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Description Short break from work? Not playing with my new Wii U for some reason?

Draw P:

I go through a very extensive naming process for the Trainers I play as in Pokémon games. He's special because he got a full name up front.

Also, Hoenn is pretty Mediterranean-ish. Tanner skin. Also bandages. Because of reasons I posted on Tumblr  and Twitter .


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JigglypuffQueen9000 [2018-04-23 23:39:45 +0000 UTC]

I love Brendan. I have a crush on him. I love this too.

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Saku-Senpai In reply to JigglypuffQueen9000 [2018-04-29 18:04:48 +0000 UTC]

I don't know about this crush business, but I'm glad you like

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JigglypuffQueen9000 In reply to Saku-Senpai [2018-04-29 18:22:14 +0000 UTC]

I am im love with him. And thanks and you're welcome!

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Koki-arts [2015-07-12 18:20:05 +0000 UTC]

looks awesome ^^!

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Koki-arts [2016-06-24 20:41:08 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, lovely person!

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Jiyuria [2015-01-03 22:31:23 +0000 UTC]

Hoenn is Kyushu. 

It's in Japan. Hence why all the housing tends to be very Japanese. 

It's actually Junichi Masuda's family's hometown (Kanto being Satoshi Tajiri's actual hometown). It's a very small town area, unlike say Kanto (Tokyo), Unova (NYC), or Kalos (Paris). For the record the rest of the regions are Johto (Kansai) and Sinnoh (Hokkaido).

Japanese people can actually have ridiculously dark skin (often times even much darker then Arabic skin). The reason for the pale skin is they have an obsession with it, one that actually causes serious issues in the culture (as in some Asian countries darker skin is seen as ugly or unnatural. Despite being relatively common. (Back in the day the very elite would even blacken their teeth to accentuate this paleness. As well as a ton of pale make up.)). The idea of enforcing this harmful thing is probably not a good idea to do. It's not Mediterranean or anything else just because they have dark skin. They're just (a very natural) dark skinned Asian.

Though, as a dark skinned Scilian Italian I would love it if we got that region (especially because I think they have a pretty high buyer base in places like Italy). Or even other areas would be interesting, but due to controversy they dealt with and buyer base (as well as recognizability (do you think it was by chance one of the regions was where they hold their events every year and a place that has kept a Pokemon balloon in their major holiday parade for 14 years? I don't.)  I don't think we're going to get many other countries in the area anytime soon.

But other then that, good picture. I really like his eyes. And his expression. (Even though if you play a girl Brendan's kind of a giant douche.) 

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-04 04:23:29 +0000 UTC]

OK, done reading!


I really just chose to make the skin darker than the original because I decided to give my guy a Greek name, because it… just seemed right. Like naming anyone or anything else, right?

As for his face, well… when I was drawing him for the first time my eyelids were really having. I ended up giving him the face I was making at the time and stuck with it.


So yeah, most regions are based on parts of Japan. Heck, Almia is part of Hokkaido.


I've heard from people who picked the girl that Brendan was overly clingy and annoying, while apparently May was cute and- Idunno.

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Jiyuria In reply to Saku-Senpai [2015-01-04 06:27:40 +0000 UTC]

(For the record, this is Brendan the NPC not Brendan the player. Though my friend said it did take the enjoyment out of it for him playing Brendan because now he felt like the bully pushing May down for her gender (considering the comments made if you play her). I'd say him liking the player was the best handled part about him honestly (though I guess if you're a guy playing the role you can see it that way (as it's not made for them), but I wouldn't call him clingy no), I just wish he didn't immediately like you then be nice to you. Just kind of makes him seem like a jerk.)

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Jiyuria In reply to Saku-Senpai [2015-01-04 06:24:02 +0000 UTC]

I wouldn't say the skin seems darker, it's about the same in my mind. I just don't like people assuming that because the skin is dark they're not Asian anymore, it wasn't a jab at you by any means! (More the mentality.)

Orre is Pheonix Arizona. Unova is NYC, U.S., and Kalos is Paris, France. Other then that, yeah, mostly Japan.

Nothing wrong with making your character Mediterranean don't get me wrong! I'm not saying that. It's just the comments that "it's not fully Japan anymore" because the dark skin I keep seeing everywhere that bothers me. Especially when it's an issue causing serious issues in the countries. What -your- character is is up to you. And that's fine. 

