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Breezepaw and Crowfeather éwéCrowfeather deserves a medal for the worst father ever *claps*
Both characters are from the book series Warrior cats by Erin Hunter
Fan art is by me
program: Clip Studio Paint EX
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Awwww!!! They look so happy and cute together.
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This actually reminds me of the relationship between Crookedkit and Rainflower!! FANTASTIC drawing BTW!!!!
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Crowfeather is worst father
Rainflower is wost mother
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Oh my, this really stirs what little pity I felt for Breezepaw during the series... He would have been a different cat if his father hadn't neglected him :/
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Crowfeather is literally the worst dad and mate in the entire series...and this is the series where a guy spent his ENTIRE lifetime with a devoted mate and daughters and yet spent all of it AND after, openly pining over that chick he had a crush on when he was a kid.
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Crowfeather is both the worst father ever AND the worst mate ever to Nightcloud. He's just an asshole. Losing Feathertail and Leafpool made him a bitter little bastard.
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Lmao, victims? No. Crowfeather only took Nightcloud as a mate to prove his loyalty to his Clan. He didn't love her, and Nightcloud didn't deserve that.
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Yeah, you said Crowfeather was a victim. And he wasn't.
Also..my comment is 3 years old. I really don't care that much lmao
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Nah. She loved him and she thought he loved her back. She wasn't using him for anything. She thought it was mutual.
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ok i don't care i'm not arguing with you about this. these are fictional cats, jfc
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...Yeah, and I said Crowfeather wasn't.
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lmao you can't change my mind
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I agree fully. I mean come on, he's worse than Spiderleg. He's the reason Breezepelt almost killed Jayfeather and Poppyfrost at the Moon Pool. But tbh I wouldn't kill just because I was mad.
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Do not forget that it was partially Nightcloud's fault to let their(her and Crowfeathers) quarrels influence Breezepelt.
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Breezepelt had no other reason than himself. He's his own cat, and Crowfeather didn't ask him to attack them.
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Actually now that I think if that your statement makes much more sense..
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Crowfeather was still a jerk XD
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Crowfeather only wanted to show his loyality to Windclan...he didn't really care about Nightloud nor Breezepelt e,e
if Crowfeather wasn't that stupid and he would actually care about him, Breezepelt wouldn't even try to kill another cats
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It's hard to be there for someone when you don't love them, or didn't want to be with them in the first place. I don't blame Crowfeather for not wanting to be near his "family" because I know it's hard to feel affection for someone you don't like.
Breezepelt, on the other hand, didn't need to harm anyone. He didn't need to act on those evil intentions, no matter what his upbringing was. He is his own cat, his own living being. It wasn't as is Crowfeather told him "Go hurt a medicine cat and a queen and I will acknowledge that you're my family." Breezepelt was a warrior, an adult, and could've made his own decisions by himself. He chose to follow the dark forest to seek attention, and Crowfeather never intended for Breezepelt to grow up to hurt anybody.
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That's absolutely true uWu
but there's still reason why he acted like that...a warrior raised from a normal family that loved him would never hurt someone. I know it's Breezepelt's fault that he wanted to hurt someone, he didn't really need to, he would've chose other path than Dark forest..
at least Crowfeather convinced him to leave the final battle between Dark forest and the warrior Clans =w=
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A warrior raised from a normal family could certainly hurt someone. Thistleclaw had a loving mother and father and still joined the dark forest because he let himself be manipulated by the evil cats that resided there. Breezepelt was emotionally weak and desperate for the attention, that's why he gave into the Dark Forest.
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Thistleclaw's sister died and his mate. Plus, Bluestar was keeping his son from him. Also the Dark Forest makes people mad the longer they stay there.
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Bluestar wasn't really keeping Thistleclaw's son away from him. He admitted that his son wasn't as ambitious as himself, he also had an apprentice to train and couldn't spend as much time with his son as he wanted to.
