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Rosengeist — Pieta by-nc-nd

Published: 2008-05-14 02:24:33 +0000 UTC; Views: 388; Favourites: 2; Downloads: 5
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Description For my money there are few ideas in the world of art more beautiful and tender than that of the "Pieta". The Pieta refers to a scene in which Mary holds her dead son in her hands. It is not something which has been done with much frequency in modern times, but which was heavily popular during the late Medieval and Rennaisannce period. Michelangelo's version, which is probably the most well known version of this particular theme, is one of the pieces in all of art hisotry that I find the most touching and sincere. I don't like all of Michelangelo's work (it's o.k to say that right? I mean he couldn't sculpt or paint a realistic woman to save his life.) But this work makes him a master in my eyes.

O.k, so that's really sentimental and gooey, but this is a fantastic piece. I only sketched out the Christ figure, but really Mary completes it. I urge you to go check it out.

Look I'll even provide you with a link, now you have NO excuses
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This sight has some lovely examples of Pieta's from other artists, periods and cultures and gives a nice, brief explanation of what a Pieta is.
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The Pieta as an idea is in the public domain, but this specific one belongs to the estate of Michelangelo, if there even is one. Someone (me) should look into that.
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RustedUrsa [2008-07-30 21:10:19 +0000 UTC]

Did you know that Mary is almost never portrayed in a realistic proportion to Jesus in a Pieta? (Because of the problems inherent in cradling a grown man in your arms.) Like, if Michelangelo's Mary stood up, she'd be about nine feet tall to Jesus' six.

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Rosengeist In reply to RustedUrsa [2008-07-30 22:27:38 +0000 UTC]

Yep, my art hsitory prof's almost always rbing that up whenever this piece comes about. Actually, the reasons Michelangelo's is so famous in art history is that he was able to solve one of the biggest problems, namely, how do you get him on that lap without making the smaller statue of Mary supporting fall apart. He did this by making her robes so huge and voluminous that they created a support system. However, she's still garantuan under that robe, her arms are ridiculously long, but the fabric's draping helps to minimalize the effect to the point where thestatue reads in the human mind as physically possible.

If you really want to get into freaking wierd art anatomy go check out Ingre's "Grand Odalisque" [link] . The neck, back, and legs are physically impossible. Hell that girl would probably break her kneck just looking down. (However Ingre did manipulate anatomy for a legitimate reason, he wasn't just painting and messing up as a lot of people suggest).

Equally disturbing in terms of anatomy and ickitude) "The Isenheim Alterpiece" [link]
But, as disturbing as that image may be, the theory behind why Jesus was painted in such a horrible condition is, I think, rather touching. The altarpiece was made for a hospital church where lepers were being treated. Jesus was meant to look a like a leper to remind the patients that they would also reach salvation one day, and that they were still God's Children. At least, that's what my art history professor told us.

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RustedUrsa In reply to Rosengeist [2008-07-30 22:37:10 +0000 UTC]

See, if I'd painted either of those, it would probably be because I messed up. Though, to be honest, I have rarely scene an anatomically correct Crucifixion that wasn't totally bland. It makes a much stronger statement when the body is all messed up.

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Rosengeist In reply to RustedUrsa [2008-07-31 00:27:19 +0000 UTC]

Ah, ha! Found it! Honestly, for my money, those little holes in the hands and feet are much more terrifying and sad than any blood drenched image of crucifiction I've seen. [link]

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RustedUrsa In reply to Rosengeist [2008-07-31 15:22:36 +0000 UTC]

Wow. Yeah, that is pretty powerful. That's pretty much the same view I had of my grandfather when he was dying.

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Rosengeist In reply to RustedUrsa [2008-07-31 15:35:03 +0000 UTC]

Oh wow, I'm sorry, I hope I didn't stir up any painful emotions

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RustedUrsa In reply to Rosengeist [2008-07-31 15:37:20 +0000 UTC]

Actually, he only died last night, so I'm still numb. Painful emotions will probably happen later.

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Rosengeist In reply to RustedUrsa [2008-07-31 15:41:17 +0000 UTC]

Oh my gosh, are you o.k Liz? I probably shouldn't ask that, I know it hurts to lose people you love. If I had known what happened I wouldn't have launched into creepy crucifiction talk yesterday.

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RustedUrsa In reply to Rosengeist [2008-07-31 15:51:32 +0000 UTC]

I'm fine, actually. Nobody knew the end was so close when we started this chat. It kind of all went down in the last eight or ten hours. He was in the hospital, but nobody knew... the treatment wasn't going to take, I guess. I don't know why I haven't cried yet. I guess I'm still waiting for it to hit.

Just as well. I fully expect my mother or my little sister to fall apart first. I'd rather be in control right now and feel it later when I know they're okay.

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Rosengeist In reply to RustedUrsa [2008-07-31 15:55:52 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry Liz. Your welcome to just note me if you need to talk to anyone.

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RustedUrsa In reply to Rosengeist [2008-07-31 15:56:43 +0000 UTC]

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Rosengeist In reply to RustedUrsa [2008-07-30 22:59:12 +0000 UTC]

I can't find my faveorite on line quite yet, but as soon as I do I'll send it too you. Doesn't even have a cross in it!