Brendan is sexist. Like ridiculously so. He constantly makes jabs about how boys are better and how he's better for his gender. I know it can be seen as giving a message of "girls can fight as good as boys show them" but it's such a common trope and it's preachy and frankly rips any likability from Brendan. When you meet him he says "I had heard you were a Gym Leader's child so I had HOPED you'd be a boy. Oh, well, I guess we are still neighbors... so I guess we can still be friends." (with an obviously upset wording).  "Alright, let's see once and for all who's going the superior trainer. But we already know who the answer is." (implying to be he should be the better fighter because he's male based on previous dialogue.). May's the players cheer squad and most of her dialogue cheering the player on is replaced with "Well, I GUESS you're OK." or "I guess that was pretty good."  So May is the player's cheer squad, and Brendan is much more demeaning and half compliments. I mean I get he's an 11/12 year old boy but it does get to the point where you just wonder why she even considers him a friend. And he only starts to change his tune because he becomes ATTRACTED to her (and they make this clear) and this just makes this worse. If they had made his character stop doing the jabs and appreciate her as a friend and THEN start crushing instead of just jabs and THEN crushing it might have worked better. But otherwise he just kind of comes off like a 12 year old sleaze who can only value her as someone who is either lesser to him as a woman or someone he only is nice to because he's attracted to her. It doesn't do a particularly good job of framing the character well. Which sucks because I really liked Brendan (he made a comment about your gender and was never as nice as May in the original games but he was never THIS bad either. He mentions being surprised you're a girl for instance, but immediately still being happy with you as a friend instead of a resigned "well I guess I have no choice" he's like "It's still so nice to meet you, hey!" Kinda sucks to be honest. I really wanted to like him.)

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-04 06:51:53 +0000 UTC]

That's a downer about Brendan, then.

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Jiyuria In reply to Saku-Senpai [2015-01-04 07:47:28 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, definitely brings him down, speaking bluntly. I don't understand why they had to make him worse, honestly, I don't believe he and May should be written differently at all, but if you wanted to stay near the original why make it SO MUCH WORSE.

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-04 16:00:51 +0000 UTC]

And here we have a famous nuzlocker expressing her feelings about Brendan

kynimdraws.tumblr.com/post/104…

Annoying, as mentioned, to say the least.

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Jiyuria In reply to Saku-Senpai [2015-01-04 21:01:32 +0000 UTC]

See I never minded Calem, nor did I mind Brendan on the front of being "clingy" I wouldn't say he was clingy per say. 

Just douche-y.

Also, I don't like that person much at all. I have my reasons but I don't really value their opinions or their comic. I'm not going to go into why but I'd prefer you didn't mention them to me, alright? I promise you it's not as immature as you think it is. 

But that being said he's definitely a dick but that's not my criticism of him. Actually, I'd say he's infinitely less clingy and awful then the Kalos people were. (Especially Shauna. Who frankly I just want to set on fire. "DO WHAT I WANT". "I KNOW THE WORLD'S ENDANGER BUT I WANT TO FEEL INVOOOOOOOOOOLVED" "I'VE JUST DECIDED WE'RE FRIENDS SO NOW YOU'LL DO WHATEVER I WANT WHETHER YOU WANT TO OR NOT". Abusive friend holy crap.) I liked the parts he liked the main character.

Either you want them to get together or you don't but he was never that clingy? I don't understand. Calem was also the least awful of the 4 friends from Kalos. He and Trevor were the only ones to border on "good" much less tolerable (which the other two were "awful"). Calem I actually cared about and was one of the only characters I even liked. 

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-04 23:38:36 +0000 UTC]

OK, I know that Shauna was super clingy, but the whole "do what I want" thing doesn't ring a bell. Maybe dragging the player places is what you meant? But wanting to be involved and CLAIMING to be involved rung sooo many bells for Shauna and, in my case, Serena, and Brendan.

Oddly enough, I don't recall this happening in older games, or at least Platinum. (At Spear Pillar, Barry kind of just battles by your side, healths your Pokemon, then high-tails it out of there. Perhaps subtle 4th-wall breaking "this is your moment, be the hero and catch the giant menacing legendary Pokemon, saving the world. I'll just get out of your way. Other "rival" is nowhere in sight) The others would go on about how "we did it!" and "woo teamwork!" They didn't do anything, get out of here!

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Jiyuria In reply to Saku-Senpai [2015-01-05 00:04:31 +0000 UTC]

I mean how she just DECIDED she was your BESTEST FRIEND EVER. Or how she'd just decide you should go along with her. Or how she'd drag you along to things for no reason. (I.E. haunted house.) And just decide AS SOMEONE WHO LITERALLY JUST MET YOU THAT DAY that you would be one of her best friends and go everywhere with her. Or when you were in the base and she was like "I felt left out...." EVERYONE IS DYING SHAUNA. You want to know what Trevor and Tierno were doing then? RELEASING THE POKEMON BEING SACRIFICED BEFORE THEY COULD BE. Shauna was all "I don't want to be alone. I feel left out." TOO BAD. PRIORITIES. And she just happened to have a BS deus ex machina for it (that we could have worked around honestly), but if she hadn't she'd have been useless. (Caps for emphasis not yelling.)

