putting predators and prey on equal level again, Nick had a chance to do good again, however the question was, “how?”. Based on some concept art it appears that Nick was intended to be somewhat of a private detective at one point, but this wasn’t probably working. Nick was cynical but in a world where he wasn’t oppressed, his cynical side had no motivation. The writers wanted to portray prejudice and how it effects everyone on an individual levels, and Nick was the perfect character to show how it can ruin someone who had nothing but kindness in his heart, and in Judy’s case how it can make you do bad things that you regret. With Nick’s new backstory of the Ranger Scouts betraying him and shattering his beliefs in goodness, Nick’s character was ready to meet his fate in the form a kind bunny that would help him become the fox he was meant to be. Judy’s character development shined in this setting, showing how prejudice can be something you carry around with yourself even when you think you don’t, and how much it can hurt someone you care about. But the problem resurfaced, that Nick’s life became too dark again and showed the bad-side of the city too soon. According to Rich Moore and Byron Howard, they switched the story perspective around on a whim, and suddenly it all worked. Instead of a story of a cynical but kind-hearted fox that meets and learns to respect a clever and helpful bunny, it became the story of a clever and helpful bunny the meets and learns to respect a cynical but kind-hearted fox. And according to the writers this switch was possible thanks to it that neither of them were the supporting character of the other. They were both the lead, as both of them became a better person thanks to each other. And so was that we got to witness the story of two individuals, who form a wonderful, unlikely friendship in Zootopia.

BUT HEY, That's just a theory, a FILM THEORY! Hope you enjoyed!

Zootopia and all it's characters and art belond to Disney
and the creative artists and screenwriters who created it including but not limited to:
Byron Howard, Rich Moore, Cory Loftis, Nick Orsi, Matthias Lechner, Jared Bush and Phil Johnston
The article and the main art pieces are made by me!

Cheers!
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Comments: 57

UFRMapping [2020-12-05 06:24:44 +0000 UTC]

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RT-Pilon [2020-05-05 12:31:12 +0000 UTC]

I don't know how I missed this (more than a year!), just saw it pop up in the threads and thought, what a great job.
I will always have the highest respect for your work.

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pallosalama [2019-01-23 20:48:58 +0000 UTC]

Very informative post, even if I knew most of it already.

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Manuelck [2019-01-11 15:53:56 +0000 UTC]

This info is awesome  , and the drawings are awesome too   

I would have loved to see Savage and Skye in the movie   XD

And also would have loved to see the original concept made a whole animation   XD

Thank you a lot for the info , I really enjoyed reading it
(Btw, Do you work with "The Film Theorists" youtube channel?  XD)  

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miguelalex2003 [2019-01-05 16:05:49 +0000 UTC]

thx for the info, i was all mixed up with the development of the story......PD my favorite story board was the "Wild Times" story.

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carmillad In reply to miguelalex2003 [2019-01-06 17:45:30 +0000 UTC]

OH MY GOD,thank you so much for the detailed description and art for each arc!

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Memory627 [2019-01-04 17:07:21 +0000 UTC]

Anyone else find it weird that Judy's personality and appearance kept changing, but Nick stayed pretty much the same? What's up with that?

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Chrome4ks [2019-01-02 15:18:30 +0000 UTC]

V What they said.
I couldn't put it much better. But I will say it's great to get your insight, thoughts and motivation that inspired your art.

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aqvilarostrvm [2018-12-26 04:28:29 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for this. My favorite one is the "Wild Times" story.

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rva980142 [2018-12-26 00:04:39 +0000 UTC]

Nice job RF, I wish I had know you were putting this together, it would have been fun to compare notes. If you have a listing of the references you used to put this together, I'd love a copy of them to add our "Zootopia" fact-file at tvtropes.  

I'm curious if your references included the wonderful documentary "Imagining Zootopia" or the very informative podcast "The Q&A with Jeff Goldsmith" which had an episode that featured all the Zootopia directors and writers?

Otherwise, here are some additional tid-bits of information that I thought were interesting...

"The SavageSkye Storyline". This one is the least fleshed out because the "Savage Seas" was one of three stories Byron brought to a pitch meeting with John Lasseter.   The story began in a city of animals and finished on a south seas island.  Lasseter felt the spy genre had been over-done but was intrigued by the concept of a city of animals and asked Byron to explore creating a story in that setting.  Lassetter said "I will fully support any movie that has animals running around in tiny clothes".  One of the reasons the city of Zootopia itself is is so beautifully well developed is that it had the longest development time.  I've found nothing from the creative team that defines what relationship exists between Savage and Skye, so I'd love references to any interviews that provide some detail on this. In my research, it seems to be Mr. Mead's comic "Darkest Places" which gave the biggest push to the SavageSkye romance.

