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Technically, this IS a backstory. Anyway, it's worth noting I hate Akane. I think she's a huge bitch. Even with the Hentai Horde messing her head up (Yeah, that BS is canon... at the start of the series. Ranma takes them out in one day. They came back in the Sagashiverse.), she's still far too much of a bitch to be likable in my opinion. Ranma may insult her, but she's almost always done something to earn the insult. She's ALWAYS the one to resort to violence.Related content
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Akane? Second-nicest? Excuse me while I go laugh my ass off. I don't agree. at all.
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Ah people who have never read the manga at all are always amusing...please read the manga and forget all the fanfiction that you've read that change the characters to fit the writers preferences.
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...Akane is as noted by the author of Ranma 1/2 as the second nicest character...
Okay, this statement right here makes your entire argument fall apart faster than a building caught in a free-for-all between the Nerima Wrecking Crew, Nuku Nuku AND Poison One. I'll freely admit that Rumiko Takahashi is a very gifted artist. However, her definition of "nice girls" is a bit, shall I say... divorced from reality.
Yes, Ranma is a jerk. This is fact. He's stubborn, prideful, insensitive and more liable to gnaw off his own arm than admit to his own faults. However, he also has a good heart and is always willing to help those in need. He'll willingly throw himself into harms way for complete strangers and the very thought of hurting someone who can't fight back is utterly alien to him. Ranma is a Jerk with a Heart of Gold.
You following me so far? Good. Now here's the catch. Akane is the same way, except for the part of hurting those who can't fight back. She's compassionate and helpful, true, but she's also incredibly insecure, short-tempered and stubborn. As a child she got into fights with others her age and simply never grew out of the habit. Like many Takahashi couples, she's infinitely more likely to hurt Ranma than Ranma is to hurt her. And it doesn't stop at Ranma either.
Think. What happened when Kuno convinced half the boys at school to fight her in the schoolyard? Does she avoid them entirely by entering Furinkan High by one of the many other entrances? No! She brazenly charges the horde and beats the ever loving hell out of them, shouting all the while that they will never defeat her! Violence may not be her first reaction, but it isn't very far down the list. She is, in several ways, a less restrained Ranma.
Now, I'm not saying Akane is a horrible person. That designation goes to her sister Nabiki. I'm simply saying that Akane is nowhere near as pure and innocent as all you manga purists seem to insist. She's flawed. HEAVILY so. Just like the rest of the cast.
To quote Kasumi Tendo, "She's a sweet girl, but a violent maniac"
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I HAVE read the manga. I STILL disagree.
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Hmph I can agree with you on that fact, Akane a nice girl please, she's nice to everyone who is not Ranma, the Entire Kuno family, The Horde and the other girls after ranma; I swear she is dense as hell especially "P-Chan", Ranma maybe a jerk sometimes but he has long done enough to not deserve half of the treatment (Minus the ones he Actually does deserve) from Akane, Hell Kagome was better then Akane in my opinion even when she Sitted the Hell out of Inuyasha when he was actually being concerned for her but that can at least be excusable, I mean she calls him a pervert just because SHE mind you walked in on him in the bath without even knocking in Vol.1 (The only good Tsundere is a dead one, And Asuka)
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Dude, read the Mind-Fracture comment. I'll repeat it here, to quote Kasumi Tendo, "She's a sweet girl, but a violent maniac"
Also, Kagome sitted the crap out of a half-youkai, that is little more than an inconvenience/damage to his pride. And unlike Ranma 1/2, that abuse is actually FUNNY.
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I dead read the comment and while she did have does moment's I will repeat said I dislike Tsundere minus Asuka from Eva, Sakura and Tsunade from Naruto and well that's it, I understand what was posted and already knew the description but Mind-Fracture should have also added quite Naive and sometimes no always seems to act stupidly, I like AkanexRanma but I mostly lean torward RanmaxUkyo and RanmaxKasumi I hate Xian Pu (Shampoo) and Kodachi Kuno with the flames of a Thousand Sun (or is that because Okuu blasted me earlier I can never tell)
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Ok, Sakura and Tsunade are NOT tsunderes (at least not anymore after their Character Development).
And you are registered weirdly in my mind. Your spelling and grammar is off and you post comments which are just variations of 'lol,' but you have reasonable thoughts to convey and you responded to my criticism appropriately and with no flaming or swearing,, like a smart person who has English as a second language, or types really fast and uses a browser with no built-in spellcheck.