Brendan, honestly, I didn't see this. He often wanted to help but very little to do so and ADMITTED to that which was cool. He flat out admits he wasn't that helpful in the events and has to come to terms with it. He even says he ran over to help but realized the issue was way bigger then him and instead says he'll help comfort the people of Sootopolis because there's nothing he can do. You're the hero. You're the one to shine. He even admits he wasn't that helpful on most issues, to his credit. Flat out dialogue. But even so he's STILL more competent then Calem which surprises me.

And yeah, Gen 4 had a different writer and the best one Pokemon has ever had frankly. Also, you're not giving Lucas/Dawn credit there. They did help. A lot. They just covered issues you couldn't elsewhere (and on one occasion team up with you in a double battle I believe). Like whenever Team Galactic (BECAUSE THEY WERE ACTUALLY COMPETENT) would go after 3 areas at once, they'd be sent to one of them. And they actually did stuff which was cool. Like impede on them, figure stuff out. 

Jun/Barry and Lucas/Dawn felt like characters actually helping and working with you. Also Lucas/Dawn were more the brains then brawn anyways. Barry the brawns. You the middle ground. Adding on to that as far as a trainer they all seemed competent. Which Gen 5 just shot in the foot. Gen 4 made you feel cool without making you basically the most awesome magical being to ever grace the earth (I.E. the others around you were equally competent which made triumphing feel good) which Gen 5 failed to do. (People are BORN to succeed! Some people are just magically better! Yeah OK great but that doesn't make my achievement feel like anything much then. And I LIKED other competent trainers I liked being around. I don't want to be the best thing ever.)

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-05 01:42:27 +0000 UTC]

Oh, right, May did the same thing, too.

Maybe I'm thinking about them in RS? 


And back to Dawn/Lucas, again, I have a shit memory sometimes… So, yeah, I agree on that point that everyone had a handy in things. (I still find it so odd that Barry literally just books it.)


Oh, Cheren, you're looking too deep into why the player is better than you. Really, you were a great trainer, but with such self-doubt you bring yourself and others down. 

Course I don't remember him being like that the whole game, but once he started to think that way, it just got worse for him.

Bianca learned to be strong (in other ways) and found her purpose in the end, I suppose. A few daddy-issues later.

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Jiyuria In reply to Saku-Senpai [2015-01-05 02:34:22 +0000 UTC]

Also, in RS I think that was supposed to be a definite fault if I'm not mistaken. May and Brendan both run up to you at the end after you beat Steven to give advice and then realize you didn't need it. I'm pretty sure it's more just "they're kids who aren't really aware how much they're not helping and are kind of in denial until the end" vs "they are supposed to be actually helpful but do nothing". 

Edit: I forgot there was an edit comment function. I'm so used to old deviantart, sorry. 

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-05 03:02:30 +0000 UTC]

Like a child Prof Oak, claiming he left for the Pokemon League when he heard you beat the Elite Four, and then you already beat the Champion, his grandson, and he's all "whoa, that was fast and I missed it"


(same… it could have been implemented sooner)

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Jiyuria In reply to Saku-Senpai [2015-01-05 04:40:36 +0000 UTC]

Pretty much. Though I think Prof. Oak just wanted to cheer you on. May and Brendan run in to give you advice. 

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Jiyuria In reply to Saku-Senpai [2015-01-05 02:29:09 +0000 UTC]

Honestly, I have never disagreed with Bianca's dad.

Bianca was not ready to be a trainer on her own. A trainer, maybe, but not travel the world. 

Her Pokemon was constantly stolen, she was constantly lost and confused, and she was uneducated. If Cheren and the Player didn't exist to constantly save her ass, Bianca wouldn't have survived her journey. Bianca's dad wasn't a jerk, he was right. Just because someone's a certain age or their peers can do something doesn't mean someone is owed that. The argument is invalid when she constantly did stupidly put herself in danger and was constantly uneducated and confused.

Unova has Hydreigon (a pokemon that devours everything in its path, humans included) Chandelure (a pokemon that hypnotizes people and steals their soul and sets it on fire), Cofagrigus (a pokemon that sucks people's souls out and mummifies them), Bisharp (a Pokemon that kills people for food), Jellicent (a Pokemon that drowns people for funsies) among many others. As far as regions go it had the most dangerous Pokemon (with far less mercy and redeeming qualities). Pokemon that even an EXPERIENCED trainer would have trouble with. It is not a region for an inexperienced, uneducated Trainer to travel in (we see this in play! In the tower there is a little school girl with a litwick who she is putting her faith in and when she loses it drains her life force, and she doesn't realize her Litwick is LITERALLY KILLING HER. (Nor do we tell her because we are some classy individuals let me tell you.)). 