"The Switchboard Operator and the Agent Storyline".  This appears to be primarily from the concept artwork shown in the "Art of Zootopia" book.  Again, I'd love anything you have that provides any details on this storyline.

"The Wilde Times Storyline ".  I realize that your article is focused on the evolution of the fox/rabbit, Nick/Judy relationship, but it's important to mention that this storyline also contains the tragic "Wilde & Son's Suitopia" story that shows how John Wilde tried to start a tailor shop with his son, Nick, and how John's unfair arrest lead Nick to become so cynical.  Also, one of the reasons the creative team held onto the tame collar approach for so long is because of the highly emotional "Taming Party" scene between Koslov and his son Morris. It was a screening of this version of the movie they presented to PIXAR that finally killed this storyline when they responded that the existence of the tame collars made them hate the city of Zootopia when they saw it had no problem oppressing a portion of its citizens this way.  

"The First Bunny Cop Storyline".  Your summary here is spot-on. One interesting tid-bit is that once they finally settled on the "focus on Judy first" approach, they had but 8 months left to deliver the movie to meet the scheduled March 4th release date.  It's a testament to the skill and dedication of the entire creative team that they were able to pull together such an exceptional movie in such a compressed time-frame.  

One final tidbit of interest regarding the movie.  Both the writers and directors have said the the most challenging scene of the movie for them was the press conference scene. They worked hard to make it clear that Judy was exposing a bias about herself that she didn't fully realize she had... namely that she believed predators were biologically predisposed to revert to savage behavior.

When Nick calls her out on this, they found the scene played well in getting her to realize how mistaken she was, however, it never felt plausible that Judy would feel so threatened by what Nick was saying that she'd actually reach for the fox repellent.    

They tried many different ways of approaching the conversation but nothing seemed to work until someone suggested... "what if Judy, as a child, had a traumatic experience with a fox/predator just like Nick did with the all-prey Junior Ranger Scouts?"  

This clicked and it was late Friday afternoon with the next screening being held on Tuesday. So over the course of a single weekend, they created the character of Gideon Grey, story-boarded Judy's childhood encounter with him, arranged the press conference confrontation with Nick to physically mirror her encounter with Gideon and it ended up working.  

Not only was Judy confused by Nick's questions pointing out her unconscious bias, but the way he physically approached triggered her memories of Gideon so she unconsciously reached for the fox repellent before she realized what she was doing.  Nick, of course, didn't know his actions triggered her memory so he felt she was reacting to him in the present resulting in the breakdown of their relationship.

Thus Gideon Grey was one of the last characters created for this film and initially his sole purpose was to beat Judy up as a child.   It was writer Phil Johnston that added a redemption arc for Gideon. 

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RobertFiddler In reply to rva980142 [2018-12-26 11:01:37 +0000 UTC]

You prett much summerized everything I already know and used for this piece. I think we both already saw and read every existing interview and documentary avaible to the public. I knew about the small timeframe they had when they switched to Judy, and what a last minute add-on Gideon was, but they were not relevant from the character's and overall story's point of view what I based the writing on.

If I would've been able to tell anything more on the Switchboard Judy and Spy Nick or the SavageSeas-SavageCity concepts, I would've written it down, sadly very little is known about these stages other than they existed based on the artworks and that they were very early concepts based on the interviews. That's why I put "Theory" in the title of all this, because many things in this article is just me, a hyperactive fanboy connecting dots the way it seems to make sense

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rva980142 In reply to RobertFiddler [2018-12-26 15:30:29 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the reply RF.   Hope you had a great Holiday.

You did a wonderful job presenting the basic evolution "beats" of the story as it involves our favorite fox/rabbit duo.  Anyone interested in following this evolution theory should invest in the "Art of Zootopia" book and go from there.

As a final tid-bit, I think it would be fair to give a shout-out to Cory Loftis (character design) and Matthias Lechner (production design).  

If you love the way the characters look, thank Cory.  If you love the way the city of Zootopia looks, thank Matthias.  Their design and imagination is just as infused into the movie as the work of Byron, Rich, Jared and Phil.