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I'm used to putting comments on Youtube's so sue me, And yes that's the very reason I like those two so much, Let's not fight over this and agree to disagree as this is likely to start a comment war that both of us will hate ourselves for starting. (Thx u by the way flaming and using swear words with making sense and being an A@# about it is wrong and I like to think of myself as a Troll hunter if you know what I mean by the word "Troll", I surprised as well as your the first person to actually make your point with being a troll about it to me as I end up dealing with the same problem with Flamers)
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I'm not fighting, I thought we were debating: I'm admitting the two USED to be Tsunderes, (ok, maybe Sakura is still one one, but less so/more reasonable+Naruto is still clueless about what aggravates her)
Also, don't feed the trolls. They want a reaction, if you attack them, they consider it a win. Look at it like this, they believe there's no such thing as bad publicity, and they're like the kid who deliberately misbehaves to get attention, even if you punish them they consider it a win because they got a rise out of someone.
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I know we're know your not attacking, I don't mind debating, I'm just to use to getting flamed or dealing with troll's that it's kind of hard not to tell the difference anymore (Not that I'm accusing you of anything, The day I made my last Message, I had to deal with a stupid little troll, Plus your right on the part about not feeding them (Believe me I got 4 trolls living with me their called teenage siblings) so in a way I still feel stupid for even getting pulled in debate's with them (I learned my lession with the above troll on Youtube I mentioned earlier), As for the Feelings on Tsundere and Akane, I like Akane and Ranma pairings and sometimes in FanFic's people show her nice girl side more then the tsundere one, But when she does stuff like this though it causes a nerd rage in me the size of Bruce Banner and makes me hate her more (In Ranma as I said before I love only two pairing's Ranma could end up with, Akane and Ukyo, Who are the only two who actually deserve and even have the right to be with him)
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Curses! He's revealed our one true weakness! Well, besides fire anyway.
But seriously now, well said Jack. I myself prefer to do my trolling in real life and only occasionally troll over the internet. I suppose that makes me an inverse roll. Or perhaps a were-troll.
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Is a shock site/average Youtube commenter your full moon?
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Sometimes, although I prefer to troll friends and family in real life. More satisfying and I'm less likely to get punched in the face that way. Case in point, one of my friends collects Bionicle figures. One year for his birthday, he started dropping hints that he'd like a certain rare piece he didn't yet have in his collection. I bought it fairly cheap online and it was upon seeing how small it was that my inner troll took over.
I grabbed the biggest box I could find, roughly 2/3rds my size, and filled it with bubblewrap, large rocks to add weight, and the tiny gift in question. Lemme tell ya, the look on his face when I showed up to his birthday party with a present I needed help carrying was priceless! Almost as priceless as the look on his face when he opened it! It was what he wanted anyway, so we both got a laugh out of it.
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It's like my Real Life lighthearted troll-lite stepdad says, it's all about knowing the person and what you can/can't do and what would be crossing the line. People are different, and you need to take that into account, as we both learned the hard way when I freaked out at you.
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4 of us? Does Yuyuko mean her, Ranma, Koyomi, and Warui, excluding Youmu 'cause she's a serious worker fuddy-duddy?
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Her, Ranma, Kasumi, and Youmu.
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While I didn't read or watch Ranma ½, I know for a fact that when a romantic comedy featuring a Tsundere is adapted to an anime series, her violent outbursts are upped with the logic of producing more comedy. Akane was not spared. Personally, I don't know what goes in producers' mind when they think that such a shortcut can work.
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She was a bitch in the manga too. I hated her in both adaptations.
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Personally, I prefer Tsunderes who are more aggressive than outright violent. They're easier to sympathize with.
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Asuka from Neon Genesis Evangelion is by far the only Tsundere who at least has a good excuse for being one (or is she a Yandere) in my opininon, The only character I felt Ranma should have ended up with in the end was Ukyo, But yeah your right, I hate Tsundere who just hit the Main character for every little thing (except in Naruto cause a large amount of the time he ends up deserving it, Both him and Jiraiya end up deserving it anyway LOL) I wonder has there ever been a reverse situation (The male MC is the Tsundere and no Yaoi please)
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Personally, I think Akane suffers from a number of neurosis. She's insecure about her femininity and martial arts talent, has been conditioned to believe that all boys are perverts and has a truly staggering number of mental blocks (cooking, swimming, realizing that Ryoga is P-chan, etc.). Not excusable I know but at least she has reasons to act the way she does. She's actually a lot more likable in the manga since the anime tends to flanderize all of the characters.
