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this is a better sm background and its warmer cos o the lighting :]if you want to use the dollie pattern i made it available here: [link]
ps: im working on that meme c-b0t
EDIT: march 3, 2008
i didnt like merc's pose. i did at first, but when i drew the other girls they ended up in mor natural poses. so i updated hers. plus im working on the rest of the outers ^^
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I mentioned you at my blog page .
Thanks for letting me use your design
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I love the design! Do you mind if use it in my drawing?
I'd love to make a realistic style digital painting using your costume design.
You could see some of my work here
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By all means. Thank you for asking
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I use your costume design for the sketch. You can see it here
I will write your name as the costume designer after I finish coloring the piece
Feel free to share your comments. Thanks!
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dawww<3 nice job with the nifty new outfits
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Very cute! I really like their new uniforms! I've actually tried redesigning them myself, but yours are much cuter. Would it be okay if I drew the Sailor Senshi with your uniform design?
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sure. i have to put up updated versions but my pc is off line at the moment. (im on my little brothers pc) they all have tiaras and merc doesnt have the buttons. merc also has different boots. they are like her original ones but with a light blue stripe on the soles of her shoes like my new moon pluto design.
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i love all their poses! mars has that foot forward like, steppin' out ready to go and then jupiter's back there showing off ze musleswhile mercury just looks ahead in that good girl way and moon and venus are smiling at each other coyly-everyone's so in character! you did that so incredibly perfectly. and the outfits are awsome too! unique enough and uniform enough. good blend.
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I love your style! You should draw Sailor Chibi-Chibi. (Chibi-Chibi is not Chibiusa)
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i know who chibi chibi is. i may do one when my computer is fixed.
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Yay that would be great! I'm glad to here that I'm not the only one who still remembers Chibi-chibi. lol
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i have all the seasons and movies on dvd. i was starting up on the first season again. i cant believe he anime is almost 20 years old. well in three years, but still.
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Do you mind if I offer these designs on my cosplay site, in my new department dAsign?
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no bad, but why Jupiter is brown, no green?
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She is green, just a very dark green :3
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realy? hmmm...
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OMG now THIS is cool!! I love the redesigned outfits and how they're all unique. (I like Moon's in particular for some reason.) I also like the unique style you drew them in... it has a lot of personality
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I think my favorite part about this is that you made each one a bit unique, but at the same time still looking uniform and part of a team. Also, kudos on using their secondary colors on the skirts. That was a particularly nice touch.
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Gotta love it when people who know nothing about nothing, think they know it all.
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I think they are fine. I would get rid of mercury's buttons though. . . or place them else where.
Or maybe she could be wearing a closed vest
This is adorable. I think it's fine.
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ive been thinking of getting rid of the buttons. lol
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heh, unique?! Thise are NT's concept art costume designs
Naughty naughty!
Nice work though.
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Its a similar idea, in terms of redesigning the outfits, but they are not Naoko's designs. By comparison, her outfits are different.
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im sorry, but i think youre mistaken. i made up these designs.
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I think you need to look at some of her art books agian. The designs are quite close to her concept art. Not exact... but quite close.
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if you mean these [link] [link] then you may need to look at them again. these are the only concept drawings i know of and have ever seen. other than the finalized concept drawings she used for their appearances in the manga. and of corse my versions are going to be similar to the originals, im not trying to completely reinvent them, im just trying to revamp them. one last thing, if you did mean these drawings then i guess ami sort of resembles my version, but thats it.
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Those would be the ones yes.
I guess I should have specified. The characters are well drawn.. but the style of the costumes are not terribly unique. They take some from the cannon version, some from the concept drawings and some from other Anime as well. (no need to list point by point but the remarkable resemblance to one in particular isn't lost on me.)
I would have rather seen something entirely orginal and less influenced by other artests for this sort of thing.
Yes, they ARE different than her concpt drawings. Somewhat. I retract my earlier statement and in it's place say the clothing styles, while attractive and well drawn, are not in general very original. They are typical to the medium at hand.
This is not a bad piece. If it was her characters in the style of another artest, then it would be a cute tongue in cheek piece.
I guess it's just a style preference on my part. I don't like traced work or images that are presented as orginal work when really it's a photoshop over a photo either.
I'd rather see your own version of NT's work, not someone else's unless you are making a joke about it like doing the SS's in the style of DBZ.
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"I don't like traced work or images that are presented as orginal work when really it's a photoshop over a photo either."
Darling, don't be a hypocrite... all your Sailor Moon images are obviously traced.
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Hmm.. really? Cause I don't recall ever seeing ANY anime pictures of Kakku in her fuku... nor any of the quartette for that matter.
