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Vexilogic [2022-06-13 22:47:16 +0000 UTC]
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elusivexeno [2017-12-23 08:10:06 +0000 UTC]
I just want to say that this map has gotten me fallen in love(in detached AHfan spectator kind of way) with the idea of Heinleinian Military Junta. I wonder if the emergence of this hard-military libertarian of this world will be covered later.
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BrentAtticus [2017-08-20 09:00:07 +0000 UTC]
What font do you use for the notes?
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QuantumBranching [2017-08-03 08:39:23 +0000 UTC]
Interestingly very different. Kudos to you and Mattystereo.
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EmperorOfMing [2017-07-30 17:11:02 +0000 UTC]
The Second Empress for China huh? Besides I guess every country embraces constitutionalism to varying degrees?
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gatemonger [2017-07-29 23:38:11 +0000 UTC]
I find fascinating the POD whereby a shift within West Africa manages to ripple up to the European metropoles. With no direct challenge to Europe from North America, I love how decolonization is set in motion by a Black Swan event here. One would normally think the Europeans would simply shift around their alliances and reconstitute their empires when the moment arose, but here the system just elegantly spirals out from a surprisingly potent shift.
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Mattystereo In reply to PinkJenkin [2017-07-30 04:21:42 +0000 UTC]
I might add "quirky physicist" to my contact card now.
Yeah, like I was saying to Void-Wolf I held back on religion because I wasn't sure how people would react to this kind of piece. With this feedback though I will confirm that I WILL do a separate update dedicated to religious culture in this world. So fear not, citizen!
You don't give yourself enough credit. The underlying assumptions and methods of thought we, as cultures and people, employ are frighteningly complex and are the legacy of both our own ancestors and the choices we make as people. I have no doubt someone from an "alien" timeline would find your life and mind as deep and complex as you would find theirs.
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RvBOMally In reply to PinkJenkin [2017-07-30 01:44:17 +0000 UTC]
DeviantArt's most quirkily creative nuclear physicist delivers yet again. But I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed we barely got anything about the religions of this world. If notions of cultural sovereignty and questions of gender identity cross national borders and underline the social conflicts of this timeline, I can only imagine that religion is even more of an important topic of discussion and arbitration than in OTL.He told me this was an experimental style for these sort of scenarios, and I like it so much I might do it for future scenarios. I'm sure Mattystereo will be more than happy to answer religion questions.
I have a sneaking suspicion that the "Imperialists win the Great War" timeline is written by RvBOMally. Genocidal bastards is more your cup of tea.I did have plans for my own take on the communist CSA trope, with the CSA being North Korea-esque and the USA being the racist authoritarians that the CSA usually is. Maybe that could be an alternate of this alternate?
Whenever I read a Mattystereo Production (tm), I get the feeling that the inhabitants of his worlds are unrealistically complex, intelligent and philosophically-minded, what with their guiding ideologies and ways of thought being so subtle and queerly rational. But I guess an outside observer could find our own dumb political nonsense fascinating and complex, and that it only appears obvious and straightforward to me due to home blindness.They're certainly more "alien" than mine, where people tend to be motivated by the pursuit of power or are complete ideologues. The most I do is play around with alternate ideologies. I'm admittedly not very creative when it comes to alternate philosophies, religions and cultures. Lots of secular totalitarians in my corner of the multiverse. But I am always open to ideas on that front!
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HCAOC [2017-07-29 22:08:34 +0000 UTC]
I just want to say I appreciate your doing EEUSG worlds/covers of other peoples' regional maps, especially one with a premise not often seen, and the attention given to technology. They're at the very least a breath of fresh air compared to your ultra-Hell dystopias of doom.
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tankman987 [2017-07-29 13:17:35 +0000 UTC]
Just a question, how was there no Berlin conference ITTL? Also, how did the Afro Reconciliationists win the Great War? You said that Portugal and France were the leaders of this bloc so how could they stand up to the Combined power of Britain, Spain, and Germany with them having to fight a multifront war? Still a great and unique scenario tho.
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Mattystereo In reply to tankman987 [2017-07-29 15:52:58 +0000 UTC]
The Berlin Conference was the perfect storm of the work of the International Congo Society in Central Africa's, the support (and really initialization by Portugal) of talks RE Africa between the European Powers, the decline of Dutch power on the continent compared to Belgium German desires to ease French and British concerns RE German expeditions, and a general understanding between the French and British Port Societies. All of that collapses here two decades before talks on the idea of a conference even starts. As such Africa continues much the way it had before the conference, with various overlapping Euro-African Alliances and port authorities competing with one another. Meanwhile the gestation of the West African Imperial System (which had been aborted by the European Wars in West Africa in the 1870s and 80s) comes into full, fully nixing the potential of any coherent and unified European Policy RE Africa.
The Great War was more Britain-Germany-Spain (with Spain the most tenuous) versus Portugal-France-West Africa-Ottomans-United States-Indian and Chinese Volunteers. I've been thinking of doing a side-update focused entirely on the war, so that might be coming soon.
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Whiteshore1 [2017-07-29 08:49:27 +0000 UTC]
Is the dynasty which provides the monarch of Hungary the Hapsburgs or some local aristocrats? Also, is the "Kingdom of Manchuria" essentially a rump Qing Empire which gave up all claims to the rest of China.
