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The Steppe Mammoth is perhaps the largest species of mammoth and one of the largest proboscideans. The massive Steppe mammoth stood about 4 - 4.5 m tall and weighed about 10 - 14 tonnes. It is the ancestor of the Woolly mammoth and among the largest land mammals that ever lived.Fossils have been found in Europe.
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Based on the skeletal reconstruction by Asier Larramendi.
Larramendi, A. 201X. Shoulder height, body mass and shape of proboscideans. Acta. Palaeontologica Polonica XX (X): xxx–xxx. dx.doi.org/10.4202/app.00136.2…
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Well if there was any mammal that could take on the big theropod dinosaurs it's this behemoth such a cool animal.
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I know,the update is in the process.I use to make different animals,that is why i can't able to update this image faster.Mostly i don't use to change everything when i update an image from a new reference.The Steppe Mammoth should have a head pose which is lifted upwards as seen in other Mammoths images while the reference i previously used was not like that.It's a mistake using that image as reference.I won't change the tusks,but will alter the body pose.
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I thought about the weight in the caption, where you wrote 10 - 15 tonnes, and I thought you will write over to 14.3 or 14 tonnes (rounding) based on Larramendi, since 10 tonnes is way too low, but okay.
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It won't be correct to write just over 14 tonnes because there are only 2 silhouettes of M.trogontherii in that paper. One individual is 10.5 tonnes,i think and the another one is 14.3 tonnes. So i can mention the weight as 10.5 - 15 tonnes. The reason for 15 tonnes is because the 4.5 m animal which weighs 14.3 tonnes actually has slender humerus.Whether that animal when alive was not eating properly or whatever it is but normally it's humerus should be slightly thicker than that for the animal that size and that could get 15 tonnes.
Comparing all the giants,the Steppe Mammoth is in the 4th place.I am loving all these beasts and the Proboscidean image is going to get much better.Previously you wanted to see an image for Woolly Mammoth max size.For no reason, i made an image for Ankylosaurus max size.I don't use to do it for any animal image. I will delete that one.
There is a good news on the part of Woolly Mammoth.In his paper,there will be a silhouette for Siegsdorf Mammoth which is a Woolly Mammoth from Europe. Whether Woolly Mammoths from Europe is normally bigger than Siberian Woolly Mammoths or not,but the weight for the Siegsdorf specimen is 8.2 tonnes which is good. So, the Woolly Mammoth does have a max weight of 8 tonnes.
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Wait, then which one's the largest. Because on each Proboscidea illustration you do it sais "one" of the largest Proboscidean that ever lived. Well, which one is it? If its not with Palaeoloxodon or Steppe Mammoth which one's the largest of all the Proboscideans? I mean, several Steppe Mammoth composites that are 13 ft high and weigh 10 tonnes. And if that is so, I've only seen one estimation for Palaeoloxodon Recki, it was at 15 ft high and 12 tonnes, so I'm truly outspoken by them hardly even acknowledging Palaeoloxodon in all the articles I see. Its confusing, well anyways, great work.
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Well, this is mentioned as the largest Mammoth and there is a reason.With several individuals reaching 13 ft tall and 10 tonne which you should have read but a single humerus 1.45 m long found in Mosbach Sande, Germany is estimated to have an in the flesh shoulder 15 ft and that might be the largest mammoth found yet as the news says. Then second thing is some parts of Songhua Mammoth belong to Steppe Mammoth,so that is a big Steppe Mammoth.
Then,a female Steppe mammoth found was discovered in 1996 in Kikinda, Serbia at 12 ft high and 7 tonnes. It's a known thing that male proboscideans use to be twice heavy than females. However we don't know if this is the average size of the female Steppe Mammoths.But one thing is clear that if this weighs 7 tonnes, the male definitely can weigh 12 tonnes.Hope that helps.
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Yeah, but the specified one discovered in Mosbach Sande, Germany was estimated to weigh between 9-10 tonnes, which is obviously smaller than 12 tonnes. And it says that several individuals stand as high as 13 ft but it does not say they weigh 10 tonnes, so where did you get that from?
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I did noted that the Mosbach individual was estimated to weigh between 9-10 tonnes and that sounded weird to me because it is 15 feet as they have mentioned.There are some Proboscideans in the similar 13 feet and 10 tonne range and that was the same case for the record holder African elephant .So at 15 feet ,any Proboscidean should weigh more than that as i think but the 1.45m humerus known from Mosbach is more slender.May be that Mammoth was lean ?
Here is a link to the size of Songhua River Mammoth.
eofauna.deviantart.com/art/Son…
They also do research on Proboscideans, so i suggest that you ask doubts to them because like i said before that i only make pictures and i am no paleontologist.
In that image,the average size of the Steppe Mammoth is slightly less than 13 feet and the weight is actually 10.5 tonnes and for the large individual, the height is only 14 feet but the weight given is 13.5 tonnes.Now that will give you more of a confusion.Don't ask me anything about it because i am not much into 100 % scientific accuracy. Also that 14 ft Mammoth is not a fully grown individual as mentioned. If that is true,then that individual itself could be 16 ft tall.
There is a comment there from a person asking if any Mammoth would have outweighed the Paraceratherium and the given reply was,Mammoths probably no, but other kind of proboscideans might reach to similar body masses.
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Colossal beast, though some of the largest African elephants ever recorded stood 4 m talls,witch makes me wonder how tall the largest specimen of the steppe mammoth was,likely 5,5m.
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There is a 5.3 m tall Steepe mammoth skeleton in China.
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Wait....I'm having difficulties discovering any article saying that this mammoth really is 5.3 m high, how do you know this is true? Do you have an article I could go to exclaiming that this mammoth really is this size? The one article I did find about the Songhua River Mammoth was written in Chinese, and I DONT read Chinese!
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Only one African Elephant stood at 4m as i know which was shot in Angola.There were some more ?
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Thanks.That was no way close to being impressive and now the image is changed.
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Gentle unless you get on its bad side.
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Do you think that this animal would've been intelligent, peaceful and tamable like modern Elephants?
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Elephants are intelligent,so Mammoths should be too.I am not sure if it can be tamable.There is no need for it to be tamable in my view.Why human beings have to own everything ? Anyway..
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I agree, and no animal is ever truly tamable anyway. They can "snap" at any time.
Anyway, awesome picture
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Thank you
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that has to be the 2nd biggest mammal to ever live after deinotherium.
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That is after Paraceratherium.May be both Steppe Mammoth and Deinotherium are similar in size.If not,sure there will be some other gigantic Mammoth which will be either rival Deinotherium or slightly larger than it.
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Please change its estimate to 13 ft high and 10 tonnes, its not 15 ft at the shoulders on average and no where near at 12 tonnes. Only Palaeoloxodon can do that. And even Palaeoloxodon isn't as large as Paraceratherium.
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So it would seem. Yet, there are plenty of sauropods that surpassed that size and weight range.
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Err, sorry, my mistake. I intended the above comment as a response to your speculations on the possible size range for mammoths.
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