Yup. I started with base images so I'd get the perportions correct. I belive said image was about 2x5. Not exactly an ideal image for tracing.
Also, each and every one of those is drawn in their entirety.. something I really wouldn't have been able to do if I'd traced them.
Yes. I used that base image to get their perportions right. I don't recal there being any hipocracy involved in using a photo of the subject to draw or paint the image.
Don't belive me? Fine. I was planning on doing each character individually anyways.
I wasn't going for orginality in that piece. I was trying to accurately recreate her work to improve my own style.
I guess you thinking I traced it means I got it right.
Thank you.
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Fanart of Kakku and the Quartet are wonderful right? Good copying material IMO
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Hehe.. I should have thought of fanart.. I had to dig out my artbook and my manga to find out what NT thought she should look like.
Had fun drawing her though. She has beautiful eyes.
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okay i did not set out to make something completely, i set out to revise the original concept of the senshi, while still staying true to the style and esthetics of n.t.'s design. i was just offended to have you say i i copied her concept drawings and said it was my design. when i took hours to individualize each senshi while staying in the lines of the sailor moon design. its a lot harder than im sure it looks.
and whats this with the "traced work or images" statement? i dont know if you are now implying i have traced other peoples work, but i could present the sketches if needed.
you have said its a nice piece, and im thankful for that, but dont go around posting comments about stealing or copying peoples work when you are wrong. (you originally said i copied the concept drawing and sorry to continue to stress this, but you are wrong) and one last thing, you didnt know what my intentions with this piece were, so to say its pulling from the anime n.t.'s stuff and what not is true, but it was MEANT to do that. again, to stay with in the style and esthetics i feel are needed to stay true to sailor moon, but changing it up at the same time.
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So you missed the part where I retracted my orginal statement I'm guessing?
As I said.. in this, the short short version... your drawing while very well done, looks a bit like you ploped someone else's very familiar costume designs on them.
I do actually know how hard it is to keep true to her style. I just got accused of tracing the images I did as well.
The main differences is I took the critique for it's intended purpouse. A crituque. Nothing more. Nothing less. Not an attack on me perosnally nor on my drawing ability. I accepted the comment gratiously and said thank you for your input.
Now granted, I'm sort of amused I did such a good job getting the anime style right that I got accused of tracing too. Much like the doll cloths I make that I get accused of them being store bought cause no one can sew that nicely at home. Every time that happens at a show, I grin ear to ear and tell them to have a nice day. Because I know I personaly cut out ad stitched each and every piece.
Sometimes.. being told you coppied is a backwards complement.
Take it as such.
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i realized you retracted the original statement, but when presented with proof that i didnt copy those sketches you chose another reason why they werent original. thats basically why i keep replying haha . . . you said i copied something i didnt, then you said they werent original, and even brought up something about tracing. we can obviously disagree on a few points, but i dont like accusations of design theft, or tracing. you may feel free to take it as a backwards compliment, but dont expect other people to do so. just please watch what you say, out of respect to other artists.
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Hmmm.... I see how you could misintrepet this as something other than a critique...
Lets say I invent this new game.. You take a stick and hit a ball and run around until someone stops you or you reach the safe zone.
Wait, no... that's baseball.
No no.. it's played by girls and the ball is bigger and the rules are a little different...
Um.. ok.. so no.. that's softball...
No no... it's really not like that, I invented this myself.
See where I'm going with this? Just because I invent a new game to ME doesn't mean no one else hasn't already done something so similar that my idea isn't orginal at all. At least, not to someone who already is familiar with baseball.
Manga/Anime has a long and rich history that spans decades. Perhaps you just aren't old enough to know the costumes look like a cross between NT's concept art of Mercury and a space opera from the late 80s. Sadly, not only am I old enough, but I probably have some of the manga around somewhere as well.
The point I keep making that you are so obviously missing is this: I recognized the outfits as based on something familiar. You not realizing that they resemble someone else's work no more invalidates my observation than you thinking I'm a disrespectful jerk for being honest does.
There is a lot more repsect in giving your honest evaluation, knowing it might not be what the person wants to hear than there is in lying to make someone feel better.
There is nothing wrong with your style, composition or artistic ability. THIS IS NOT A PERSONAL ASSAULT! Stop taking it as one.
This is also in no way a reflection on any of your other art.
If I dress up Sailor Moon as a princess in Cinderella's dress... and then say it's my own idea... I'm going to get called out on it by SOMEONE who remembers Cinderella eventually.
