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Published: 2016-12-25 20:30:07 +0000 UTC; Views: 1849; Favourites: 35; Downloads: 2
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A gift I did for a Layton Secret Santa Exchange that ran on tumblr.The prompt was for original trilogy-based platonic cosy-times with either Layton or Clive and other characters. So I figured, why not include both and make it a PL3 piece? I would have included other characters like Claire, Dimitri and Don Paolo, too, but I was a pinch-hitter for this one, so I had less time to work on it after I finished my first one. Hopefully these characters will be good enough though.
Have a great day, regardless of whether you do or don't celebrate the festivities~
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Awww it's so rare to see platonic art of these guys, especially Clive and Flora ;_; And you even included the parrot!
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I'm all for platonic times with this bunch. 
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Thanks! I hope you had a good Christmas too and that you have a great New Year!
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This is so sweet and I'm really happy you included the parrot XD I hope you and your family had a lovely Christmas too!
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The parrot was one character I knew that I wanted to include, even when I didn't have much time to work on it. He's so little that it didn't take long to draw him.
And thank you very much! We had quite a busy Christmas, but that's to be expected when you have such a big family. What about you? Did you get up to anything cool for the season?
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He is adorable and I genuinely enjoyed his mini game, excellent choice of character to include
Mine was busy too haha! It was nice to have the public holidays fall the way they did, but it meant I was working the whole time leading up; I was one of the only ones who didn't go home early on the Friday, and I spent Saturday helping Mum make the pasta. My sisters wanted me to bring the old Nintendo 64 over on Christmas day so we could play it together, which was a lovely blast of nostalgia.
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Yeah, his mini-game was a lot of fun! Honestly, there were so many mini-games that I loved in the PL series.
Haha, same here! I usually like to let the people who have kids take the Christmas period off over me, because they have more of a reason than I do. And then I'd rather the people who drink take New Years off, because again, I don't have much of a reason. So that's meant that I've been working a lot over this time and when I've been off there's always been a lot of family about. It's been great, but I'm looking forward to things getting more back to normal next week. It's cool that you got the play some N64 over Christmas though! Did your old console still work fine?
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Can they make another Layton game that's just a compilation of mini-games like those?? I want more of the shop puzzles from Miracle Mask!
Yeah I don't begrudge other people taking holidays around this time, but sometimes I wish I could have the gap between Christmas and New Year off myself just because it's hard to get any work done anyway--every time you try to do something, the people or businesses you need to contact are away or closed! Haha the old N64 worked perfectly, twenty years and still going strong! The joysticks on the original controllers are a bit knackered from too much Mario Party, but I bought some repro controllers to use instead. I just wish a certain someone hadn't let her bogan friends flog half our games...
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I wouldn't be opposed to that at all! The shop mini-game from Miracle Mask sure was addicting to play, but there wasn't much of it. Also, if they could release London Life as a standalone title on the EU/AUZ eshops then that'd be great, too! I'd even buy it again, despite having gone to the trouble of importing the US version for it.
It's kind of a funny time of year for that exact reason. Call me heartless, but because I'm so used to always working myself it always takes me a moment of confusion to remember why many places are closed between Christmas and New Year. I'm not talking about Christmas Day itself, I understand that, but in the days after I always end up being, "Why's the dentist closed? ...Oh wait!" I'm glad to hear that the N64 is still chugging away though! They built consoles to last in the old days, apparently. Which makes me sound as old as I feel, haha...