But Bianca didn't read up, she didn't study, she didn't even know the BASICS. Stuff that should be obvious if you even live in the world. 

Frankly, as an abuse victim I've always had trouble with how the Dad was framed. He's right. She is no where near ready for the journey. They keep telling us this isn't true BUT NEVER ONCE DO THEY SHOW IT. He's just a guy who loves his kid and knows she's not ready. Frankly we constantly endanger her (and she does suffer for this!) because we brought her along. We're the assholes here not him.

This should have been Cheren's story. It would have worked out much better. Cheren was a guy who researched Pokemon religiously and knew all the little details and knew how to be safe and cautious. If THAT person was the one who was stopped by their parents from going on a journey, then, yeah, I can see that. Then we'd have a reason to see that as just being wrong.

But Bianca? She made no effort to research, no effort to even learn the basics, and then when she fell flat on her face she couldn't handle it. It upsets me that genuine logical concern for a character who has made no effort to show she's prepared and constantly proves she isn't is called "bad". Frankly, it'd be neglectful for him to send her out into the world when she shows she won't even research or understand the basics. 

And as for Cheren, to be honest? I always kind of agreed with him.

What I was referring to is the game started up the theme we see later, but also it's canonically stated that some people are born to be winners and some are born to be losers. Some people were just BORN TO BE GREAT no matter what they do, and some people are BORN TO BE LOSERS no matter what they do. And you know what? I'd be pissed too. Cheren studied more then anyone, practiced more then anyone, wanted this more then anyone (and he put in the effort to get it, which is the important part). And by purely being born to be great YOU win and breeze through despite not working half as hard. And you have the audacity to go on without considering how unfair that is because it benefits you. He did everything right (and above and beyond), he just wasn't born to be a winner and as such he wasn't one. OK, seriously, would you NOT be upset? I would.  

The game did not handle these scenarios correctly. And while I like Cheren as a Gym Leader (though he's resigned to being one of the worst in history, sorry, buddy) and Bianca is OK as a Prof. assistant (though I'd ask you to tell me where she does a single thing to warrant this other then the game saying she does without any real examples or evidence. When she stays behind with Juniper because she's not good enough to go ahead? OK. That doesn't really count and you know it. Need I remind you Lucas/Dawn were Prof. Assistants as well and they could do infinitely more then her and all her Pokemon combined?) I don't think how the game was trying to make me feel and framed it made sense.

Especially not when you think about it. 

Also, Barry running off? That was his thing remember? XD

He has NO patience. And if he doesn't feel involved he runs off elsewhere. He basically bolted around everywhere, to the point it was a running gag literally running into him. He does this even on important matters, which was addressed as a fault in game. It's his fatal flaw and really the reason he's the brawn, vs. Lucas/Dawn's very patient logical brains. 

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-05 03:37:40 +0000 UTC]

Ah, Schoolgirl Alberta, eh? Said the battle was draining and somehow felt burned out. 

Yeeeaaahhh… >_>


Using "daddy issue" was actually not far from it, because he was doing something she didn't agree with. Heck, Elesa had a major problem with him, not giving Bianca her freedom. Everyone needs room to grow, but he saw Bianca for who she was. A child, still not ready for the deadly region of Unova.


Ironic, though, that she starts working with Prof. Juniper, learning about the habitats of Pokemon.

And with the nearest Pokemon School being 2 towns over, that kinda limits sources to learn enough about Pokemon. (Her father could have taken her there I guess, if they've had this discussion before, which I'm pretty sure they have. Maybe? Who knows.) 


Some of the interactions between Cheren and Alder were… well you can feel Cheren's hurt, his confusion.


Wait, so you forgot about her surveying areas for hints of Pokemon history and signs of inhabitation? She was even looking into Heatran's presence in Reversal Mountain when you show up to traverse it. Of course Juniper would start her off on simply running errands until she was taught enough through them and probably some private schooling. (What else would they be doing post-BW pre-B2W2?) Heck, she even acquires the skills to determine a Pokemon's friendship toward you and if they've hit max EVs on stats and overall. Over the Xtransceiver, no less. Prof. Juniper, you done well.


You have to admit, though, Dawn/Lucas have been at it longer than Bianca has. Plus learning paces are different to everyone.


Could of sworn his thing was running into you… maybe justing running in general… 

Being impatient myself, that still managed to annoy me. (Some people say that the worst roommate you can have is yourself.) (Though recently I restarted my Platinum and he seems more tolerable. Could be that I was also doing a nuzlocke for Youtube and just started to expect his typical speeding behaviors.)