Now, the Ranma 1/2 character I can't stand is Nabiki. Frankly, she doesn't have a single redeeming quality in the anime OR the manga. As a matter of fact she's WORSE in the manga. And she's a Karma Houdini on top of it all. At least Akane gets her share of character development. Nabiki? She's a bitch from start to finish and never gets her comeuppance.
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NABIKI WILL BURT IN HELL. The author lets her (scratch that, IT) get away with that s**t because she thinks it's funny. It ISN'T If I write that fanfic I have brewing in the back of my head, my self-insert (realistic, wont be able to hold a toe against the martial artists) will turn her s**t back at her and humiliate and blackmail HER. And laugh about it.
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A commendable attitude, but you have to remember that your SI will be in Ranma 1/2, which means you're playing by Takahashi's rules, and by extension, Nabiki's. There are conventions that govern that universe just as rigidly as any physical law (more so actually, considering the physics-defying martial arts prevalent in Nerima) and one of those is that Nabiki is more untouchable than M.C. Hammer.
Moreso, manipulating martial artists into doing her dirty work is like breathing to her. Being an Outside Context Problem, it's theoretically possible for you to undermine her by the dint of the fact that you are essentially a wrench thrown into an engine. Just make sure that that engine isn't really a giant turbine or you'll get SHREDDED.
Now, you said that your SI is realistic, meaning it's essentially you with no extra powers. Traversing the multiverse did not grant you fantastic powers a la El Hazard. You cannot learn Musabetsu Kakuto Ryu in a manner of days and become as good as Ranma. Heck, you'd die from some of the EASIER training methods.
If you are a bog standard human then you are essentially Made of Plasticine in a world of people Made of Iron that casually throw around blows that would pulp you with a glancing blow. What's worse is that those comedic conventions (hitting someone over the head with a hammer, punting them into LEO, etc.) that even the non-martial artists shrug off are just as lethal to you as any other danger.
Okay, sounds bad. You'd have the survivability of an ice sculpture in a blast furnace. But here's the catch and it's something I've seen done in a few SI fanfictions that I'm very fond of.
You come from a world where magic and ki are nonexistent. You don't belong in the world of Ranma 1/2 and therefore possess the dimensional equivalent of diplomatic immunity. Anything that travels from it's home universe to a new universe retains all of the qualities of their home universe. This means you are unaffected by magic and at the very least resistant to ki since they don't exist in your home universe and therefore don't react to you. Essentially, you are made of Anti-Magic.
That gives you a huge advantage, given that Nerima is practically swamped with dangerous magic and ki-users. All you have to do is avoid purely mundane damage while using your understanding of anime laws and conventions to overcome the Status Quo God. Sound like a plan?
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Exactly. Also, MC Hammer is now a washed up hack, so my chances of getting her are better by that analogy. Also again, I was gonna go the Kasumi route: stay the h**l out of the fighting and help with the cooking/cleaning. They'd keep me safe on the grounds that when Kasumi's indisposed they'd have a cooking backup (and that's ALL they'd care about bar Ranma). I also have the idea that I'd infuriate Nabiki by virtue of just not getting her blackmail attempts (and later pretending not to after I figure it out). For instance:
Nabiki: It's a shame I have no money for tuition, unless you have something to spare I fear I might have to sell copies of a video I 'found' of you singing in the shower.
Me: You're right that IS awful.
Nabiki: Heh, then hand it-
Me: -That was my most godawful work ever! I could make a better video of THAT in my sleep! *I take the camera from her and dash of to the shower* I'll be back with something WORTHY of Nico Nico Douga! (Japanese Youtube)
Nabiki: ...
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Awesome! People like Nabiki only have power over you if you give it to them. You're a foreigner, not to Japan, but to their entire universe. That means Nabiki can't dig up any dirt on you since you don't exist in a legal sense. Anything she comes up with you'd have to give her first so as long as you keep your nose clean (no perverted acts, don't get caught lying, avoid the Tendo bath like the PLAGUE, etc.) your safe for the most part.
Of course, Nabiki is well known for making up stuff if she can't find any dirt on someone. She once threatened to tell Soun that Ranma raped her if he didn't bend over backwards and do whatever she wanted, including posing for near-pornographic pictures to sell to the idiots of Furinkan. Ranma, knowing that Soun is a idiotic man-child who would take Nabiki's side despite her REPEATEDLY abusing his trust and being utterly unrepentant about it, knew he was stuck.