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Oh yeah, good old London Life! It would be good to give that a go again, I don't think I really got the point of it very well at the time XD Plus now I know not to choose the personality trait that we both picked, since it was basically the worst one gameplay-wise XDDD Still confused as to why that was exclusive to one region. I had to import a second version of the game too, but it was the opposite way around than it was for you--Australia got the same version as the US, but I didn't want to play the main game on that copy because I didn't want to put up with the US voice acting XD
Same! Not all jobs are ones you can leave be for a while--people always need water, which means water boards always need water treatment chemicals, which means factories can't stop making and testing them. Pfffffffff we are such dinosaurs when it comes to gaming. We can be all like "back in my day there was no Mystery Gift. If we wanted Mew we had to go to a game shop and use a link cable to plug our GameBoy into one that had been specially distributed for the event!" Or if we really want to scare people we can put a torch under our faces and say "back in my day THERE WAS NO INTERNET". I guess when it comes to my quest to perfect the façade of Responsible Adult (tm) by the time I turn 30, at least I have that part down already 8D
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OH GOD I REMEMBER THAT PERSONALITY TRAIT THING. I can't believe the game was programmed with personality traits that could make it harder for you, though I suppose it was more realistic that way. And I remember you having to import the UK version for that reason! Honestly, I feel that you made the right choice. Not just for the voice acting, but having played through both versions they took out a lot of the British feel to the characters' dialogue in the US version. And while that's fine for American audience who'd struggle to get the references, I know that Australia is more familiar with UK culture because of all the shared media we have between our countries, so you guys are better off with the UK versions, I'd say.
Those were the days, haha! And in my case, they only ever did the Mew event in London, so only one guy in school who had a rich dad even managed to get one at all, which was the only way anyone knew it was even real. It also feels kind of surreal looking back on the pre-Internet days now. When I was young, only rich families had the Internet, so for a long while I'd only see it when going to my friends' houses. I still remember going to Gemma's house as a kid and she showed me that in America they had an entirely different Sonic the Hedgehog comic than we did and that it was based on the SatAM cartoon - it blew my tiny mind! Then we'd spend hours reading a Sonic fan comic called Other-M, which was written by a guy who has now gone on to be the main writer for the official Sonic comics. It's funny to think how things have progressed from back then!
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The genuine British-ness was what gave the games their charm and made them stand out from other games though. It might not have been perfect, but Great British Deserts aside, it's nice to see a real effort made rather than just a generic setting but where everyone puts on their "English" voice and talks about tea.
Hahaha oh wow that's amazing! And now to think that these days you have instant access wherever you are to all the Sonic furry porn you could ever want. And one of the staff from the official comics has gone on to make a fan-comic. Except it's definitely not a Sonic fan-comic and it's TOTALLY ORIGINAL. Sorry. XD
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That's how I feel as well. I can and have ramble for hours about how wonder it is that the UK localisations include so much of British culture that usually gets ignored, especially northern English dialects. There's been some real effort put in and no one can say it's generic. But I know a few US fans were upset by Azran Legacy, which got a UK-style version for their release too, with Luke's voice being the only thing to get changed (and in PLvsAA they didn't even bother changing Luke's voice for the US release), so I guess it comes down to different strokes for different folks.
For the record though, I don't want Sonic furry porn. XD Also, now that you've mentioned Penders in that regard it is quite a funny parallel - one on hand you have a guy who made pretty damn good Sonic fan comics who's now gone on to make even better official ones and on the other hand you have a guy who made pretty damn terrible official Sonic comics now working on even worse fan comics with Original the Characters DO NOT STEAL. XD
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Well at some point I think people have to be told to have a cup of concrete and harden the fuck up--if the rest of the world can put up with 90% of English-language media being American, then Americans can learn to handle the one or two things left that are about English-speaking countries that aren't them. I don't curl up in the foetal position in front of the TV because I can't wrap my mind around such strange unfamiliar words like "raccoon" and "Walmart" or the fact that every second person has a gun. Or bleed from the eyes if I think about how they would spell "foetal" without the o.
Oh well I guess I'll just delete this folder full of pictures I was about to send you 8D At least it's the right way around, someone with actual talent and respect for the subject matter has gone to work on the official series, while the guy no skill who didn't give a shit has faded into relative obscurity.
