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EDIT EDIT: Ok so this is my most popular deviation, but can you guys please look at my other (better) stuff??? Tbh the stamp itself probably only took like 5 minutes to make, while I put a lot of time and effort in my other stuff. Even the memes can take time, because I have to find the right images and edit them in a certain way.EDIT: disabling comments because I'm not in the mood for dealing with the Undertale fandom's stupidity
Doesn't it annoy you when people think a fictional character's age is more important than other people's feelings?
Yeah me too.
1. Anyone under 18 is still a minor and is sometimes considered a child, so Frisk is not "definitely" 8 or 9.
2.(Warning: opinion alert) I, personally, don't see how the heck can kids be that capable of dodging those attacks, the best example being Sans'.
3. Underground children wear stripped shirts, hence why Frisk could easily be mistaken as a child. She could also be a very short teenager, which is also how Frisk could be mistaken as a child.
4. Yes Toriel DOES call Frisk "My child", but most mothers still call their children that even when they pass 18. Most Moms also call their kids "Babies". Of course any motherly figure is going to call someone they perceive a minor as a child. Undertale isn't the first game who's used the term "child" to describe a protagonist
5. Toriel gave Frisk a bunch of toys and kids stuff but remember: There has been MULTIPLE minors fall to the underground, Most of them could have been 8, but that doesn't mean Frisk is also 8.
"This doesn't change that Frisk x (For example, Sans) is pedophillia!!!"
You know who else's age hasn't been confirmed? Literally everyone in the game except for like 2 characters. And guess what? How do you know monster years are the same as human years? Answer: You don't. It's all up to you. Sans could be an adult in monster years but a minor in human years. Literally anything is possible.
Undertale encourages love, tolerance, and peace. I find it funny how it's own fandom can't follow the game's message for the life of them. You see Frisk as 8? Great! You see Frisk as 13 - 17? Great! You see Frisk an an adult? Great! There's so much things let up for your OWN interpretation. Just because how you see something is different from how another person sees it doesn't mean you have the right to attack them.
And if you think Frisk x pretty much every character except for like 2 is pedophillia, that's ok! Because you know what? That's how YOU see it, and you can see things however you'd like to. But like I said, that doesn't mean everyone's opinion will be the same as your's.
Thank you for reading and I hope I can spread a little peace.
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I agree. Also, just because Sans calls Frisk "kid" doesn't have to mean they're literally a kid. I've seen older people calling young adults "kids" despite their age.
Also since much artwork depict Frisk as an adult when shipped with Sans, I don't see what the big problem is...?
And let's forget that Papyrus, an adult, dated Frisk, shall we?
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woooow...is this really how far people will go to justify pedophilia?
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first of all
frans is not a pedo
frisk is not a kid the way i see it
Frisk has no canon age. Give me a number. You can't. Because there is no canon digit for Frisk's age. Anyone can interpret Frisks age so if some people can see Frisk as a 7 year old, some can see a 12 year ,so people can see them as 18-20 Year old
is it because sans called frisk a "kid"? i’m being called kid by my friend who is the same age as me , I've seen kids literally the same age but just short, or at a lower grade level, or even just a few years difference, called 'kid', 'squirt', 'shrimp', etc. Doesn't mean much so it's not concrete 'evidence'.
is it because toriel called frisk "child" Frisk is taken in like her child, as I assume she did for the other humans going by all the different shoes she had. But does that mean Frisk is LITERALLY a child? Not exactly. They don't connect from Point A to Point B like that
Anyone under 18 is still a minor you see?
Or monster kid say "Yo! You're a kid too, right? I can tell 'cause you're wearing a striped shirt" . that is the reason Frisk mistaken as a "kid" , which is a hint at irony Since majority of people who play undertale are teens and adults, and are not kids not to mention he asks if you're a kid, which means he is still uncertain but the striped shirt is throwing him off. Thus Frisk being treated like a child can very well be irony simply due to how they're dressed - because, pointing back to #1- FRISK HAS NO ACTUAL NUMBER FOR CANON AGE
If you argue that in the UT universe all kids wear striped shirts, human or not, only because Chara was seen wearing one as well - Chara looks like Frisk all together, they have almost the exact same hairstyle, lighter skin, brown hair and all together share the same base sprite. They're meant to look similar, so of course them wearing similar clothing is part of this. Also, Chara just so happens to wear the same exact striped shirt as Asriel?? They wear those stripes because they were adopted by the Dreemurrs, and that was the clothing they gave their children (Chara&Asriel) so of course Chara is also in stripes.
Stripes are a misunderstanding.
Or because You think frisk is "kid" because Height sprite?
Well take a look at this
67.media.tumblr.com/bc9ddb4c0c…
These humans shown in the war against monsters are definitely adults.
Oh but look at Asgore's height compared to the humanS ( you can see a whole crowd, not just 1 person, so chances are that's an average person and not someone that's just short) in the art above.
Now look at how tall Frisk is in sprite-form next to Asgore.
67.media.tumblr.com/29056b1141…
Literally the exact same height difference as the adults in the canon artwork.