What your SI should do is keep a small tape recorder on him at all times and record EVERYTHING said when you are within audible range of Nabiki (and even a bit further than that). That way any attempt of hers to make sh*t up is foiled before it even begins, since she'll have to speak to you in order to blackmail you in the first place. In fact, carry TWO tape recorders and use them both. Remember, this is Ranma 1/2. If there is even the smallest chance of plot resolution or Nabiki getting hers, Takahashi herself will come down from on high, screaming "You can't do that! It would ruin all my wonderful sadism!" and screw your stuff up. The batteries could run out, the cassette could break, you could forget it in your other pants, the recorder could mysteriously disintegrate for no other reason than because it's NABIKI or more. Never stop planning contingencies and don't depend on any one method. Nabiki may be able to get away with all of it with no effort, but that's because she's been blessed by the Goddess of Bullsh*t Coincidences and Sadism.
And if all else fails and she does somehow get blackmail on you, refuse to bend to her and take whatever beating she sets up like a man. Sure, she can get you pasted into a smear, but if you show her that nothing she does will get you under her thumb she'll eventually either give up, lose interest or sic martial artists on you out of spite.
Which is where being Kasumi's kōhai comes in. It may not seem like much, but Kasumi is sacred. NO ONE can hurt Kasumi. Stick near her and your much safer than if you hung out with Ranma, which is only slightly less dangerous than walking into a minefield blindfolded.
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I still think tying Nabiki to a chair and making her watch Hastur's play, the King in Yellow, would be more fitting. If Takahashi shows up, well, Inuyasha as a series is complete, and Yukari hasn't eaten anything Yuka-level sadistic in ages.
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Hmmmm... that gives me an idea.
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Nope. You'll have to wait and see. *rubs hands together and cackles*
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If you need Kurisu for it, LET ME KNOW. I'd love a piece of this action.
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Well, it would certainly be more interesting with him. Do you mind if I use him?
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If you need me for personality checks and scripting, please let me know.
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Sure thing. Although there are only hints of their involvement for most of the story.
Actually, how much text can Notes take? Maybe I can show you some rough drafts and you can do a bit of proofreading and give me a few ideas?
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I think the space is damn near unlimited.
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Eeexcellent. Want me to send you what I have so far? I'm always willing to get a second opinion on my work.
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Sure, note away.
FYI though, Terraria just patched and it's seriously a mixed bag.
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Oh jeez. What's the damage? Besides the lack of mana regeneration on my kick*ss Jungle Armor, I mean.
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Orb of Light is gimped. Armors don't give off light. And you can't use two or more of any accessory. Oh yeah, and hellstone coughs up lava when mined.
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WHAT?! How could they gimp Orb of Light anymore? It already moves at the speed of a geriatric turtle! What, does it consume mana for every second it's active now? And they've already gimped regeneration accessories so that they only add health or mana, what's the point of reducing us to only using one?
And seriously? What is their frikkin obsession with lava? As if the lava slimes weren't bad enough, now just mining hellstone makes it appear? Jeez!
Anyway, sent you the rough draft. Look over it when you have a chance. It's far from finished but any insights you could provide would be invaluable.
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I like what I see. Also, Lava Slimes don't spew lava when killed anymore. They shuffled that little "present" to hellstone. Some dungeon chests now need keys you have to kill special slimes to get.
On the plus side, though, ash and mud no longer randomly go splat on your head. And now ANY wall can be a house wall.
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Ahh, that's a relief. About the lava slimes, I mean. The hellstone thing still smacks of trolling to me.
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Blue actually answered for the OoL nerf: he's planning to make it upgradable so the "LV1" version needs to be piss poor so upgrades can be possible.
Don't expect Skeletron to be easy anymore. Even in top gear he's now killing 9 out of 10 comers due to the lengthened potion cooldown. If you can't dodge, kiss the dungeon goodbye.
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How the heck do you upgrade it? Oh, wait. Don't tell me. You have to kill the new buffed Skeletron to get into the dungeon, kill a bunch of new, impossibly strong enemies, travel to hell, do something equally impossible, etc. Am I close?
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It's not even planned out how that will work yet. This entire update is meant to streamline the game for 1.1, the actual "new content" patch. That, I think is when we'll start to see most of the changes make sense. I'm kinda miffed, but I'm still gonna play the game because it's fun. What about you?
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Of course I'll still play. I'm just b*tching about changes to my games. I'm sure that when the new content comes out it'll be better but until then it's gonna feel a little lopsided.
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Well, we can only adapt... and team up. I know I'm gonna start a new version of Kurisu for this patch. I keep a fully-geared version for free-build servers, but I plan to start fresh.
Maybe we can both die a whole ton together.
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I do have "All Items" maps we can restock with, so don't worry.
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