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rubberduck3y6 β Alternate Colonial Africa
Published: 2011-01-24 19:49:24 +0000 UTC; Views: 17073; Favourites: 133; Downloads: 113
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An alternate colonisation of Africa as IMO Africa doesn't get enough attention in AH. There's no real story behind this, just what I felt looked right/cool.Related content
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Very cool idea. In which year is it set? And how would this different distribution of land affect the relationships between the European powers?
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The year is probably about 1900 after the European powers have divided Africa up amongst themselves but before they've had time to go to war with each other.
I'd think that Britain might not be too happy with France and Portugal meaning they've got no chance of building a Cape-Cairo railway or making the Indian Ocean into a British lake.
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German Natal... I just noticed that. How'd that happened?
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I think Natal might survive with a large German settler population. Those two Boer states might unite.
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Like I said, there wasn't much of a story behind the map, but I did think that the Germans and to a lesser extent the Portuguese in southeastern Africa supported the Boer states against the British.
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The Boer states are buffer states. Good idea. Keeps em alive.
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But not of your Ethiopian...
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Well not for those under the thumb of Europa... but I suppose if this has happened it'd be more stable than our world's correlating geographic area.
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Finally a world in which the Pink Map works out:
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Thanks for this!
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That's what I based Portuguese Africa on.
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I guess Napoleon was more successful in this timeline if Egypt is French, right?
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Yeah, I kinda started from a French Egypt and did the rest of the map from there.
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Still, it's pretty professional.
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Thanks, I tried to make it internally consistent/plausible.
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I see. And it's also on the Map Thread. Nice work there too!
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King Leopold II: It's too small!!!
Belgium: It is not, it's already too large!!!
(Belgium didn't want to have a colony)
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He didn't view them as human and they were treated very cruely in the process. He did indeed want to hurt people, because he saw them as barely above animals to work on rubber plantations. I don't blame modern Belgians... but don't sugar coat a monster.
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I'm not sugar coating a monster. I'm stating why this person, with his cold heart and thirst for importance and wealth would not have been perceived the same if you replace the Congo with a smaller area that was poorer and didn't have the natural rubber reserves. People are very much shaped by their surroundings. Likewise, take two things away from Leopold, his visit to the construction on the Suez Canal, where he first saw what a large quantity of laborers could achieve and the book "Money", about the Cultuurstelsel in Java, from which he derived his forced labour idea, you'd have a very different Leopold II. Likewise if Hitler had never gone to the circles in ViennaΒ where he picked up antisemitism and had he been an accomplished artist, he would have had local and moderate fame as a painter, but not world fame as a mass murderer.
This is not sugarcoating, it's an exercise in agency.
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Yeah I'm sorry I saw your Belgian flag I thought you might be, and think I blamed your country somehow. Im an American, I loathe that our money has slave owners and native killers on it.
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Hed still be a horrible tyrant to its people
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Not really, Leopold wasn't tyrannical because he wanted to hurt people, but because he wanted to make as much profit from the Congolese rubber as he could. Take all that away and he would have pulled out very quickly, selling the land to France, probably. The people who lived under his rule would have noticed some degree of alien infrastructure, but not too much. Leopold's Free State was never a strong or well developed government.Β
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I didn't know that! Makes sense though.
King Leopold II will have to be content with his small slice of Guinea ITTL!
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Interesting, looks like the British and French switched colonies.
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