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Saltheria — _ hell hath no fury _

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Description As much as I am afraid about the outcomes of the plotline in Gotham City Sirens at the moment, I did like the idea of two-faced Harley - her own, overcome with rage and determination, and the other being in shadow, but clearly seen as the Joker.
So don't mind me... a 20-minute ballpoint drawing with no real reason behind it.
Edited a bit in Photoshop.
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Comments: 31

RaverDan [2011-07-24 22:29:21 +0000 UTC]

I like this quite a bit, very simple yet it says so much

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Saltheria In reply to RaverDan [2011-07-24 22:31:02 +0000 UTC]

Thanks~

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sarahlah91 [2011-04-18 03:44:26 +0000 UTC]

omg im reading those comics!

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eccentricass [2011-03-17 11:03:34 +0000 UTC]

The fallow up sucked, they better have something actually happen in #21...
And this looks great btw!! Loved that panel!!

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Saltheria In reply to eccentricass [2011-03-17 21:17:41 +0000 UTC]

Oh yes, and it better not involve the "I'll kill him!" crap again! Snap out of it, Harley.
Thank you very much! Oh yes, I loved it too. It implied so much, so I am still rather hopeful for the outcome.

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eccentricass In reply to Saltheria [2011-03-17 22:33:39 +0000 UTC]

Well in all honest having it start that way is good, in my opinion (like on Harleyquinnade she had the nerv just not the ammo).
Well if you look up the cover for 21 it looks bad, like she fails (ofcourse) and just gives up basically (atleast the cover implies). But then 23 shes letting him out of the cell and 24 he is shooting and she is clinging (unless these covers are being mixed up and out of order).
SO LET US HOPE FOR THE BEST!

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Saltheria In reply to eccentricass [2011-03-17 23:46:44 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I am hoping it's just a start to a proper reunion just like in that episode. Only issue is - why did she become so angry all of a sudden? It's not like he had done anything wrong to her ever since the "Clown at Midnight". Ah, this woman's thoughts are so confusing!
I did see the cover with Joker Bond and her clinging, and I LOVED it. I just jumped in joy, so promising it looks!
INDEED.

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eccentricass In reply to Saltheria [2011-03-18 00:30:32 +0000 UTC]

Well honestly I can understand and feel the same way she felt when catwoman was talking about batman.
Its not the list of things that he has done or that she has done. Its all of it cause all of it happened to her, the manipulation! Cause at this point shes been with Ivy and Kitty who have nothing good to say about Mr. J and that doesnt help contantly being reminded the man you still love just uses you (cause well he does).
But yes there is always still hope!!

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Saltheria In reply to eccentricass [2011-03-18 00:45:51 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah, I know what you mean. Her own friends manipulated her to believe how horrible her BF is.
Well, he uses her, alright, but he also cares about her, as much as he is possibly capable of! It just resorts to calling Harls a victim, which she really is not.

One point which really bugged me, think it was issue 6. Or... no, 5. When they went to kill the Joker (Gaggy in disguise obviously) and although Harley instantly recognised it wasn't her Joker, and thus wouldn't exactly care, Selina and Ivy TIED HER UP, thus implying they could easily kill Harley's lover right in front of her eyes! Made her watch them kill him! Now it wasn't him, but if it was... How cruel can you get, seriously? Her own friends. For her own good, yeah, sure. That'd just ruin her.

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eccentricass In reply to Saltheria [2011-03-18 01:30:07 +0000 UTC]

I think younger naive Harleen may have been a victum of her own unready egarness, but other than that
Indeed I never thought about that, but it is totally true they did do that and it would have made her break and/or rage onto them.

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Saltheria In reply to eccentricass [2011-03-18 01:58:33 +0000 UTC]

Perhaps. But ultimately, he didn't force her to anything, did he? All her choice.

Oh yes, it would. It would also probably happen simultaneously.
Harley is insane and can be very ruthless, no matter how sweet she is portrayed - imagine what could she do to her own friends if they caused her to break like that. Seriously. Ivy and Selina didn't think it through, did they.

Or worse, she'd not harm them, but herself. *shrug*
Or do a little trip to a Lazarus pit.
Oh, the imagination!

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eccentricass In reply to Saltheria [2011-03-18 11:38:54 +0000 UTC]

Uh... no... thats what I said...

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Saltheria In reply to eccentricass [2011-03-18 12:10:15 +0000 UTC]

Sorry, I'm confused now. xD

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GothamAnarchy [2011-02-25 05:06:11 +0000 UTC]

I hate cliff-hangers! Waiting desperately for the next one to come out...but I loved this part! <3 I really liked seeing her two sides. As we all know, she'd never kill her puddin. But I'm excited to see what happens.