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Jiyuria In reply to Saku-Senpai [2015-01-05 04:49:30 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, Elesa was wrong on that though. Like imagine if you weren't there. That'd be it. In fact there's a point where she's just LUCKY she ran into someone nice and strong to help her (Iris.). Most people aren't that lucky. 

Schooling isn't the only way to learn. First and foremost, the Pokemon research lab is RIGHT THERE. Secondly, most people in Pokemon learn from books regardless. Books, which for the record, are in literally every Pokemon center in the region. School is hardly the only way to learn stuff about Pokemon. In fact canonically it's not. And frankly, I HIGHLY doubt Bianca asked because even when she left she didn't read the READILY AVAILABLE STUFF EVERYWHERE. Bianca lacks common sense and seems to think the world deserves to fall on her lap. A person like that should not be off on their own. At all. Bianca didn't research at all even when she had the chance to. She didn't even NOTICE stuff even when she had the chance to on her journey. Even half way through the game. Bianca is dumb. Like so stupid I genuinely kind of wondered how she breathed dumb. 

And when I mentioned "helping Juniper" I was talking about the Chargestone Cave I think? Even so, Bianca still did nothing someone else couldn't have done. 

The whole "ability to check EVs and friendship" is a skill held by A. a house wife. B. A crazy guy who reads footprints. C. Several devices (likely how she does it). D. A random person in the Pokemon fanclub. It's not really a particularly difficult skill. Especially because Gen 6 and Gen 4 canonized the fact that Pokemon show the "affection" if it gets high enough. (I.E. through actions, like how in ORAS even if you don't spend time with them in Pokemon Amie they'll start saying things when sent out in combat, and how they behave differently when they like you in HG). It's not exactly a difficult skill to master. Though it is common sense based, so I guess it IS kind of surprising she learned that. (Setting the bar high there Bianca.) 

Literally end game Bianca still acts like she's completely oblivious "Oh you USED that move." "That's the move to use?" Like yes, Bianca, a water move on a fire type is indeed the way to go. There are literally 5 year olds that have this down better then you. To be honest, I think Juniper gave her the job more as a pity thing or a "keep her safe thing". 

Lucas/Dawn are the same age as the player. Who is 10-11. Meaning they just got the job (though they do mention the Professor being gone for "four years" though I figure someone in their family worked for them first (Rowan seems like a ridiculously hard guy to work for doesn't he...He's by far my favorite but it seems like he's headstrong and operates on a whim). Which is quite a bit younger then Bianca's 14. Adding on to that AT THAT AGE they are already shown to in many ways be more competent then Rowan (putting out fallacies in his ideas/statements) on some matters and to be more thought out and hesitant by nature. (A trait often shared by Prof. Assistants.) Like when Rowan tries to give these two reckless stranger kids the Pokemon and they point out that may be a hasty bad idea (their fault is opposite to Barry's. He's too rash and quick, they're too against taking risks and think TOO far ahead and are often too patient.). 

Even if they have been at it longer, Bianca still lacks common sense things. There's still things Bianca should have learned by default but made no effort to. There's still things Bianca could have done that literally anyone else in worse situations then her know how to do that she does not. 

And it's both. When you both get your Pokemon and Lucas/Dawn are talking to you, he runs out and they point out that he's not very patient (and seemed overwhelmed by him) many people mention his habit of running off before they want him to and he actually misses out on his map if you remember due to his habit (you have to hunt him down and give him a package) the game hints on several occasions he misses out on stuff because he just can't sit still (but that despite this when he is around he's really nice and competent.). 

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-06 03:35:27 +0000 UTC]

"((I.E. through actions, like how in ORAS even if you don't spend time with them in Pokemon Amie they'll start saying things when sent out in combat, and how they behave differently when they like you in HG)"


No, except I checked this. Pokemon that were never played with in Amie, or rather, Pokemon that never gained a heart of affection in Amie don't show these qualities that you are referring to. 


(and that's the one thing I bothered to reply about g'night)

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Jiyuria In reply to Saku-Senpai [2015-01-07 02:39:31 +0000 UTC]

Did you keep them in the party a long time?

And congrats. The ONE THING I was iffy about. And the ONE THING I was borderline wrong about (if it was I'm sorry, it's how I remembered it and I rarely played with any Pokemon in Pokemon Amie but I may have forgotten which I did in my several Nuzlocke runs. And that's possible, and if so I'm sorry. I should have said "I think" and I don't think I did. I meant to for what it's worth? And even then only HALF of the argument was wrong the Gen 4 thing remains which makes the entire point still true. They show affection level through actions, that remains true whether the Pokemon Amie thing is in place or not. So the point is still valid even if one example of the point was wrong.). 

