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Just perfect!
Iam not able to express all my emotions connected with this picture...
Best Wishes
Violet Fox
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thanks, miss fox, I am honoured.
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This is a great photo. Absolutely gorgeous. By the way, I browsed through your work, and ... wow, you're amazing.
Mind if I continue to watch? I'm sure you won't.
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I don't of course.
thank you very much!
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És te erre azt mondtad, hogy rossz??? Ember, te hülye vagy.. (vagy olyan inkább mint én.. 
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Na jó, akkor örülök.... igen, talán kicsit olyan vagyok, mint te, de ebben a tekintetben csak kevésszer. Naszóval ez tetszik is meg nem is... szerintem dizájnos, de valahogy olyan.... á, nem tudom...
Köszi............
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Yes. A VERY exclusive alliance, though........
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Hmph...actually, I rather enjoy the overlap of fox to lip - creates a bit of implied tension there that
works well for me. The mirroring is spot on, too, with textures, light/shadow, and colours clearly defined
as well. Can't say enough good here. This works for me on a few different levels...
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I am really happy to hear (read) that..... thank you!
Now there is a (+) for this one,
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Awesome symmetry and manip, my dearest saturnine! Ahem, it took me some time to understand it, because of my ignorance, of course, but this is quite freaky and better!
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Thanks, Grazer-boy!
Now she is carnivore, so beware!!!!
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*runs for the hills*
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this is a lot of fun. [no surprise!] but i understand the long mask comment. i think it's the nose over the upper lip area that stands out for me. if you were trying to replace the human parts with the critter parts, that is the one place where it seems off. the eyes are right on and the body emulates a funky hairdo perfectly though. and i like the white against the black. it seems formal. like a formal ball where people where masks?
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Well, it is funny because (apart from the fact that this is a mirrored image) there is no trick in it.
It's not made of two different layers, she was actually wearing this fox.....
...I am just thinking about the means of doing it better.
And yes, this is as formal as can be.....
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i saw the category and figured it was a layer thing you could adjust. so i'll change how i said what i said.
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Oh I see. No, it is the mirroring thing that makes it a "manipulation", and that is why I am not too confident about it..........
...but there is nothing wrong with your criticism, don't worry.
As for the upper lip: yes, yes. Unfortunately you are perfectly right.....
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i understand.
thanks.
it's just my personal thought on it - i don't think i'm perfectly right. and i realize you are probably using the word loosely, but i despise the word "right" when it comes to art. unfortunately, some [well-intentioned (usually)] people here confuse their opinion with fact. drives me a wee bit 
sorry for the mini-rant!
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Of course there is no 'right' in SOME of the questions concerning a piece of art.
But there are mistakes (committed by not sufficient attention or patience) that should be admitted...... if I drew that fox-nose intentionally upon her upper lip, I would say: thanks for your opinion.
But since it was some kind of a negligence, I say: you're right......
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...but it wasn't negligence unless you intended to leave a space there and then missed that detail when you took the shot. and i don't think that is the case. so again, i'm not right - it's simply my opinon. as are all the comments on this or any piece here. of course there are mistakes of a technical nature or omissions of error based on your own intentions, but that's an entirely different thing from saying that a compositional and/or conceptual aspect of a piece is a mistake or right/wrong. and that's what we are discussing here. that i'm trying to make the point that i'm not "right" is one of the stranger discussions i've had recently, but i believe strongly that art is personal expression - which means that there are no universal rules you need to follow and thus, no right or wrong. that doesn't mean there shouldn't and can't be constructive criticism, but that there should and can be a fundamental understanding by the person making the comments and the person receiving those comments, that these remarks are ALWAYS opinion. like the opinion this morning about the overlapping nose being a good thing because it creates an implied tension. i think that's an interesting way to look at it. but is he wrong, if i'm right? i don't think so...
thanks for the chance to write something other than cool or nice or wonderful. and that doesn't mean i don't like this piece i hope you realize. it's only because you were expressing some doubt that i opened my mouth/keyboard in the first place. so regardless of the wholerightdiscussion, i hope my small thought helped in some way.
j
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I think your views on art are very open-minded and 'democratic'. And I am glad that such a high-level dialogue has occurred here (I think it's one of the first ones for me on DA).
