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Masked Dwarven Warriors, representing terrible and horrid human faces.

Often among dwarves of the south of Aels, they craft their warmasks after the enemies they have fought and defeated. and such, other dwarves -and their enemies- know they are in front of dangerous, veteran warriors.

In such cases, is often seen among them, southern aelian dwarves wearing masks that portrait the fangs of orcs, elven ears, human -and even dwarven- faces and so on.


The Dwarven helmets here are actually based/are historical -and creepy- slavic helmets.

I don't know why, but it seems in middle ages, bizantine armies -and later Slavic armies... maybe due some influence?- liked warmasks, "chainmail" masks and such quite much.
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Comments: 57

Shabazik In reply to ??? [2013-10-16 17:41:08 +0000 UTC]

Not, until you made me google for it!

You mean this one?

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Cleansheets In reply to Shabazik [2014-09-27 14:02:43 +0000 UTC]

That's the one. If you look carefully you can even see the "stubble". Quite a mysterious piece.

Happy new year!

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mhm98 [2013-10-02 13:00:15 +0000 UTC]

Pretty cool!

I wanna have a mask like that!

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Shabazik In reply to mhm98 [2013-10-03 13:50:58 +0000 UTC]

^-^

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momentspause [2013-09-19 20:18:09 +0000 UTC]

I like the old-school D&D feel of this - like a 1st Ed. PHB or DMG illustration.Β 

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Shabazik In reply to momentspause [2013-09-26 14:06:57 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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wardude69 [2013-09-19 11:42:41 +0000 UTC]

swear ive seen that helmet design in either morrowind or skyrim

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Shabazik In reply to wardude69 [2013-09-26 14:06:53 +0000 UTC]

I wouldn't be too surprised, as when one reference to real, historic equipment, is possible many people to have done the same!

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wardude69 In reply to Shabazik [2013-09-27 14:23:12 +0000 UTC]

now i remember: the golems have those masks as faces !

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yellowplasma [2013-09-16 18:17:35 +0000 UTC]

Interesting that the dwarves wear masks of their enemies. Β It is like a warning to future enemies that says "We shall vanquish you too!" Β The picture is beautifully archaic.

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Shabazik In reply to yellowplasma [2013-09-16 23:09:45 +0000 UTC]

Yes, it's some sort of warning to their enemies! Glad you liked it!

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Stholm [2013-09-16 09:13:44 +0000 UTC]

The helmets remind me exactly of a hungarian reenactment group whom dress as kun warriors. Also some slav-rus helmets I see there! Awesome, just awesome .

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Shabazik In reply to Stholm [2013-09-16 14:18:19 +0000 UTC]

Many thanks STholm! Glad you liked them!!

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Demialc-neeb-sah-em [2013-09-14 22:58:22 +0000 UTC]

Y'know, Uncanny valley is miles more creepy than a blank or even demonic-looking face. I'll keep that in mind.

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Shabazik In reply to Demialc-neeb-sah-em [2013-09-15 12:25:10 +0000 UTC]

Just googled for "uncanny valley": formerly the concept was unknown to me, but I had "sensed" it. Very true!

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Jarreltheluckyone [2013-09-14 11:25:08 +0000 UTC]

When i see that i think about many things. Of course, the immortals in the movie 300.

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But i think mainly about carnivals groups om Belgium: Blancs moussy (Stavelot), les gilles (Binche).

The masks of your dwarves warriors look verylike those folklorics masks.

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Tssss! That's the dwarves! When they go to war, they must look like if they're going to the fest, or for the carnivals!

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Shabazik In reply to Jarreltheluckyone [2013-09-15 12:14:33 +0000 UTC]

Hadn't seen so far 300... which I sort of regret, as I only know some parts of the movie. XD

Dwarves like so much fighting, that's a carnival for them! XD

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JCkross [2013-09-14 06:46:11 +0000 UTC]

Wow esto se ve genial

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Shabazik In reply to JCkross [2013-09-15 12:13:03 +0000 UTC]

gracias!

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C05M0NAUT [2013-09-14 01:44:05 +0000 UTC]

They all look like they're laughing. Hohoho. :>

"The laughing Ones"->you won't be laughing when you're dead.

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Shabazik In reply to C05M0NAUT [2013-09-15 12:13:14 +0000 UTC]

Interesting name!