The rest were right, so your argument still has no grounding. Pointing out one fault so you can seem right doesn't work.

The reason you didn't reply to the rest is you had no argument as they weren't false. And you know it. 

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-08 02:12:12 +0000 UTC]

To answer your question: yes. They were an active part of my team and never fainted.


Just would figure that maybe having a Pokemon lab assistant as a father might mean that they were more exposed to it from an earlier age.

But nah, that'd be 100% impossible.


What was the argument again? Wasn't this a heated discussion? Wait… No, more like half discussion, half dissection. Like hardcore dissection.

Like, "let's cut it open, pull out all the giblets and mess with them a bit, see all the flaws and overlook functions, then shove it all back in, but don't close it yet, we need to have it ready to fling in other peoples faces" extremely opinionated "facts" with some backing.


(I'm not poof-reading anymore. I'll be frank, I always hating typing. Peeved off some friends because I insisted we could Skype instead of type in the messenger)

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-05 03:07:02 +0000 UTC]

You did forget the Pokemon that does eat humans: Kyurem.

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Jiyuria In reply to Saku-Senpai [2015-01-05 04:37:52 +0000 UTC]

Kyurem eating people is debated. The only thing that says it does is a VERY old legend there's no proof of. At all. (The town itself is said to be very superstitious.) Likely anytime someone got lost they blamed Kyurem with no reason to because he's big and scary. 

It likely works like Sableye where over time a false rumor (the soul eating (which it likely doesn't do based on many places saying that's just a legend or contradicting it)) just grew based on fear. (Especially since he can be a big glowing face in a chasm, which I'm pretty sure you'd assume that evil.)

Likely people saw it in its cave and just assumed it ate it. It works a lot in that town like the way stories get exaggerated and Myths come from. Especially since it's mentioned they HEAR it a lot, they just never see it. It sounds a lot like how werewolves came to be, or most folk tales. Or things like the Banshee. (Which was originally a fairy that cried in mourning of a king, then it was said it cried over any important loss, and then it cried when someone was about to go, and then it became that it was killing people by screaming at them. And likely it was just the wind hitting houses in the first place.) 

Because of this and the lack of Pokedex entries stating this behavior, it is likely just a rumor. Furthermore everytime Kyurem appears in any medium/game it tends to have a huge but false rumor attached to it and its evil deeds are often overstated, furthering the likelihood of this being the case. 

Also, I didn't forget to say any. I did say "among many others". 

I just didn't list all of them because there's so many. I mean I could I guess, but that's a long redundant list, isn't it?

I just put some you'd find in almost every terrain and left it at that (forrest, fields, creepy places, the desert, ocean, caves, etc.). 

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-08 02:20:17 +0000 UTC]

Mmm, so I remembered the Kyurem myth incorrectly. It would be very hard to eat people with your mouth frozen shut, eh? (At least I think it's that way. I haven't seen it open before. That's besides the point)

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-06 03:24:20 +0000 UTC]

It's like you make it impossible to reply to anything because there's too much to respond to.

Oh well. I come home late, feeling exhausted, only to start the old grind again dark and early the next day. The time I have right now is best spent relaxing, enjoying myself, and trying to stay calm about things.

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Jiyuria In reply to Saku-Senpai [2015-01-07 02:41:19 +0000 UTC]

Your argument is literally "I'm too lazy to read and that's your fault for writing in depth comments". 

Basically, that's not my fault, that's yours. It's also the argument of someone who has no argument to give and knows it and wants to act like the winner. 

Don't blame me for giving a ton of proof for my side, and you being too lazy to read it. That's not an argument. That's how the world works. 

Edit: I loathe this argument. It's not one. It's literally blaming someone else for your fault. It's important to make a point this way. If you're too lazy to read or debate the points then by all standings that's not the writer's fault that's yours. And it's what people say when they have nothing to debate or argue back with. 

This gets especially annoying on important issues (which this is not), but as someone who takes part in those this just greatly annoys me.

If you're going to state an opinion be prepared for points to be made and then argue those points. If you are incapable of doing so don't bring up the length or the fact you won't read it. Again, this laziness is entirely your fault. (It's OK to say you're too lazy to read it just don't act like that's the original writer's fault. It's not. It's yours.)

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-08 02:27:40 +0000 UTC]

Yup yup, day-jobs are a curse, am I right? Like, gotta bus 2 hours to work 9 hours then bus 2.5 hours back home? For money? Wow, I can't even, what a travesty. Getting paid to do physical labor? Shit, heavy-lifting?