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I wouldn't say Crowfeather was a bad father
Like spiderleg I'd say he didn't want to be one
And distanced himself
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Then they shouldn't have been one.
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Apparently Nightcloud really wanted to have kits, which is why (or at least, a big part of why) she became Crowfeather's mate. For all we know, maybe he really didn't want kits but Night pressured him into it, or just surprised him one day with her pregnancy.
I might be wrong here, but I'm sure that somewhere it was mentioned that Night spoiled Breezepelt a lot. So he probably just had bad parents all around. I can't comprehend how he and Heathertail get along lol
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Yeah, poor Nightcloud though.
But I understand, though it seems that she wants his (Crowfeather's) affection a lot.
Yeah, there are hints everywhere in the books soo....
I don't particularly think he and Heather are a good couple but I'm glad emo Breezepelt got SOME redemption. Though I'll never like him, I kind of respect him.
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I don't know, it's hard to tell. Cuz some books say one thing, then others say something else, then character interactions say entirely different things lol I myself just think that Night, out of desperation for kits, forced herself to love Crow and he tried to love (or at least like) him too. Then she had a kit, Crow didn't terribly care for him and she in turn spoiled Breeze, creating the angry cat who tried to kill everyone for revenge...
I can't decide yet what I think of him. I'm rereading Omen of the Star (on Night Whispers), and at the moment I really, heavily dislike him. To the point that I don't see how he can be redeemed at all (plus, none of the books explain how he redeemed himself. If A Vision of Shadows has, I'm not there yet). As much as Crow bothers the living heck out of me at times, I still love the poor guy. He lost two of his loves, one to death and the other due to Clan rules (and she made it look like rejection). Then his next mate, as far as I can tell, sort of just used him for babies... yeah... doesn't change that he was horrible to Breeze though. *hugs all the poor, heartbroken kitties*
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Yeah, like the gender changes. XD
That's what I was thinking.
In the new ones I guess he's okay a little, we don't see much of him tbh.
Yeah, so do I, I gotta like Crow, as much as I also hate him.
Sorry for the late and lack of answer, tired and going through my stuff.
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That's okay!
It's similar to my relationship with Yellowfang - at times I love her, she's so strong and independent. Yet she helped drive StarClan to divide in Omen of the Stars and was too harsh on Leafpool having Crow's kits, which was exceptionally hypocritical. She should of known mistakes can happen to good cats - they won't make the world end!
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I used to like her. I hate the dead her.
"HE ONLY LOVED TOO MUCH!"
Mate, he tried burning 3 kits and killing his leader, wts man?!
THISTLECLAW DID LESS!
Anyway, yes, you are right, especially about the Leaf x Crow thing.
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Oh I don't know about Thistleclaw doing less. He trained in the Dark Forest (learning killing moves), almost had his apprentice kill an innocent kittypet kitten (who later became Scourge), almost killed Oakheart for virtually no reason, plotted to become leader (I don't know if he planned murder of his own clanmates, but he did plan with the Dark Forest to become ThunderClan leader), helped shape Tigerstar into a murderer (Mapleshade also had heavy influence on Tigerstar), and tried to kill two RiverClan warriors (they may have been trespassers, I can't remember) which in turn led to his death.
I actually don't think Ashfur knew Firestar was going to die. He left a fear scent trail, which can't be faked. I think later he boasted about wanting Firestar dead as a way to try and upset Squirrelflight, and also because he was unquestionably mentally unstable (I believe he was heavily depressed after Squirrel dumped him, which she seemed to do with little empathy and right after weeks of claiming she hated Brambleclaw and couldn't be trusted because of his parentage, and on top of that his mother was murdered to feed dogs when he was an apprentice. And no one noticed his mental decline, further pushing him). I'm not saying he's innocent - I do think, had Squirrelflight not said what she did, Ashfur may well have just stood and watched Jay, Holly, and Lion die. But he didn't. And then Holly murdered him in a rather cowardly way - stalking him and then jumping him from behind. I think, with all these factors, he was worthy of StarClan because his mental disorder is what made him do what he did. Yes, Mapleshade was in heavy grieving too, but she killed 3 cats in very brutal ways (though, I wish she had gone to StarClan myself). Ashfur seems like he's back to his very old self in StarClan, no longer depressed and insane.