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Mattystereo In reply to Whiteshore1 [2017-07-29 16:03:32 +0000 UTC]
Honestly, dunno. The exact nature of Post-Communist Eastern Europe was always more tenuous in my head so I left that up to RvBOMally and ToixStory to decide.
That was essentially the idea, but personally I had an aesthetic reason behind it as well. I REALLY like Tang borders and have always wanted to play with the idea of a restored "native" monarchy roughly the shape of the Tang.
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UraniumUtopia [2017-07-29 02:33:30 +0000 UTC]
What's the US like?
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PachPachis [2017-07-28 18:47:21 +0000 UTC]
The Ottoman Empire joining "Anti-Imperial" or "Anti-Imperialist" blocs is my favorite ironic mini-trope. I know those blocs usually mean European imperialism, but still.
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elusivexeno In reply to PachPachis [2017-07-28 23:17:37 +0000 UTC]
To be fair, the Ottomans really were victims of European imperialism and imposed capitulations.
So was China.
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PachPachis In reply to elusivexeno [2017-07-29 00:14:05 +0000 UTC]
Oh, absolutely, it's just the immediate disconnect in the naming that's funny to me. We have something similar in OTL, where the group "Anti-Imperialist Action" has adopted the Russian Imperial Eagle as part of their symbol.
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RvBOMally In reply to PachPachis [2017-07-28 20:40:54 +0000 UTC]
I find it a great example of how these blocs are really more about power.
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PachPachis In reply to RvBOMally [2017-07-29 00:14:28 +0000 UTC]
I personally like to have each "Republican League" or whatever have at least one Kingdom.
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Whiteshore1 In reply to PachPachis [2018-07-25 11:28:41 +0000 UTC]
Well, it makes sense in timelines where "Republican" is a synonym/TTL's term for "democratic" or "liberal".
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BadgingBadger [2017-07-28 15:49:41 +0000 UTC]
Why is Greece turkish again?
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Mattystereo [2017-07-28 15:13:42 +0000 UTC]
Thanks man! You always do a great and swift job on covers that I often find myself needing to catch up, which is fun in its own way. This was also a rather nice pick-me-up in the middle of a thoroughly frustrating week on base, so I really appreciate it.
I noticed a screw up in my writeup. I always miss a few no matter how hard I try. I meant to write "The Sepoy Rebellion", but it came out as "They Sepoy Rebellion."
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briwd [2017-07-28 15:13:35 +0000 UTC]
What's going on in Tennessee and North Carolina?
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Mattystereo In reply to briwd [2017-07-28 15:23:15 +0000 UTC]
General fuckery during the collapse of the CSA and the American Wars. I dislike cutting up the USA on state borders.
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briwd In reply to Mattystereo [2017-07-30 00:41:46 +0000 UTC]
A no-man's land then, or the buffer state(s) between the US and Southron Republic?
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InfernoMole [2017-07-28 14:57:19 +0000 UTC]
What are the Wobo and Mbodic genders?
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Mattystereo In reply to InfernoMole [2017-07-28 15:04:11 +0000 UTC]
They're semi-masculine neutered genders, roughly similar to the "demiboy", however they have an established system of roles for their gender that are rooted in traditional Congolese and Horn African cultures.
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InfernoMole In reply to Mattystereo [2017-07-28 15:12:26 +0000 UTC]
Some other questions I wanted to ask:
1. What are, exactly, Citizens' Republics, and how one becomes anti-citizen?
2. How does the *Russian populace/government feel about the gender/sexuality norms in this world?
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Mattystereo In reply to InfernoMole [2017-07-28 15:22:34 +0000 UTC]
They're inspired by Heinlein's idea of doing away with the distinction between civil and martial society. Essentially they are enlightened military juntas that support and subsidize an otherwise free and libertarian leaning society through a massive military-civil complex, and which extend a social safety net inside the libertarian system to those who "serve" within the system. Everyone has a vote and everyone can participate in the free market, but those who serve are given weighted votes and government assistance. These societies as a result have extremely bloated militaries and in many cases can come across as "Prussian" at first glance.
The government is officially in support, owing largely to desires to integrate into the European System, and as part of a backlash to the Communist Era, which was far more staunchly rigid and patriarchal than OTL due to their opposition to the Four Corners. The average man on the street though? Well, it varies of course.
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Void-Wolf [2017-07-28 14:07:15 +0000 UTC]
This... this is definitely one of the bestly-crafted worlds because of how unique it is, especially when taking the different cultural norms and so on that have risen as a result. Simply superb
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Mattystereo In reply to Void-Wolf [2017-07-28 15:07:52 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! I've been experimenting with focusing more on sociology and related subjects when constructing worlds, as opposed to the usual focus on political blocs. I wasn't sure how well this would be received and so I held back a little bit (I had ideas for a religion section as well, focusing a lot on the rise of Global Methodism and nationally subsidized "traditional spiritualties" a la modern China), but I'm excited to see how people respond.
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Void-Wolf In reply to Mattystereo [2017-07-28 18:42:31 +0000 UTC]
It's really awesome and I would love to work on some stuff with you! Definitely unique
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