Basically I agree with you that there is no 'right' or 'wrong' in art, because it is a form of self-expression which is not subject to criticism.
But I believe that art exists ONLY 'in the eye of the beholder', which means that if a piece of art is not appealing to someone (or rather: if it does not say anything to someone) it ceases to be art at that very moment. But only for that viewer, true.
(all this does not contradict your arguments, I think these are complementing each other...)
Thanks for your caring! I am really enjoying communication with you.
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thanks, i'm enjoying it too, although i have to admit that it made me a little nervous to go on with it given the normal mode of discussion here. but i decided this morning to do so hoping that you would be up for it given what i have observed of your work as well as your replies to others in general on this and other works.
i suppose i'm democratic. i think it's mostly a product of my education experience though. i went to a fantastic art school and learned all sorts of fantastic things, but it was the interaction i had there that still influences me some 20 years after graduating. the school fostered an open-minded attitude, but also emphasized the importance of intentionality along with that so that dialogue between students and between students and teachers was supported by personal vision and an adherence to that vision rather than some "rule of thirds" or the like. a high level of criticism was always present [brutally high at times!], but there was always an overriding respect for others personal expression. it's this attitude i like to bring to wherever i go, so it is difficult for me to read some of the stuff i read here without saying something if it hits one of my core hot buttons. as i originally mentioned though, i think most comments here are well-intentioned. [most
art is in the eye of the beholder. i think i understand where you are coming from on this [although i shouldn't assume that] and i respect that. but that's a potential huge and fun discussion unto itself! lol! i need to get dressed today sometime! i think this one is huge for me because it touches on what art is or isn't [although i appreciate your "But only for that viewer" specification]. i would love to get into at some point, but in all seriousness, i could be writing all afternoon and my family will want to disown me in that case. probably not a good thing. but we should soon though, okay...?
in the meantime, take care and keep on doing what you do.
j
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Of course I was attacking a quite huge topic when I began to ponder about the essence of ART, but it all comes down to that, doesn't it?
Democracy is an indisputable value but in art you have to distinguish sometimes. Of course everyone is entitled to create and express her-/himself, but self-expression can be considered 'art' only in the case when it makes an effect on the person perceiving it.
Well, after art school you must know much more about these distinctions, at least you were exposed to an extreme amount of different approaches...
...gee, I am beginning to forget what I was going to say....
OK, let's suspend this 'debate' at that, and we'll return to it when an occasion arises....
(I am sure it will happen...)
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Oh I love that! It is so cool and I like how the wolf is placed on her face, and the wolfs eye color.. and.. The whoooolllle thing!!!!!
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Thanks, Claura!
Yeah, I've taken special care of the wolf's eye colour....
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Goody Goody Gumdrops. Yeah, Claura Is My Special Name
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Thanks... I am quite uncertain about this......
...but I am glad you like it!
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Very bizarre, and at the same time a very "fashion" shot.
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I simply cannot decide if it is good or not.....
...*hbynoe and *Mary--jane are right with their criticisms, so I think I'll reconsider a few things about it...
Thanks a lot!
For the fav+ also.
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Hál isten hogy állatok nem, csak emberek sérültek a fotómanipuláció alatt
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Én is úgy érzem, hogy ez nagy eredmény.... 
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are you sure about that
something seems a bit weird maybe the propotions of the mask
or her skin 
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Thanks for the honest criticism....!
You don't have to say it is cool if you don't like it......
What do you mean by 'proportions' of the mask?
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i think for me it is to long and it makes her face just seem to be very dispoportional...
yeah and the white takes me out too 
pretty
nice
beautiful
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OK, I think I'll forget this one for a while....
I am always waiting for your real opinion!
kiss you
A.
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haha!
clever.
that mask almost looks like it has 2 sets of eyes.
whats goin on with that, andras?!
the only negative thing i have to say is that the path done near the ears isnt smooth.
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OK, I'll correct that path..... thanks, Sarah!
What is going on? Nothing, just foolin' around with a friend and a fake fox...
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