If I did that, even on accident because I'd not seen Cinderella since I was 5 and didn't consiously remember what the dress looked like... my reaction to their comment would be.. oops... hah ha... I didn't catch that.. and then change my description so people wouldn't think I was taking credit for someone else's idea even though it was not at all intentional.
Hence the reason why I clearly and freely state on my own work when it's practice stuff that I used source material. As do many other DAs. It's courtious to do so.
Every artest gets a review they don't agree with from time to time. None of us ever LIKE being told something could use some work. I've getten enough of my share to have learned, however, that people don't tell you these things to be hurtful, they are trying to help you be a better artest in the future.
I'm sure this is your goal?
No one ever got better at anything by being told lies so they don't feel bad about themselves.
The best teacher I ever had was a high school composition teacher who gave me bad grades for not working to MY potential not for not working to the accepted standard. I'd have just gotten another meanigless A that way. She made me a much better writer in the long run. I thanked her for those Cs the day I graduated for teaching me the value of streching myself to my potential instead of just letting me coast like everyone else did. For forcing me to put honest work into my writing instead of only working as hard as I had to.
It was probably one of the most valuable lessons I ever learned.
Forgive me for trying to pass that lesson on.
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stop, just stop.
i am fully aware of the fact im recycling an old idea. IM REINVENTING SAILOR MOON FOR A COMIC. im not saying, "hey heres this awesome story i just made up and here are the cool characters in it. oh the story already exists? well i never heard of it, i just made this up."
no. i am REWORKING an old idea. you just keep trying to find ways to make those designs not mine. no matter what, everything, to some extent, has been done before. originality doesnt really exist. maybe these designs look like that anime from the 80s, but i never saw it. so answer me this, how can i copy something ive never seen before?
i like critiques as much as anyone else. but not when the person specifies a piece of work that they think i copied and when presented with that work changes their answer when they see i didnt copy that specific work.
and what is it you meant by the tracing? thats the only thing that really bothered me. i honestly just wanted to show you i didnt copy any designs and claim them for my own. but you just cant accept that.
you dont critique some one by accusing them of stealing. especially when they havent.
main points
1. you said i stole the designs from n.t. and claimed them for my own. even telling me to look at the art books when i said you were mistaken.
2. i showed you the work and the vast differences between the two, and you changed your answer to me stealing ideas from places i dont even know of. (that 80s anime?)
3. you brought up tracing and photoshoping and then never backed up your accusations when confronted on that.
4. you are making this about things its not. this is about what is listed above. if you were to give me a critique about how its drawn that would be different, but you are critiquing it "unoriginality" even though its not original, rather a new twist to something old.
do you see now? or will you continue to change your mind about how and what im copying?
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Do the words chill out mean anything to you?
Stop stressing over a critique. You are investing WAY too much time and emotion into someone else's opinion.
Let it go already. My previous comments required no response at all.
And I didn't waste my time reading yours. Not because I don't respect you. I do, regardless of what you think and belive of me. I also retracted eironious statements and restated them in the way I actually meant. At a glance I see you are still dwelling on my earlier responses and not their intent nor why I corrected them.
The reason I didn't read it is simply this... Unlike you, when someone says my stuff isn't very orginal, I don't take it personally.
Life is harsh enough without looking between the lines for every imagined slight. You don't even know me which means my opinion should be worth the grain of salt you should have taken it with.
Stop trying so hard to be right. Stop trying so hard to prove I'm wrong. Opinions are just that. Not facts, just personal observations.
And if mine changed it was because I had longer to think about it than I did in my orginal response.
Stop wasting your time stressing over this. It's not worth it.
Nor is taking it personally.
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im not stressing this, i just think youre trying to hard not to be wrong. if you read the last reply you would have seen i summarized this whole stupid "confrontation".
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Confrontation implies there was actually a fight. Perhaps you were. I was not.
Opinions are like butt holes sweetie. Everyone has one. Most of them stink.
Don't take stuff so seriously ok? It makes people afraid to comment at all.
Today I was told by another artest I need to work on hands. Know what? She's dead right. I do. I looked at the piece in question, and then told her I agree.
Had I not agreed, I still would have thanked her for her input and moved on.
There are two ways you could have gratiously handled the situation. You could have thanked me for my input, or you could have said nothing.
There is nothing at all to be gained from arguing with critics of any sort. If someone does not like my writing, arguing with them will not make them like the story better. Nor will quibbliing over technicalities that I belive they are wrong about. In fact, it will just turn them off from looking at the next thing I do.