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lobo297 [2013-09-13 15:39:19 +0000 UTC]

Gentelmen dwarf's always know how to be a gentelman dwarf

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Shabazik In reply to lobo297 [2013-09-13 18:53:55 +0000 UTC]

X3

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DerPidder [2013-09-13 14:55:23 +0000 UTC]

Must be a total shock to face a dwarf in full armor and having your great-uncle Wilbur staring back at you... o.O

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Shabazik In reply to DerPidder [2013-09-13 18:53:50 +0000 UTC]

yes indeed. D:

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DerPidder In reply to Shabazik [2013-09-14 13:21:30 +0000 UTC]

What if one Dwarf is deathly afraid of heights and has just recently faced his fears and overcome his altitude sickness? Would his helmet look like a (pun intended) cliff face?

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Shabazik In reply to DerPidder [2013-09-14 13:48:12 +0000 UTC]

XD Yeah, why not?

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DerPidder In reply to Shabazik [2013-09-14 13:55:59 +0000 UTC]

"Seriously, Gloinli, what's with the red nose and the painted cheeks on your helmet?!"
"Clowns are scary. Believe me."

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Shabazik In reply to DerPidder [2013-09-14 14:10:54 +0000 UTC]

So scary! XD

yes, this can be quite a theme!

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Billie-Bonce [2013-09-13 12:38:31 +0000 UTC]

Honestly, I haven't heard about such usage of masks in my part of Slavic world. For me, they are more associated with Western culture.

And, well, the right one reminds me this: rt.com/files/usa/news/anonymou…

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Shabazik In reply to Billie-Bonce [2013-09-13 18:53:07 +0000 UTC]

From what I see there : members.ozemail.com.au/~chrisa… Such helmets DO seem to have been as well part of Ukraine military history -and russian one-, however from an earlier period than other helmet designs?

The masked helmets seem to be from around the 10 to 13 century.

Meanwhile, in western culture helmets of middle ages, I don't find many helmets with warmasks ad such, as the facial protection seems to have evolved in other direction.


and: lol! yes, I see the similarities!

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Billie-Bonce In reply to Shabazik [2013-09-14 19:15:23 +0000 UTC]

These two helmets with masks were the first two that I have ever seen. And it seems, the author mentions only the two specimens of such helmets. I have to say that all the other types of helmets from that article are familiar to me - I have seen such helmets in museums, in books, in movies. I suppose, those masks were rare. But they did exist! So, I stay corrected.Β 

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Shabazik In reply to Billie-Bonce [2013-09-15 01:42:36 +0000 UTC]

Studying further, it seems these kind of masks where more common among the Kpischaks (? I don't think this is how is written the name in english?) and the Petchengs, and it seems it was a later, foreign and steparic influence in Slavic helmet designs with facial protection: may that be the reason why they are helmets traditionally represented in Ukranian folklore and common memory of the middle ages of the area!

-Thinking of it... it's my idea, or in general, Ukranian historians is mostly centered in ethnic ukranian, cossaks and such, rather than the other, steparic peoples that lived there, the muslim folks, or other peoples that lived -even for centuries- in Ukraine, and then moved out?

I don't know, but my question is wondering, how is teached history of Ukraine?-

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Billie-Bonce In reply to Shabazik [2013-09-15 11:24:12 +0000 UTC]

Do you mean Kipchaks? A well known people here, the Slavs called them Polovtsi. As I see, Spanish articles in Wikipedia distinguish them es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pueblo_K… es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumanos , but if you switch to English page, you'll see that in the text they clearly say that Kipchaks (and not only Cumanos) were called Polovtsi in Rus, and if you switch to Russian pages, Cumanos will lead to ΠŸΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠ²Ρ†Ρ‹, Kipchaks will lead to ΠšΠΈΠΏΡ‡Π°ΠΊΠΈ, and on both pages there is a proposition to merge these two pages. Yes, I see a familiar face on Kipchaks page! And yes, I see a lot of pictures of Kipchaks masked helmets.

Of course we learn who lived on the territory of Ukraine. I am not a professional in history, and I never learned it well (despite I managed to get good marks at school), so I basically can't answer your question. I don't know what they teach today in schools.

But I can tell for sure that Ukraine is (and always was) a disputable territory between various nations, and for several centuries - between three great empires (Russian, Osman, and Habsburg). That's why the interpretation and teaching of history always was a political instrument here, and unfortunately it is not any good now. The origins the Ukrainians, the meaning of the name of the country, the role of the Cossacks, the role of Bohdan Khmelnytsky, the role of Yarema Vyshnyvetsky (or, as the Poles prefer, Jeremi WiΕ›niowiecki), the role of Ivan Mazepa, the history of Ukrainian language - everything has two or more opposite descriptions, one of which usually becomes "official", and often only the official interpretation is allowed to be taught in schools (because otherwise it may be interpreted as a questioning of the territorial integrity or sovereignty of Ukraine). Currently, each change in our Government or Parliament, not to mention the President, may result (and often results) in change of official opinion...