(All sarcasm, but also all true. I like the hard work, but it leaves little time to myself. Also leaves you drained.

kinda like said girl with Litwick, if anyone knew what that would feel like)


I was unaware that I was blaming anyone. Is it a running gag? Me not knowing what I said and how I really meant it? Shit, everyone knows me more than I know me, if that's the case.


You're a very extreme person, on top of this. Everything you talk about is either at one end of a spectrum or another. I'd say there weren't any grey areas, but I'd rather not look that far back to double-check, because I'm just sooo lazy. I, for one, used to be like that. In Middle School, I believe. After a while you start to see that something can be both things, or in the middle. Lots of grey areas. Lots of… right, you don't want to hear that. 

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-08 02:04:33 +0000 UTC]

Publish this shit, I'll buy 10 copies.

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-05 03:06:00 +0000 UTC]

Whoa whoa whoa… Bisharp haven't been documented as preying on humans…

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Jiyuria In reply to Saku-Senpai [2015-01-05 04:39:35 +0000 UTC]

"Bisharp pursues prey in the company of a large group of Pawniard . Then Bisharp finishes off the prey."

"This pitiless Pokémon commands a group of Pawniard to hound prey into immobility. It then moves in to finish the prey off."

Literally nothing saying it doesn't either. And we know it kills with no empathy or concern, and is sadistic. It's predatory. 

It says it preys and pretty much attacks anything not of its nest, too. So, yes, likely, it kills humans. 

Especially when you realize it's based on bandits and gangsters of olden day Japan (which were known for raping and murdering), as well as possibly the Black Knight. It's often considered the anti-Gallade which is basically the "White Knight" or general hero who protects people. 

Edit: It's also human height. Well it's MY height at least. I love Bisharp. It's both my favorite Dark and Steel type, and I plan to use one on my team of Pokemon my height, but it doesn't mean it doesn't do awful deeds. Though likely, if it has a trainer, due to the pack mentality and leadership thing, it's the most likely to be nice. 

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-05 10:08:51 +0000 UTC]

To assume anything is silly.

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Jiyuria In reply to Saku-Senpai [2015-01-05 12:12:15 +0000 UTC]

It's more confirmed then not confirmed. It's not assuming if the Pokedex entries make comments about it's preying habits and the fact that it kills things in almost every entry it has. 

It's certainly more confirmed then it not killing humans.

You can't just say "To assume anything is silly" because if one theory has more backing then your theory it's more grounded. You're assuming saying it doesn't kill people when it says it's vicious and preys on most things that cross its path. (Which I'm pretty sure includes humans.) You're assuming even more then I am. It's deeply, deeply, hinted, if not flat out confirmed. 

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-06 03:19:13 +0000 UTC]

So I could say that Swellow probably eat people then, based off your logic? Nearly every entry is about it preying and never once claims to not eat humans.


And who said I denied Pokemon out right killing humans? I recall thinking that Bisharp preying on them was quite farfetched… like my previous statement about Swellow. (Honestly, I couldn't think of something other then Swellow for this ridiculous response. Maybe I just don't care enough about reading novel length comments anymore)

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Jiyuria In reply to Saku-Senpai [2015-01-07 02:42:26 +0000 UTC]

Not an argument. Your laziness is not my fault. 

And as for Swellow it might, but it's more likely bug Pokemon as its predecessor is stated to eat as such (specifically Taillow eats wurmple so it likely upgraded to other bug types).

As for Bisharp, Bisharp is never implied to do otherwise, as well it's a dark type which are known for their aggression and it's generally an aggressive dangerous and brutal Pokemon dead stop.

There's waaaaaaaay more implied to it actually killing/eating people then against it. There's absolutely more pointing towards it then against it. So there's no grounding for your argument at all. And mine is far from wrong (and while both are "theories" one is a far more grounded theory while the other is what I'm admittedly assuming to be bias). 

Also is Bisharp one of your favorite Pokemon?

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-08 02:40:13 +0000 UTC]

I'm sure Magikarp goes from bottom-feeder to essential the "don't give a shit I'll eat anything because I'm mad" Gyarados the people of the Pokemon world have feared. But yeah, is there proof? Who knows. Magikarp don't have visible teeth, though, so that's important to know.


Absol were feared for nearly that reason. They show up whenever something terrible is happening, and people blame the Dark type for causing such events.

Who's to say? It's been noted that Absol usually aren't the cause of these disasters but would much rather attempt to warn inhabitants in the areas of approaching doom.

So don't be Type Biased.


Back to the whole "Black or White, there are no Grey/Gray areas" mentality you possess, is there really more backing up the predatory habits of Bisharp than there is not proving anything? Stating so much as "there's nothing defying this theory, therefore it's fact" is hardly an valid argument. That's like being at someone's trial and instead of the accused being "innocent until proven guilty" at the beginning, they're immediately labelled as "guilty until maybe proven innocent" because they just seem like they were the person to have broken into that old lady's house.