My very first impression was nice perportions, the composition could use a little work, followed shortly by me opening the picture and having an immediate sense of familiarity. Mistakenly, I assumed it was because of the concept drawings. An opinion I retracted and revised to what they really did remind me of after I'd had time to think about it.
That did not at all displace my sense of overfamiliarity with the costumes.
Sometimes this happens to all of us. Me too. The way to handle such things is not to argue and tell the person they are wrong. This accomplishes nothing whatsoever. Sometimes we get so emotionally attached to our stuff we can't really see it from an outside point of view any more. That's why all of us are here.
I'm glad I was told my hands were wrong on that one picture so I can fix it and be a better artest.
Comments we DON'T like are as or more valuable than comments we do like. The latter bosts our ego to submit more work, the former makes us work harder to be better next time.
You are more than welcome to disagree with me and think I'm dead wrong. I'm just as entitled to stick to my own opinion.
The main difference on how each of us handled this is I stood firm and explained my stance without attacking your opinions. I explained MY views... I didn't complain about yours. I also did something else... I admitted when I mistated... I admitted to where I was wrong.
Taking pride in your work is a good thing. Taking so much pride in it that you can't stand any disagreement will hurt you more as an artest than thinking all your stuff is terrible would.
I have a reputation for being blunt... people know where they stand with me at all times. But I'm not in the habit of being mean or hurtful. Because of that, most people I know, even if it's not what they WANT to hear, value my input because they know I won't lie to save face.
I'm sorry I told you something you didn't want to hear in a way you didn't want to hear it.
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Sorry, scpg89. There is little that bother me in this world, but I just have to "wintehfitzontehnet" as some would say.
"heh, unique?! Thise are NT's concept art costume designs
Naughty naughty!
Nice work though."
Is not a critique, nor will it ever be. You were certainly not trying to pass down to us yougin's the wisdom of your years, or trying to improve his work in any way. What so ever. I could understand if you spent your time giving a good critique, and then he jumped all over you. However, this you did not do, instead you gave him.. that. Yeah, I see the "nice work, though" but THAT DOESN'T HELP EITHER.
Despite the nice little tid bit at the end, your comment was rude, distasteful, and shows a lack of maturity.
And YES, this last statement was a personal attack on YOU, and YES I am rude, distasteful, and have a great big lack o' maturity. Damn proud of it too.
I'm glad you finally admitted your mistake, but it would have better been admitted about.. oh... ten pages back. A simple "opps my bad" would have worked.
-Luna
P.S. Just because you use civil language, which he (she) did to for the most part, doesn't mean your the up standing victim in this exchange. It's condescending, especially when you talk around and around and around in circles about nothing in general just to sound wise.
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Ayyyh... whatever dude.
Tell you what... come back in 20 years or something and we'll talk about being civil as opposed to just flinging insults.
Your lack of sense of humor at the orginal comment (which was meant tongue in cheek and was never ment to be anything more than a joke in the first place) and/or failure to notice I changed my comment to a more specific critique in the next one as opposed to an off the cuff remark really isn't my problem buddy.
At no point did I attack. There is no victim. And if you think she's too thin skinned to handle being told the truth or what someone thinks is the truth perhaps you should put her in a pretty little fluffy padded box and protect her from the world. I doubt that would go well as I'm under the impression she can handle real life.
I disagreed in a civilized mature way, which you admit to.. but still lable said disagreement as an attack.
As for talking in circles... sometimes I do that to remain cival and polite and not make insults where they are not warrented.
So basically what you are saying it it's ok for anyone to attack and insult me but it's not ok for me to defend my opinion or define it? Correct?
And you lable me the bad guy.
And yah.. I REALLY get the irony here where I still have yet to insult anyone back so far in spite of some of the things that have been said to me.
Sadly, I cannot bring myself to lower myself to that sort of thing just so fingers can be pointed at me.. there.. seee.... we told you she's the bad guy after we poked her with sticks for days she bit us.
I've played this game before and I'm not fooled by such tactics in the slightest.
Got something useful to add WITHOUT making it personal.. have at it.
Feel like spouting off again, go ahead, but your waisting your time. I don't rise to being baited.
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Sorry, I didn't read any of that. Not because I don't respect you, because I DO.
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Har har har...
It is to laugh.
Knowing when to dismiss an emotional response to avoid turning a valuable disagreement into a useless fight is one of those things you eventually learn how to do.
One hopes.
But then, yah, you're already perfect so you don't need to learn that skill.
Might be in your interest to read what I wrote to the author instead of dwelling so much on your attempts to insult me as much as you can manage.
She seems to have done a fine job of handling this herself without your 'help'.
Perhaps next time, you should give her some credit for being able to think for herself. I did.
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