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You put things much more bluntly than I would, but I can't say that I disagree. XD I think Americans expect everything to be tailored to them and other cultures end up dancing around to make it easier for them without stopping to think that it maybe it isn't fair that it's always done that way. Why can't Americans learn why other cultures say things differently for a change? Surely if we were all on the same page about WHY a "bum bag" isn't called a "fanny pack" in certain countries some conversations would be a little less awkward! (On that note, my first experience with that was watching Sonic Underground as a kid, when Sonic said that Manic could put something in his "fanny pack" and I was all "BUT MANIC DOESN'T HAVE A FANNY, HE'S A BOY! O__O")
I'd only be interested if it was Eggman anyway. 8D And yeah, on that note it is refreshing to see that the right guy got the credit for once!
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Just because they're the loudest doesn't mean they don't need to shut up sometimes and not drown everyone else out. THAT "FANNY PACK" EXAMPLE KILLS ME THOUGH BECAUSE IT'S BOTH HILARIOUS AND RELATABLE XDDD Did you find that there were instances where they'd used the word "fanny" as the most cutesy, g-rated word for "arse" to make a line of dialogue child-friendly and inoffensive, but of course it had the complete opposite effect and actually sounded way more obscene than it really was to all of us who don't speak American? XD
OKAY FOLDERS FULL OF EGGMAN PORN COMING UP 8D
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Yes, I encountered that loads growing up! And I seemed to mostly come across it used by or towards male characters, which left me massively confused. Actually, if that happened nowadays I'd probably purposely start headcanoning that character as trans just to spite the American wording. XD
WOOOOOOHOOOOO! (Related: You should look up the Sonic Boom episode "Multi-Tails", because they totally made a dick size joke about Eggman in that episodes, I still can't believe it.)
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Pfffffffffff so there'd be a lot of characters who are trans and also prone to giving too much information XDDD
AHAHAHA oh my gosh they didn't, did they? I really have to watch this show XDDD
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Hey, that's the information these cartoons are giving me. XD
It was one of those examples where it could have meant something else, which was probably how they got it under the radar, but it was totally a dick joke.
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I don't mind if someone wants to share the fact that they're trans, but I don't necessarily need to hear uninvited in-depth info about a cartoon character's genitalia regardless of what type it is. Or do I?? 8D
So glad to see them keeping up the proud tradition of including jokes for the adults watching the show XD
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My rule of thumb is that I don't want to hear about genitalia regardless, but each to their own. XD
It's a trend that will never die. Though especially in the case of kids' cartoons where they're self-aware that they also have a large adult fan-following anyway.
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Well that's not exactly a rule of THUMB is it? 8DDDDD
Considering how long that particular franchise has been around, half the staff working on it probably grew up with it, so they definitely know there are plenty of adult fans XD
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Yeah, thumbs are rarely involved, I'd imagine. Or... maybe they are, but I still don't want to hear about it. XD
I think that's why they're making such good stories these days, even if the games aren't that great - so many of the people working on it now have probably been familiar with the series for a long time and love it. I'd never defend the bad writing of Penders or anything, but to be fair, back in the 90s those guys were pretty much hired off the streets or from their credibility of working on other series and most of them admit that they barely knew anything about Sonic when they started writing for it. So it's no surprise that people who do know Sonic would do a better job.
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It's too late, the expression "thumbs-up" has been ruined for me now.
You can understand how in the early days they might have had trouble getting the tone right or nailing the characters' personalities or the world-building if they'd never heard of Sonic before, and this was still the young days of video games so it wouldn't have been so easy to know how to extrapolate details from the source material. Though there's a difference between that and just plain being bad at writing.
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I'm so, so sorry... ;0;
That's how I feel about it as well. Of course I respect that they didn't have the wealth of material back then and SEGA apparently weren't as obliging with being helpful as they are now either, but at the same time that doesn't excuse the writing that was just plain bad. And by the early-2000s I feel that they couldn't fall back on the excuse of there not being plenty to work with anymore and yet the comics were still about the family history of a million OC echidnas and whatever shitty love-triangle of the month Sonic & Sally were enduring.
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It doesn't really matter how much or how little source material you have to work with if you're busy ignoring it in favour of making up your own story that doesn't have anything to do with the echidna species or the world they live in...