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Saltheria In reply to GothamAnarchy [2011-02-25 10:59:21 +0000 UTC]

It's a torture to wait that long again! But we'll manage... won't we.
She will probably stop from killing him at the very last moment or something. Whatever happens, I just want a proper reunion thing, with no interruptions from Red and Kitty! They don't get it, don't understand a thing!
Oh well, one can dream. <3

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GothamAnarchy In reply to Saltheria [2011-02-25 18:34:44 +0000 UTC]

Exactly! So tired of them butting into that budding relationship!

I mean, what's a Harley to do if she can't be with her Puddin'!?

Red and Kitty need to just stay down on that ground for awhile. *laughs*

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Saltheria In reply to GothamAnarchy [2011-02-26 23:28:49 +0000 UTC]

I have to say, I am pretty sick of the attempts to make Harey an independent villain character all by herself, or teamed up with the ladies like Red or what not. I mean, enough is enough - she was originally created for the Joker, to be with him, not just as sidekick - a mate even, an extension of himself! He created her, for golly's sake. Just let them be together, however twisted it may seem for 'normal' people.

I am almost panicking for the GCS 21 now! Please don't let them dwell into 'he is a user, manipulator and abuser and she is a victim' record again. *shakes head*

And exactly! What is her purpose when not with her Mistah J?

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GothamAnarchy In reply to Saltheria [2011-02-27 06:20:37 +0000 UTC]

Oh my god, thank you! Someone who understands!
She really isn't ANYTHING without the Joker, he is what keeps her living, I feel!
It doesn't matter what happens, her love for him will never end.
It's just too intense.
I mean come on, she gave up her internship at Arkham to free him.
She threw away who she was before just to be near him.
She kills for him.
And I'm sure if he told her to, she'd slit her own throat for him.

It's simple and clean, she loves him too much to just throw away her feelings.
That love would never just "disappear" due to Red and Kitty or WHOEVER trying to convince her.
So people need to REALLY stop trying to make her a "single" character- she is always a pair! And her other half is him, her Mistah J! Without him, she is nothing. He gave her name, Harley Quinn. Without him...she is just...Harleen Quinzel. And I swear, if he was gone, she'd be a vegetable. She can't stay away from him for too long. The girls won't satisfy her needs for him.

Gosh I am anxious too! I swear, I bet you anything, it will start out as that and they'll end up whisking her away from him before anything is "discussed" with him...or before he can pull that horn of hers and bring her back to him.

(*giggle* My boyfriend cosplays the Joker and today he and I were at a large costume event. He looooves to do just that- grabbing my Harley cowl's horns to bring me near him. It's cute. Haha sorry, just thought I'd share that because I think its soooooo adorable.)

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Saltheria In reply to GothamAnarchy [2011-02-28 17:29:28 +0000 UTC]

Good grief, a soul to relate to in this crazy fandom! Thank you!
I just do an eyeroll everytime somebody tries to convince her of how sick her love is, how wrong it is, how horrible he is, yadda yadda. I mean, they're psychos, of course it isn't gonna be normal.
Honestly, if he really was gone... What would she be? Just a random clown villain with no real purpose nor reason to actually do any crimes.

I swear, if Calloway doesn't handle the story in a good way, DC will be flooded by angry letters! *cackle*

Oh, I can totally see that!
- "YOU! Prepare to DIE, clown, for all you've..."
- "Aw, I've missed you too, baby!"
And before a proper reunion, somebody just manages to inconviniently turn up and bloody ruin everything! That's why I prefer to see the cover to GCS21 as Harley crying of being away from J again, locked up all on her own.

And after all... Did you see the cover for issue 23? Promising, eh?
Nevermind the silly Red and Kitty figures in the background yelling.

(awwh! Gee, it must of been so cute! I'd love to see that )

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GothamAnarchy In reply to Saltheria [2011-02-28 20:08:51 +0000 UTC]

What would she be? She really can't BE without him. She'd have no purpose, its true.

Ohoho, I would join in on that angry letter spree. >:[

Ugh, watch it be just like that. I'm going to laugh if it does. And that cover is so sad...but I'm happy to know I get to read another GCS centered mainly around her and the Joker.

And yes I did! It looks good, I'm excited! xD I love Harley's face in that.