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Benjamin981 [2018-12-25 12:46:13 +0000 UTC]

Also loved the reference to Film theory. lol

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Benjamin981 [2018-12-25 12:42:49 +0000 UTC]

This was bloody awesome Robert. I loved the drawings of the characters you had on the sides of the wall of text. Also when i got to the final versions of nick and Judy my heart melted the thought and heart that went into these characters is just beyond words. Loved every word Robert.

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Malik-Elalaoui [2018-12-24 00:03:55 +0000 UTC]

GREAT JOB! i already know most of the parts by searching for it by myself (which took much time).

but your summary makes it way easier for future fans. thanks

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RobertFiddler In reply to Malik-Elalaoui [2018-12-25 09:32:33 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much! I do hope it will help future fans!

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Cimar-WildeHopps [2018-12-23 06:44:10 +0000 UTC]

A very nice showcase of the history  of the movie's development. Great job RF!

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RobertFiddler In reply to Cimar-WildeHopps [2018-12-25 09:30:38 +0000 UTC]

Thanks Cimar! Glad you like it!

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Cimar-WildeHopps In reply to RobertFiddler [2018-12-26 01:12:08 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome!

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Alex13864 [2018-12-23 02:18:35 +0000 UTC]

Nice summary, personally, Zistopia will always be my most favorite, but indeed, for a kid movie, it was too much.

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RobertFiddler In reply to Alex13864 [2018-12-25 09:29:44 +0000 UTC]

I have certain place in my heart for dystopian stories, like InTime or V for Vendetta. But I think the big problem of Zistopia wasn't that it was too dark to opress the predators. The problem was that the hurt the predators physically and nobody bat an eye. The common thing in many good dystopian stories is that they are scary because it's realistic to happen even with our laws to uphold the value of freedome and life. In Zootopia a modern society that uses cars and phone whould've never came to be. Zistopia just doesn't feel realistic if you think about all that would've transpired during their evolution of thousands of years for the to be STILL so paranoid about predators

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IronBeagle93 [2018-12-23 01:17:04 +0000 UTC]

A very detailed and in-depth look at how Zootopia came to fruition. Great job!! 

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RobertFiddler In reply to IronBeagle93 [2018-12-25 09:10:14 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much!

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ColonelArbuckle [2018-12-22 21:25:58 +0000 UTC]

This is very well composed and very well thought out. I don't think I've ever seen such a comprehensive description of the process of how Zootopia came to be, and it's fascinating to read! Thank you and good work on this, Fiddler!

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RobertFiddler In reply to ColonelArbuckle [2018-12-26 11:29:27 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much! I'm glad you found it a good read!

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Qalcove [2018-12-22 00:30:05 +0000 UTC]

This is a very in-depth analysis of the scrapped storylines and plots the team considered. It's especially interesting to see the progression of the characters and their importance to the story. It's SO awesome that you took the time to create this - thank you!

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RobertFiddler In reply to Qalcove [2018-12-25 09:07:49 +0000 UTC]

Thank you Qal! I'm glad you like it! I felt like I learned a lot about writing and worldbuilding by listening to the interviews and the documentaries about the making of Zootopia, and hoped a little summary like this could help with others too!

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Qalcove In reply to RobertFiddler [2018-12-25 12:58:49 +0000 UTC]

It was terribly interesting, thank you!

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ReaderNo31142 [2018-12-21 18:52:35 +0000 UTC]

A nice little summary you got here, sir


And those artworks look fantastic

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RobertFiddler In reply to ReaderNo31142 [2018-12-25 09:04:58 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! Glad you like it!

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Cambion-Hunter [2018-12-21 15:45:02 +0000 UTC]

Awesome work on both the art and the summation of older Zootopia plot ideas, man.

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RobertFiddler In reply to Cambion-Hunter [2018-12-25 09:04:33 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much!

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Cambion-Hunter In reply to RobertFiddler [2018-12-25 17:58:51 +0000 UTC]

You are quite welcome, Robert.

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Xerval89 [2018-12-21 15:42:47 +0000 UTC]

Végre!
Le a kalappal, hogy összeszedted mindezen infókat Igen hosszú utat tettek meg a Zootopia filmmel.
A Nick-kém Judy-operátorról tán nem is olvastam csak képet láttam. Főleg nagyon meglepő lenne, ha ez a "4 alternatív zootopia" Szereplők találkozunának valahol egy történetben. XD
Szép munka, mind a rajzban mind a kutatómunkában!