Maybe it's not a coincidence and maybe Frisk is older than people assume they are. Chara is also 2 pixels taller than Frisk.
not to mention, like in the description, Frisk waaaay too capable in-game to be a kid. They're very agile when dodging in battles and intelligent to comprehend all the information given to them. Kids aren't this capable, like it or not, surely they must be mature on some level. And while the player is synonymous to Frisk because we control them, them being the PC, at the end of the game Flowey tells us to let Frisk live and grow and be happy. So the actions that Frisk took prior, even if we helped them, belong to FRISK after the ending. So yes, Frisk is the capable one in the end.
and let me tell you this, frisk is old enough to be an ambassador
take a look
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mEcuR…
skip to the 1.33 -1.37
many and most of artist draw frisk as an adult, and sometimes sans as a teen. please explain how an Older Frisk with Sans can still be pedophilic to some people. Because if Frisk isn't a kid anymore, HOW is it 'sexual attraction to a minor' like an actual pedophile is defined by?! How is that different from married couples who do that irl, from married couples with bigger age gaps like 10+? my friend dated a guy whos mom was 16 years younger than his father Will you call that pedophilia too, even if they're consenting adults now?
i honestly fine if people don't really like this ship, but please, stop fucking slinging around the term “pedophile” just cus someone is shipping something you don’t personally enjoy.
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it is confirmed that frisk is a child by toby fox ,stupid,thats an old excuse.And explain this .and aging frisk up is just disgusting.and i never used ''stripes'' as an excuse.and theres also dwarfism.And they only used frisk as ambassador because they have no other choice.and being agile depends on how you play it.
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confirmed? when? i would like to see, give me something, a picture ...or screenshot maybe?
And the 1st the picture, The artist themself said you can view them as Platonic and Romantic
and let me tell you when i say i ship frans, I ONLY shipped them IF Frisk is an ADULT in the DRAWING and that its. and when it fluff (like hug, holding hand, and kiss, just that)
can i ask why aging frisk is disgusting?
dwarfism? i check the wikipedia that dwarfism occurs when an organism is short in stature from a medical condition that caused slow growth or unusually or abnormally low stature or small size right?...... do you see my argument in height pixel? are you saying that
people...all human, the adult....who is fighting the monster...have dwarfism?...how do you know? how do you know if they have dwarfism? and if they have a dwarfism, then i would like to see you see my argument again
well there is other choice , they can say no you know :v
and that is why Frisk is a blank PC i tell you before , you're supposed to put yourself in their shoes. see my argument again please 
still see frisk as a kid? then ok, that is 100% fine by me tho XD
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twitter.com/tuyoki/status/6429… mm mmm can't wait to see sans makin on that
but in honesty, don't pretend frisk/chara/asriel/etc. aren't kids. feel free to make aged up AUs though, that's what i do and there's nothing wrong with that, i just don't deny that they're kids in canon
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isn't frisk CANONICALLY the fallen CHILD? it sickens me to think some people see them as an adult, also if frisk is an adult, chara must be too, which they once again canonically are not. even temmie chang's art portrays frisk as a child, and she worked on the goddamn game. it's not like i can change the fact that people change someone's age to ship a pedophillic pairing though, like oh yeah, frisk, a 4'7 tall KID is definitely an 18 year old slut, just why ?
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Let's take a look at the canon art in the game.
the war against monsters art
These humans shown in the war against monsters are definitely adults.
Oh but look at Asgore's height compared to the humanS ( you can see a whole crowd, not just 1 person, so chances are that's an average person and not someone that's just short) in the art above.
Now look at how tall Frisk is in sprite-form next to Asgore.
pixel heights
Literally the exact same height difference as the adults in the canon artwork.
Maybe it's not a coincidence and maybe Frisk is older than people assume they are. Chara is also 2 pixels taller than Frisk.
and what about Papyrus? Alpyhs? Frisk dated them, and they are an adult you see
Yes, because Papyrus, as an adult, wanting to go on a date with romantic intentions, with Frisk, a child, which happened canonically in the game, is the only ok exception to this. Let's pay no attention to the adult man inviting a child, alone, to his room with the intention of starting a date and then going steady. Let's also pay no attention to how Sans gave him his blessing by not interfering, again, canonically in the game.
Yes in the end he didn't fall in love with Frisk but he went on a date with you WITH ROMANTIC INTENTIONS.
yet i dont see aged up Frisk and Pap doesn't get nearly as much controversy :/
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OOOOH
GET DUNKED ON BOI
WORDS OD WISDOM!
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Did you even read the description?
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well frisk is old enough to KILL a monster, right?
plus they can be an ambassador right right?
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Also thought I'd add this in:
My mom still calls her kids "babies" and her oldest kid is nearly 26 and her youngest (me) is almost 16
of course any motherly figure is going to call someone they perceive a minor as a child. Undertale isn't the first game who's used the term "child" to describe a protagonist
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also she says child as a gender neutral version of son/daughter, not necessarily meant to mean underage
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Really good point, I'll add that in.
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Frisk's age is up to YOU, also Frisk's gender is up to YOU. Some people are so adamant that Frisk is supposed to be gender neutral (and a "they", because that's how Frisk is referred to in the game), that they are ready to rip out other people's throats, who dare to think otherwise. I can see what Toby Fox was trying to do leaving Frisk's gender undetermined (and the age unmentioned). He left the player freedom to make Frisk their own, boy or girl or neither, 1-17 years old. I see Frisk as a 14-15 year old girl and I have my reasons for that. Somebody else might think otherwise and that's fine. Of course, he could've made two sprites for the player to pick from, like some other games, to avoid confusion, or simply stated, something like "Frisk is a girl, 8 years old". But that would have left some people unhappy and unable to fully connect with their character. Toby tried to please everyone and as a result pleased no one, what an irony.
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THANK YOU!
SOMEONE WHO AGREES WITH MY POINT! (And probably a lot of people who's opinion didn't voice- and mine)
It's really annoying and that's exactly the logic I put to it.
I congratulate you. You've gotten on my good side.
Frisks is also gender neutral because their gender is up to the character so, that makes life simpler as well
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