(Heehee, maybe we'll take a photo like that when he gets his entire Mark Hamill Joker outfit done and put it on here. )

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Saltheria In reply to GothamAnarchy [2011-03-03 11:24:45 +0000 UTC]

Every association anybody has with Harley (well, apart from her haters) is that she's the Joker's girlfriend.
Why change it? She's been with him for so many years, absolutely fine with anything he did to her! For her, there was a fair exchange - cost and gain. Cost - the abuse, etc. Gain - COME ON, she's the Joker's girl, he cares for her, in the best way possible for a psychotic maniac! xD That's a big one!

I do hope it's centred around them! Because I feel it's gonna have Red and Kitty ruining everything.
And after reading "Hush" comic, I really don't get why would she care more for the girls than for her Puddin'. x)

And Joker's smug smile. Oh yes. xD

(lookin' forward to it! )

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Saltheria In reply to Saltheria [2011-03-18 01:54:27 +0000 UTC]

Oh my sweet daisies, have you SEEN the cover for GCS 24?!

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GothamAnarchy In reply to Saltheria [2011-03-04 03:03:44 +0000 UTC]

They really need to get it through their thick heads. :/ Seriously.

Yeaaah, I have a feeling they'll do that again. Ugh!
Oh I love the Hush comic! Lmao, when I saw her on the cover in the corner, I HAD to buy it! And yep, she didn't put up with no shit when it came to her puddin.

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Saltheria In reply to GothamAnarchy [2011-03-04 09:44:49 +0000 UTC]

Silly, silly writers. *shakes head*

Hush also confused me regarding today's situation in the comics...
Harley agreed to work in the name of love for Mistah J. She shot Selina. Shot her! And now they're bestest best friends, and her only enemy is, apparently, the Joker.
It makes me sick.

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GothamAnarchy In reply to Saltheria [2011-03-05 20:20:58 +0000 UTC]

It sure does. >:[
But you know, I feel like a lot of the comics with Harley just don't add up to the others. Always different, different stories. As long as they don't butcher her and the Joker's relationship, then I'm fine. If GCS starts doing that, Ima flip a table. >:[

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Saltheria In reply to GothamAnarchy [2011-03-05 20:36:12 +0000 UTC]

Oh yes, I know what you mean.
Just look at GCS themselves. In issue 18 Harley claimed that she would probably skip right back to the Joker if he called her, leaving the girls behind.
Issue 19-20? A very random fit of rage and urge to kill him.

Also. Issues... what, 5 and 6? She was all over him. Reluctant to kill, commenting in the end of how would it be if he came back (looking very dreamy), etc...
How does that work? Or is it her mood swing similiar to Harlequinade episode, and it will solve itself out properly with a reunion?
If not, DC may be unexpectedly raided upon. >:[

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GothamAnarchy In reply to Saltheria [2011-03-07 19:11:07 +0000 UTC]

I feel like its a mixture of Ivy and Kitty's influence and random mood swings, like in Harlequinade.
I mean gosh, we know she loves him.
She won't kill him. I doubt he'd even let her.
He'd probably pull the whole...
"e_O ....BD Baby! You're the greatest!"
Again.

Love that scene.

I WANT A LOVELY ROMANTIC REUNION OF JOKER AND HARLEY NOW DAMMIT! And if I don't get what I want, I'm going to rage!

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Saltheria In reply to GothamAnarchy [2011-03-08 09:45:13 +0000 UTC]

I can picture that!
Her in his cell, after passing all the Arkham security, doing all those badass things...
And he's like "O___O" and then goes the "You're great, baby! 8D" part. I just hope so.
He never stopped loving her, did he. In his own way of course. And neither did Harl!
(I just remembered. In Batman RIP, colour of Joker's nails. Red-black. I sometimes do the same to mine, but it made me wonder what's up with that on Joker's part. )

So REUNION, pretty please. Or the legions of fans will be dissapointed - I doubt they'd want that.

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GothamAnarchy In reply to Saltheria [2011-03-10 06:57:03 +0000 UTC]

OH MY GOD! I saw that too! I was like, "OHO! Can't get someone off your mind, can ya!? >"
Hahahaha! I know he loves her. Yup! In his own way!

...re...union...*glares at GCS creators*

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Saltheria In reply to GothamAnarchy [2011-03-10 12:22:19 +0000 UTC]

YES! I'm glad that if there is one thing Morrisson gets, it's their relationship.
I don't remember where, but I think he also drew her on a bathroom door, with a knife in stomach and hearts all over. It equivalents a love poem by him. xD

*glares at Calloway* You better get that right, Peter!

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GothamAnarchy In reply to Saltheria [2011-03-17 08:22:37 +0000 UTC]

Ooooo~ I wanna see that! *drools*

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