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I wonder how the Reapers would fair in the Warhammer universe? Or how would the Mass Effect universe be different if the Tau were there? These are the questions that spawn a thousand forums and fanfics.Reapers: A race of synthetic-organics and one of the most technologically advanced races in existence; the Reapers reside in Dark Space, a vast starless space between galaxies. They hibernate there, dormant for fifty thousand years at a time, before they are given the signal to return. These massive constructs exist to harvest the galaxy's sentient life in a repeating cycle of purges that has continued relentlessly over countless millennia. They have committed this genocide several times, and through the devious process of Indoctrination, also fight with the help of the Collectors, the Heretic Geth, and fanatical Cerberus organization.
Tau: A young, humanoid and highly technologically-advanced intelligent race who are fighting to expand their interstellar empire and a philosophical concept they call the Greater Good. The Tau claim to be a peaceful race when possible, asking if others will join their cause voluntarily instead of fighting. However, if their peaceful overtures are refused, the Tau may well decide to conquer a planet and add it to their growing interstellar empire for the greater good, destroying anyone who stands against their benign expansions.
Now these two forces are about to come into contact, with explosive and deadly results. Will the Great Harvest wipe out the Tau like so many others? Or will the Greater Good prevail over these deadly machines? Various races will be put to the test as Husk forms, quick attacks, Indoctrination, and monster killing weapons are brought to the forefront. Who will win? That's for you to decide, for only you can say...
WHO! IS! DEADLIEST!
*(Because I know this will pop up if I say nothing: No space battles. Planet-side only.)
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Reapers, they conquer the galaxy like every few thousand years, and the ME universe isn't exactly a joke, and the Tau in their universe are so insignificant that it would almost be worthless to crush them. Reaper win 99.9999-100% of the time.Β
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With that logic Bruce Lee would defeat Yamcha.
The cycle is the reason why the Reapers won so many times. They controlled the development of organic life in the milky way. No Civilization progressed to K-2 level. The Tau empire would be best compared to the Protheans, if they could have developed another millennium or two and have a policy that is more cooperation oriented and AI-friendly.
And if we stick to ground warfare, remember that Earth and Palavan - their primary targets - hold their ground on their own. Husks, in every variation, are canon fudder - and when facing Tau, you better have fudder for days. An Oculus could pose a threat to single fire warriors but not against a squad, shas'vre battlesuits or vehicles. So all that's left are harbinger-class and destroyer-class reapers. Big, slow hunks of metal with weapons designed to take out single heavy targets facing a very spread out army that has Infantry hitting harder than most alliance ships.
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joking right tau will wipe teh floor with the reapersΒ
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I disagree, since the Tau managed to handle the endless swarm of Tyranids, and since this is 40k, I think they are above the paygrade of the reapers.
40K ships also fight across solar systems and not in close combat, the reapers would get fucked by particle weapons from several AU away.
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yeah im gonna agree with dingle on this reapers would win. you forget that the tau have no real warp capabilities. you mention the ability to use particle weapons but reapers have gone against the partical weapons before also geth Β also use partical weapons and with theΒ Heretic GethΒ view the reapers as their gods and would join the reapers in the war. Β the closet the tau would have to chance to fight is the necron which they havnt actually faced in the 40k lore. so as a hole the tau would not be prepared as such to fight the reapers. Β
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Every single major faction in 40k is fully capable of Death Star style, planetary annihilation, and that includes the Tau. YOU forget that the only reason the reapers were so op was because they always made sure to guide evolving races to use technology that they could subvert. Against a powerful enemy, who's weaknesses the reapers didn't know, they'd get steamrolled.
Final verdict: The Tau exterminate the reapers from very, very far away.
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I don't think you realize this but Mass Effect particle weapons are not on the level of 40K, as well as them using massive tons of plasma.
They also develop their technology close to as fast as the tyranids evolve so they would eventually just figure out how to defeat them if they couldn't.
You see, the reapers aren't limitless, if I threw a giant meteor at them at FTL, their mass effect shields or whatever wouldn't be able to withstand them, wanna know why? Because it'd be a no limits fallacy, they have never tanked something that strong and they never will, it would touch them and turn them into vapor.
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Giving this one to the Reapers.Β They don't give races a choice whether to be indoctrinated or destroyed.
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A very interesting duel. I give them a stalemate. Reapers destroyed advanced civilizations on a regular basis since millions of years, but the Tau are one of the main factions in 40K and they defeated Orks, Tyranids and fought toe on toe with the Imperium and survived.
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The Tau fought toe-to-toe with a tiny fraction of the Imperium. While they may match up fairly well against the Imperium on an individual basis, comparing the two is like comparing a bug to an elephant. The elephant could squash the bug with a single step, but it's got more important things to worry about.
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It's more like the Imperium doesn't give a fuck about them, they have bigger fish to fry.Β
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Tau. They're one of my least favourite 40k factions, but they're still a 40k faction. Any race that isn't immediately wiped has got to be that special brand of op.