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arrogant-frog [2008-05-14 06:54:51 +0000 UTC]

perfect sketch. didn't need to read the title to recognise what it is in real. :3 but i think you should finish it. :>

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Rosengeist In reply to arrogant-frog [2008-05-15 05:16:03 +0000 UTC]

I think I should too I'll have to get on that, thank you for your kind words

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susieecool [2008-05-14 03:05:46 +0000 UTC]

I love your version more than the original, though the original is beautiful. You've captured more of a human feeling, and I like it.

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Rosengeist In reply to susieecool [2008-05-14 03:13:38 +0000 UTC]

T_T Ah, thank you. I'm not sure what to say to something as sweet as that <

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Fallingfreely [2008-05-14 02:51:01 +0000 UTC]

I love that sculpture. interesting drawing of it.

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Rosengeist In reply to Fallingfreely [2008-05-14 03:09:39 +0000 UTC]

Thank you kindly

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artisticmaster [2008-05-14 02:42:47 +0000 UTC]

I've always loved the Pieta. Seriously.

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Rosengeist In reply to artisticmaster [2008-05-14 03:09:19 +0000 UTC]

It is su an endearing piece isn't it? Glad to find a fellow fan

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Farbjous [2008-05-14 02:34:58 +0000 UTC]

Me thought it was Adam in the final scene in BatB. Me sowwy. ;_;

*High fives.* THANK YOU.
I mean, for real, Michelangelo wasn’t really that great of a painter as everyone makes him out. There where other painters and sculptures in his time that where WWWAAAAYYYY better than him. And don’t get me started on how he depilated women. Just the same old, same old, delicate faced women with bulking men’s bodies. @_@
Plus, he was a pussy.

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Rosengeist In reply to Farbjous [2008-05-14 03:08:53 +0000 UTC]

Is o.k, Glen Keane did base Adam off of Michelangelo and Rueben sculptures, (which imho is part of why I think he's so beautiful). So you get cookies for being close

He was GREAT at doing attractive, muscle bound men, I mean just look at David, who isn't attracted too that? But sometimes he takes it a bit too far and they end up looking like Arnold Schwarzeneggers in his prime on steroids eating beef. In all likelihood, he probably never once saw a naked woman, being gay and nudity being a big taboo outside of art at the time, but still, his women look like male bodies with the crotches cut away and two nastylumps of fat thumped on the chest. The Pieta suprises me as a work of his because 1.) Jesus is a thin, lithe male who is more vulnerable than sensual and 2.) Mary actually looks like a woman.

You crack me up with your "plus he was a puss!" thing.

I'll tell you though, Raphael and Caravagio man! Two dudes who could paint like sons of a guns and knew how to party like a rock star! Well a classically trained Rennaissance and (Can't remember Caraagio's date range) artists but eh'.

Leonardo was pretty cool too. If only because he could actually paint women, and because he showed up in "Ever After".

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Farbjous In reply to Rosengeist [2008-05-14 20:15:04 +0000 UTC]

YAAA!!! Coo- wait… I just made some cookies…

I don’t know what the mans problem with painting naked women was. I mean, its not like he couldn’t hire a hooker or something to pose nude for him, but gees man! Not every woman looks like they belong to Muscular Venuses League. *Really… Those chicks freak me out. O_O *Shivers.**
And he could of a least figured it out, I know they wore lots of clothing back then, but Miccy, you could of figured it out. *Shakes her head in shame.* Guess with Pitea, he briefly came to the realization of what a woman looked like.
Then, forgot after words. @_@

Well, he was. =3

I have some notes up stairs on Caravagios date range. But, I’m to lazy to look at them. *Sips some water.* But damn, that guy wasn’t afraid to experiment!
Plus, finding the lazy way out from painting a whole bunch of stuff, when you only wanted to paint one thing.

Aaaahh… Ever After… You had to be a freak not to love Leonardos floating boots!

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Rosengeist In reply to Farbjous [2008-05-15 05:15:26 +0000 UTC]

Well, who doesn't love cookies. You can just cookie it forward (bad "Pay it Forward" joke....)

Seriously I mean he could have even painted or sculpted in the style of other painters. I mean, he would have seen ancient Grecian statues of nude women. It always just feels strange. Maybe he just liked them wierd. I dunno'. I think the Pieta is succesful because he only did her hands and face. I mean, he could do female hands and faces pretty well.

Yeah, me either. I know he came after Da Vinci and those guys. Actually he might just be considered a Baroque artist. I mean he's after DaVinci but before Artemesia Gentileschi, I know that much.

One trick pony! Musclar, superhero one-trick pony!

Yeaaaahhhhh, and his whole "Yes, I'm brilliant, I will go down in history as the man who opened a door!" bit.

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Farbjous In reply to Rosengeist [2008-05-17 03:48:28 +0000 UTC]

*Has eaten to many cookies now.* @_@ Uuuuuggghhh… Cookies… You have betrayed me…

I still could find out when Carva painted…
But, the stairs are to long…

Dude, every time I have a question on what Da Vinci is famous for, I write down that quote. Because its just so true. ^_^

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Rosengeist In reply to Farbjous [2008-05-20 04:56:54 +0000 UTC]

Don't die Ninny! I think we have to amputate!

Ah, is all right, I know he's after DaVinci and before Gentileschi and that's good enough.

It is true. True hence, funny, funy hence, true.

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narutobi4real [2008-05-14 02:27:16 +0000 UTC]

nice! yay Jesus!!

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Rosengeist In reply to narutobi4real [2008-05-14 02:29:12 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! Yeah Jesus! Yeah Pieta!

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