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Savachika [2013-09-13 12:36:26 +0000 UTC]

Oh, nice! I saw Tagancha style helmet on the right on warrior with war hammer. There are very much interesting details on picture. Β This is good! Β 

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Shabazik In reply to Savachika [2013-09-13 18:53:39 +0000 UTC]

Many thanks!

I don't know the names of these old helmets and such, and I did some changes to make more "dwarvish" the helmets designs!

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theubbergeek2 [2013-09-13 11:52:47 +0000 UTC]

Itr reminds me also of Anglo-saxons warriors (the ancestors of modern englishes with the normands and all) and some fantasy stuff as 300

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Shabazik In reply to theubbergeek2 [2013-09-13 18:56:07 +0000 UTC]

Anglo-Saxons? I don't recall much of them wearing such types of helmets, thought!

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theubbergeek2 In reply to Shabazik [2013-09-13 19:12:29 +0000 UTC]

The pointy helmets no, but some form of facial masks - there was a famous discovery at Sutton Woo...

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Chizzil [2013-09-13 11:08:49 +0000 UTC]

The warmasks are pretty cool, its actually based off an older armor design adopted from the parthians and other central asian cavalry oriented groups, they do look intimidating and that's probably the point. Great work as always Shabazik!

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Shabazik In reply to Chizzil [2013-09-13 18:46:18 +0000 UTC]

I suppose it's so: normally, armor and helmet styles have their own influences. The ones I bassed them off where slavic helmets, but slavic armament was indeed influenced by stepparian raiders and such armors!

Many thanks!

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KO-Corral [2013-09-13 09:42:55 +0000 UTC]

It's very creepy - I think it's mostly the empty eyes and that design motif that is so removed from our modern ways that there's no way to relate to it.

The one on the far right is probably the worst - and it's MOST human! : O In fact, it reminds me of the Burger King "King" from a few years ago. He was SO weird looking and made so many of my friends uncomfortable that THAT became his charm. I don't know if he ever made it to Chilean advertisements, so:

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia…

(The file name even has 'creepy' in it! XD )

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Shabazik In reply to KO-Corral [2013-09-13 18:45:06 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

Creepy burger king is creepy. XD

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KO-Corral In reply to Shabazik [2013-09-13 23:04:25 +0000 UTC]

They really were just the worst. πŸ‘: 0 ⏩: 0

larqven [2013-09-13 02:03:27 +0000 UTC]

Interesting!Β  Although it would seem to me that reduced vision and air would more than offset any psychological benefit of the masks?

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Plus, I have to wonder about the usefulness of taking on the faces of folks that have been defeated.Β  But it might represent a severely creepy effect of recognition of the future enemies facing those masks, or supposed recognition.Β  I seem to recall conquisidors or supposedly recognized the faces of fallen comrades amidst shrunken heads...

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This seems to be an odd practice for straight-laced folks like dwarves.Β  But it is craftsmen-like!Β 

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Shabazik In reply to larqven [2013-09-13 18:39:28 +0000 UTC]

Yes, but seems war masks where mostly used by the cavalry? In dwarven cases, they don't mind layers and layers of armor. XD

conquisidors -> Conquistadores?

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larqven In reply to Shabazik [2013-09-14 08:11:00 +0000 UTC]

My ability to spell was lacking, it seems.Β 

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Shabazik In reply to larqven [2013-09-14 11:32:25 +0000 UTC]

bah, don't worry, is a foreign language! :3

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Savachika In reply to larqven [2013-09-13 12:53:07 +0000 UTC]

Although it would seem to me that reduced vision and air would more than offset any psychological benefit of the masks?

Full masked helmets were only for cavalry and warriors in these helmets seat on horse back not runing on the foot. And opposite to full mask halfmask is very comfortable. Β 



I seem to recall conquisidors or supposedly recognized the faces of fallen comrades amidst shrunken heads...

In real history of Kiyvan Rus once after battle wounded prince was almost killed by own city militia becouse they didn't recognize him under mask. Common people knew princes face not his armor. But in last moment after firs head strike prince managed to remove his helmet.

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theubbergeek2 In reply to larqven [2013-09-13 11:53:36 +0000 UTC]

There seem to be a certain psychological effect in 'removing' the visages of soldiers and cops on the opposition, its kinda more intimidating

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