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The hivemind damned supremecy suit takes this. Toughly sixty feet a turn, with the ability to fire its fuck everything guns quite far (since I ignore weapons ranges as they are pretty outside of a few individual instances (krak missile, maybe basilisks), and has a shitload of anti infantry weaponry.
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for me it depends on one thing. how far away are thy from each other?
if they are far away from each other then the Tau (curse them to oblivion) curb stomp all. end of story.(lets face it some of the Taus most basic guns have a longer rang then most snipers rifles from other 40k races and compared to other games that aren't on par with 40k weaponryΒ well it not going to be pretty for them)
if they are closer to each other then........ there a much larger chance to Reapers will win. (which would be nice) (All Tau must die.)
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-Snicker- the Tau. The only race with arguably better firepower in the 40k universe are the Necrons, and considering the Tau have such a low presence in the warp/ psychic resistance, I doubt indoctrination would work on them. Also, their faith in the 'greater good' would also keep their minds safe unless the reapers mind-raped them one by one. Also, the Tau fight at maximum distance with full barrages, and their weapons trump ME weapons. so... I see this not going well for the reapers.
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That was my favorite part of the game lol.
Chaos god is trying to scare the Tau, and they think their helmets are on the fritz again.
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Part of it is naivety about the warp, the other is the Ethereals actively trying to keep knowledge of the warp from the citizens. but yeah. Dark Crusade had great lines.
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The Tau win. Unless the Reapers play it smart and steals WH40 technology and upgrades all their shit before they attack, in which case they could probably ROFLstomp the Tau.
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Reapers? Why in french they call them "moissoneurs"? Harvesteur? RΓ©colteurs and moissoneurs qui effectuent la moisson...
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Tau Is Like Geth A Synthetic And Synthetic Are Reaper Ally
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Tau aren't synthetics, they just use massive battle suits that look like robots
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Tau win, they vaporize everything in their line of sight with theri bloody pulse rifles.
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So do Reapers, except from city sized cuttle-fish ships literally designed to wipe out ANY and ALL sentient life in the galaxy, period.
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Except Tau use plasma weapons, Reapers use super heated steel. Lack of mass means that the shields on a Reaper wouldn't be as effective. Plus, everything in the 40K universe is permanently set to overkill. Their ships tend to be larger than HARBINGER!
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plasma does have mass. it's a state of matter.
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Yes, but it is not a SOLID mass, which is what the shields in ME are designed to deflect. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to breathe.
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you have a point, and I wasn't trying to argue, merely state a fact. I don't know exactly how plasma and kinetic barriers would react, but even if the the shield did block the mass and kinetic force of the plasma bolt/beam, the extreme heat of the plasma would probably overload the barrier.
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I do think that was the point I was trying to make. The heat itself is so extreme (Thousands to millions) the barrier would either shatter, or wouldn't even effect the plasma.
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Plasma is not THAT hot.. plasma does exist in real life (often used for welding).. A bolt from the Tau's guns, even the big ones, would hold no more than 5-7000 degrees celsius (9032 -Β 12632 degrees farenheit).
the reapers would absorb a few hots before the shields broke, and by that time, they would have reached the planet.
Then millions upon millons of reaper ground forces would swarm the tau, and they would be no more
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probably break
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Depends. Can Reapers send in their ships/Destroyers planetside? If so then it's a stomp for sure, but otherwise the Tau have good chances at winning.
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Reaper Destroyers may only number in the low thousands, while Capital Ships may only number in the low hundreds for this planet-wide engagement.
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So what do the tau have available?
also are there any neutrals? Any civilians?
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The battle takes place on this planet:
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The Tau have everything in this profile: www.scribd.com/doc/242031094/T⦠(Note, at some point in the future, this profile will be updated to include new units, make changes, etc.)
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Well these things have triple digit Kiloton firepower, even if they weren't keen on mass destruction it would take a lot to destroy them on the Tau side.With Kinetic Barriers stopping missiles and projectiles the Tau are left with energy weapons that would need large volume of fire to take them out. And the thing can still just run away if it feels theatened.
But as for troops the Tau take this.
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if we are pinning two armies against each other then it will be reapers cuz hey are big yes but they have destroyed races and made what is left into reaper forces like what they did to the protheans and turned them into collectors we dont know how many are already inside a reaper shipΒ
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can we have gorguts ride that reaver into battle? so i choose reavers! they look scary and tau cant stand the great harvest
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Everyone seems to be forgetting that this is supposed to be a straight up fight between the two.Β since that is the case, Tau win.Β And before anyone says anything about me being Tau biased please know that I hate the Tau with a passion.Β Stupid Blue skins and their damn battle suits.
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You forget that you can't separate the Reapers from their drones, since they can and do indoctrinate species directly. So they'djust indoctrinate Tau to keep getting more and more ground forces and resources.
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you mean the Russian space fish communist?
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Good point, I should have said stupid blue skinned space fish communists and their damn Riptides
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Our skin is grey, oh pink one.
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I'd say more of a grayish blue
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It varies somewhat, I grant you.
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oh gawd I love meh riptide too much too much to insult him
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