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There is that as well. If you care about the source material then you don't need a lot in order to work with it. But for you-know-who it was always just a platform for him to write his own stories about his own characters and get it to an audience who it honestly wasn't appropriate for.
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I can't think of what audience it IS appropriate for.
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That's the sort of question I could lie awake at night wondering! I remember that before he abandoned his forum for Twitter that he definitely had two or three loyal fans and they were all straight men in their 30s-40s, so I'd assume that's along the lines of his target audience?
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So just other people exactly like him?
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Yes, that is the case. It's kind of sad when, as a writer, you can only write works that appeal to people who are exactly like yourself. Especially when you're contracted to write a product for kids of all ages and genders, but instead produce a "sci-fi boys only club" for adult men.
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Specifically, a subset of adult men who don't find it creepy to be so leery about a barely-pubescent female character.
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And no, I'm not about to pretend that all adult men are like that, because that would be insulting, but it's worrying that there are even that many who are...
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Or ones who aren't really like that but don't necessarily see that it's a problem when people are.
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Yeah, I understand why people are quick to jump on the "We should be accepting of all viewpoints!" in theory. It sounds nice. But in practise there are a lot of viewpoints that hurt people and those are the ones that shouldn't be tolerated, no matter how much stamping of feet about how some guy had his feelings hurt happens.
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I'm sick of people misusing that. They only get as far as the first half, when in fact it should be "we should be accepting of all viewpoints that are acceptable". Because there are an awful lot of viewpoints and some of them can definitely be disqualified. The KKK have a point of view about non-white people, but are we going to say that we should be accepting of that too?
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I think it's so important to remember that as well. Especially since a lot of people who have these unacceptable and dangerous views will hide behind "But you need to respect opinions!" as often as they can.
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I only ever hear the "everyone's entitled to an opinion" argument from people who are defending terrible beliefs, never from people who are trying to be reasonable...
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I was about to agree, but then I remembered that I tend to preface a lot of my top tens with "keep in mind that this is only my opinion, it's okay if you disagree", so maybe I'm just as bad. XD
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But what you're doing there is acknowledging that you're about to state something that's subjective and that differing opinions to your own are valid. You're using "everyone's entitled to an opinion" correctly. Whereas people using it to shield their own opinion from criticism are shutting down the other opinions. They are only thinking about their own and insisting that there are no valid arguments against it. How can you claim to respect other people's opinions if you refuse to accept that they can be in total opposition to your own? If you subscribe to the logical fallacy that the very act of arguing against a held opinion automatically invalidates the argument, then you are rejecting the points put forward by anyone who thinks differently to yourself.
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Thanks, when you put it like that it makes me feel better. In all honesty, the reason I have those notices is to protect me from people who believe their opinion is the only right one and take offence at what I say. Heck, I'm all open for discussion with differing taste, it's just that these days I don't engage with it as much or go out looking for it because I don't have as much time. Hence my "post and run" attitude. XD
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Welcome back, Sam!
And this is also a wonderfully illustrated piece from Professor Layton too.
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Thanks very much! Nice to see you, too.
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You're very welcome!
How's it going?
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It's going all right! I've recently been in hospital having some minor surgery, which is part of the reason why I haven't been around much. How about you?
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Ooh my, well I hope that it's nothing too severe though. D:
Well most recently, I've had a bad stomach bug the last few days. The worst being was yesterday I was up all night before Christmas Day; so it's practically spoilt my day honestly. >.< Fortunately, I have took a couple medical pills and I'm slowly but gradually recovering from the condition and have made an attempt to be with my family this Christmas too.
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Nothing too bad! The recovery time took a bit of a while, but it's gotten a lot better now.
I'm sorry to hear that illness ruined your Christmas though. 
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Ah, that's wonderful to hear!
Thanks, I've been feeling a lot better since Boxing Day. And yeah true, that has been a recurring theme for some people who have been taken ill this Christmas.
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