Sorry about that little, I guess "rant" ^^' I just love Ashfur, and as I come across more and more people hating him, I've gone out of my way to really look into his character, think about the things he says and does, the things he's been through... to me, while he's not innocent, he's not guilty enough for StarClan. I think the Clans need a "grey-area" afterlife, where you're too good for the Dark Forest but not good enough for StarClan.
Good gosh, I just CAN NOT stand it when Yellowfang talks about Leaf and Crow. It drives me so mad. I just read a scene where she claims that what Leaf did was so wrong, even StarClan doesn't have the power to make her a medicine cat again. Like, excuse me? You not only had a kit against the medicine cat code, but freaking gave it to a cat you KNEW wouldn't love it, creating a psychotic murderer! Sit back and be quiet, Yellowfang
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Nah, I still don't like him, he should have gone to the grey area, or been reincarnated or SOMETHING. I doubt he boasted, there was nothing to boast about.
But if you're attempting to justify Ashfur then Hollyleaf:
She...Well... She was just like him.
The Warrior Code was her life! (Squirrelflight)
Then it out-right shattered in front of her, her whole life was a lie! (Getting 'dumped'-even though they were never mates in the first place, at all and he had just completely assumed that because she was being nice to him, because she needed a friend and a shoulder to cry on, that they were.)
She panicked and did something stupid, resulting in a death (He panicked and TRIED to kill multiple cats)
She felt extremely guilty after. (We are never shown that he has)
She had a chance to redeem herself, which she did, she saved Ivypool's life! If it hadn't been for her then one of my favourite cats would have died! (He... He never did redeem himself, did he?)
As you can see we have completely different views on the other cats.
Besides, at least some-cat valued the Warrior Code, no one else seemed to.
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I enjoyed all of Holly's flaws, they sound like something I'd do (minus the killing).
Exactly! At least Leafpool had the decency to give it to a cat that would love them and keep them safe and cared for and stuff. Goodness, Yellow was SO moody! She LIED to Squirrelflight because she wanted Squirrel to take the kits, devastating Squirrel and practically FORCING her to take kits that she didn't particularly want.
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I'm not trying to justify them, I'm trying to explain his character and thought process (my boyfriend has some pretty bad mental issues - depression and anxiety for certain - so I guess I just get more defensive than necessary. I find there's still heavy stigmas around brain illnesses). I also adore Jayfeather, but I am well aware that he is a short-tempered, grumpy boy ^^ I HATED Hollyleaf until she came back in Omen of the Stars (and I started to like her in Hollyleaf's Story, when she started to grow up and see things in more than just black-and-white). Once she came back, she just seemed so much more... I guess like-able? For me, at least. She wasn't obsessing over the warrior code like she did before (as if going against it would end the world... she questioned bringing the sick cats to the abandoned twoleg nest because the code said nothing about it. That's a bit extreme to me). She seemed like a different cat, yet still the same. I'm rereading the whole series, and I'm onto The Forgotten Warrior now. It's been a while, and I forgot how much I loved her now that she's back 
I'm not fond of Squirrelflight (I will never get over how she treated Brambleclaw throughout the second and third series), and in fact I wish Brambleclaw had become mates with Jessie - they just seemed far more compatible. But I did feel for her, and though I love Brambleclaw I can't agree with how he acted as though Squirrelflight basically didn't exist. She did what was best for Leafpool (and possibly Holly, Jay, and Lion as well), and like you said, she was lied to by a StarClan cat! I find myself cheering her on whenever she'd tell Lion or Jay off for acting as though them being lied to is the worst thing to ever happen to a cat.
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