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RobertFiddler In reply to Xerval89 [2018-12-25 09:04:19 +0000 UTC]

Nagyon köszönöm! Örülök, hogy tetszik! Igen, érdekes lenne egy találkozás, a hasonlóságaik ellenére nagyon különböző karakterek lehettek!

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VirtualSonic1731 [2018-12-21 15:13:15 +0000 UTC]

interesting article i must say and i see that you made a good job in give it a quality more appropiate for a magazine than for a simple fan art, hehe, and that considering that in this article tends to show how Zootopia evolved since their original conceptions to the concept that finished being the movie and that besides tends to being the origin of some Alternative Universes of Zootopia and some of the characters that only they could to being simple character concepts, but the fans has given different personalities, the which they tend to show the potential that they could to offer in case of these they could to have an other opportunity for a sequel, while we see how the fandom tends to fill the void that generally tends to don't being filled and with that, these characters they don't finish in the forget, hehe, well, good job i must say friend and i like the new format that you show with this article, hehe

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RobertFiddler In reply to VirtualSonic1731 [2018-12-25 09:02:25 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much! Indeed, this progress of development is really educational for amatuer writers like myself about not just world building but characteristaion! I'm glad you like the format in which I arranged this little research!

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LordEldridge [2018-12-21 09:45:55 +0000 UTC]

Okay the agent and switchboard operator storyline I did not know. I always just assumed that the artwork were actually part of the Wilde times storyline (or better known as Zistopia). Learn something new everyday. Interestingly I’ve seen some AU where Nick was a spy but never with Judy as an Operator though. Most of the time she’s still a cop.

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RobertFiddler In reply to LordEldridge [2018-12-25 08:59:25 +0000 UTC]

Indeed, I don't remember where I heard it first, maybe from the documentary that Judy first was meant to do a big mass-job in the city. That was still in the draws where "The Burrows" was a district of the city the same way Tundra Town aor Sahara Square. It's really interesting to think how the characters evolved, their motivations changed with the map while they still stayed relatively the same characters.

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JediDude23 [2018-12-21 09:13:52 +0000 UTC]

Do you have all the drawings you did for this as their own posts?

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RobertFiddler In reply to JediDude23 [2018-12-25 08:55:14 +0000 UTC]

I do have them, I'll be happy to share them as soon as I can, maybe later this week

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sangenjin [2018-12-21 08:54:36 +0000 UTC]

Now the mystery of where Savage and Skye came from is resolved, as for the wild times story line, Zootopia would not have worked as a title due to its dark nature, the European title was for Zootopia was Zootropolis which reminds me more of Metropolis, (not DC superman) a dystopian works and doesn't really fit with the released works, this would probably have fit Wilde times better. Maybe it might not have worked but I've seen plenty of comics that have and still wish for more.

Overall Thanks for sharing.

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RobertFiddler In reply to sangenjin [2018-12-25 08:52:43 +0000 UTC]

I wasn't really aware that Jack and Skye were a mystery. Skye sorta, as she never was officially confirmed, but Jack is certainly mentioned in a lot of interviews and I think even in the documentary. Yeah, it's Zootropolis in my country too, but that renaming was only due to legal issues, since there is an english Rockband with the name Zootopia, I think.


Thanks! Glad you liked it!

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lettup [2018-12-21 05:13:08 +0000 UTC]

Very great info! Thanks for sharing it.

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TorturedArtist745 [2018-12-21 03:58:44 +0000 UTC]

The story behind the making of the movie is just as interesting as the movie itself.

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stephen51991 [2018-12-21 02:08:01 +0000 UTC]

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PyroNapalm [2018-12-21 01:33:23 +0000 UTC]

I've known for a while that Disney tends to steal ideas from other places and claim it as their own. But I was very hoping that Zootopia wasn't the case. Now with a development process like this, its without a doubt that byron and rich truly did make a new original story. Even if there are similarities with another movie, it is all just coincidental. 

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Lost-One-60 [2018-12-21 01:23:42 +0000 UTC]

Awesome concepts.
I'm curious to see which is most popular

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Quinkenguard [2018-12-21 00:55:25 +0000 UTC]

Really hard to choose for Bryan and Rick. They're all very fresh ideas.

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raichmann [2018-12-20 23:57:34 +0000 UTC]

I would love to see all this movies, even if they had very different styles

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