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-04 03:59:40 +0000 UTC]

That is a lot to read, but before I finish doing to, the Mediterranean comment I should have specified to have influenced Sootopolis, with it's similarities to the Greek island of Santorini.

If someone doesn't already know, yes, all the regions (aside from Kalos) are geologically similar to parts of Japan. However, there are towns and cities based on those of other countries. A good example would be Castelia City was largely influenced by Manhattan, but still have aspects relating to other countries, yet again.

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Jiyuria In reply to Saku-Senpai [2015-01-04 06:08:46 +0000 UTC]

Unova was New York City.

In fact a lot of the regions in the side games were not Japan. 

Castelia City is literally EXACTLY like New York City. I have family there. I've been there. There is no city Castelia City is more like. They got it down perfectly. In fact out of all the cities in any Pokemon game I'd say that one feels the most like the city it's trying to be. 

Sootopolis is based on Greece but it's supposed to be Yakushima.

But again, the dark skin thing is just dark skin Japanese. Which is good I think. Good progress. Japan (and frankly a lot of Asia) has desperately needed this message for a while. It's been pretty bad about it. 

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-04 06:58:55 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, and saying that Castelia had other influences was talking about how the building the Game Freak NPCs are in is literally the actual tower they work in, the Carrot Tower in Setagaya, Japan. Otherwise, it's NYC. I used to live near there and been there a few times enough to know, too.

Could've sworn I read somewhere that some Asia countries ancestors were darker skinned, too.

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Jiyuria In reply to Saku-Senpai [2015-01-04 07:46:12 +0000 UTC]

They were. Darker skinned Japanese Asians have always existed. However, paler skin was a symbol of royalty/being upper class (a common thing) and it stuck as the way to be. (Because the upperclass weren't working outside all day and thus were lacking Vitamin D. And weren't as tan as those constantly by the sea/in the fields. This is why in Japan the upper class would blacken their teeth to make the contrast even higher. Similarly objects of beauty painted themselves with paler faces.) But they've always thought them lesser. In Japan paler skin and more open eyes are considered better and as such more attractive. As such darker skinned Asians are often thought to think lesser of themselves. (This is also a documented thing in China and India. Upon which paler skin is considered better often and tanning too much can be flat out discouraged. If not yelled at for.)

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-04 16:06:34 +0000 UTC]

Even anime shows that: deviction of people with larger eyes. When it comes to another countries peoples, supposedly they also prefer blonde-haired, blue-eyed people, seeing them as most beautiful. (I don't want to state this as fact because personally I don't know. Some of this were things I've heard from someone who spent a month in Japan) 


To an unhealthy extreme, some African Americans also think similarly, growing up in certain most environments. Basically teaching people that they're "not beautiful" because of skin tone is sickening… 

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Jiyuria In reply to Saku-Senpai [2015-01-04 20:47:38 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it's awful. It's really unhealthy.

There's a documentary about a bunch of underage girls sent to Japan for modeling for their eyes, and if you think we treat our models bad Japan is brutal. Some things even address this. And once you age that's it you're done. Japan can see 28 as OLD and that's really unhealthy. But back on point they obsessed over these girls as objects even more then most modeling industries do (they barely fed them locked them in rooms, lied, etc. Told them to lie and have no agenda of their own.) because of their big eyes. 

The blue eyed thing is true, I don't think the blonde thing is. In Japan long before white people ever had an influence the rare blue eyed trait was pretty much obsessed over heavily. Some girls got out of sex slavery for their blue eyes (which can develop in other races but is much rare then it is for white people). It's considered rare, and thus ideal. Like a collectible. It's gross as shit.

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Saku-Senpai In reply to Jiyuria [2015-01-04 23:43:47 +0000 UTC]

OK, that's fucked up.


While on the topic of physical appearance in Japan, apparently the people are usually slim in figure because of their healthcare system. If they met certain guidelines, usually in the body width area, their medical expenses (or most of them) are covered. Being a bit flabby is discouraged. That also explains how Asian clothing sizes work. The width of a shirt hardly changes, but as the size increases, the length certainly will. (Again, another tidbit I heard from said person who visited Japan)

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Jiyuria In reply to Saku-Senpai [2015-01-04 23:55:15 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, but the issue is, if you're just a BIG asian? (As in not overweight you just aren't "skinny enough" (i.e. you weigh more/big boned/naturally heavier but not overweight) You can get in serious trouble. Really uncool. (Not to mention really rare health issues they make you overweight no matter WHAT you do.)

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