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space-commander [2012-07-05 04:00:07 +0000 UTC]
Very cool. This would make for a great Sculptris project.
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cybershot [2011-03-01 14:48:19 +0000 UTC]
Very nice!
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bensen-daniel [2009-07-13 14:10:49 +0000 UTC]
So these things simply use heat to generate bio-chemical energy? How? It sounds like a cool idea (heat drives a gradient that moves molecules across a barrier to generate something like ATP), but no earth organism has managed the trick. We have photosynthesis, chemo-synthesis, but no...thermosynthesis? Maybe it's because the temperatures at which it would work would denature any biological molecule. That problem could be solved though. Maybe that's why they need muscular pumping systems, to pump heated water away from the heat source before the temperature climbs too high.
Another sort of thermo-synthetic organism could be a huge tube-shaped thing that creates an internal gradient between the cold water near Europa's crust and the hot water around areas of vulcanism. Water moving through the tube could power biochemical turbines.
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bensen-daniel In reply to Saxophlutist [2009-10-22 16:15:12 +0000 UTC]
If I understand correctly, you're talking about two biochemical "schema" at work here. One is low-temperature, more like terrestrial biochemistry, the other is high-temperature. Sounds cool---perhaps evolved from two organisms living commensurately (like Eukaryotic cells and mitochondria)? Still, the materials of the high-temperature parts of the organism would need to be made of something less heat-sensitive than proteins. See: [link]
maybe silicon?
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ghiachiaman32 [2009-07-13 06:42:46 +0000 UTC]
but why "cardio"?
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ghiachiaman32 In reply to Saxophlutist [2009-07-13 17:33:06 +0000 UTC]
i know, but why is it part of the animals name?
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Saxophlutist In reply to ghiachiaman32 [2009-07-13 19:27:37 +0000 UTC]
It's not an animal.
It's there because it punps vascular fluid around its body. Its name means "heart-plant".
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ghiachiaman32 In reply to Saxophlutist [2009-07-13 22:05:28 +0000 UTC]
... wouldn't vascular fluid just be blood?
and also, according to your description, it says it's not a plant either...
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Saxophlutist In reply to ghiachiaman32 [2009-07-13 22:08:57 +0000 UTC]
It's not really blood quite yet.
It's a plant analogue. It can't technically be called a plant biologically (Or an animal), not having evolved from plants on Earth.
It's part of a non-analogous kingdom.
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ghiachiaman32 In reply to Saxophlutist [2009-07-14 02:51:52 +0000 UTC]
so the only thing that makes it animal like is the fact that it has internal organs?
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Saxophlutist In reply to ghiachiaman32 [2009-07-14 15:14:57 +0000 UTC]
Not really organs, more like just specialized tissues.
It's 'animal-like' because it is closely related to the "animal" kingdom. And it has a mobile larval stage.
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ghiachiaman32 In reply to Saxophlutist [2009-07-14 21:21:05 +0000 UTC]
ah... so a bit like a knobby white spider (from star wars, look it up)
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nodachichiri [2009-07-12 20:25:34 +0000 UTC]
awww it looks like a weird little squid!
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thomastapir [2009-07-11 17:28:40 +0000 UTC]
This is SO COOL! I love this idea, and you have NO IDEA how closely it parallels some of my recent thinking on aliens...I was just working on the text for something I'm going to post soon when I took a break to check my messages. Check out my scraps later today, I'm hoping you'll be able to contribute to the discussion!
If you haven't already seen it, you might like ~fractal's [link] !
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Saxophlutist In reply to thomastapir [2009-07-11 20:45:52 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! I'm glad you like it! It means a lot to see other spec-evolution fans say they like it.
Ah neat! Yet another pseudo-"plant" organism! With some animal trait thrown in as well!
I see you also did a chart! Looks neat! I shall check it out!
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