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I have done so little with vampires in the World of Aiers.
There's a reason because of that:
I don't know what to do with them. I know I want them to be aierian demons... that meaning, not being actual-demons, but some other creature that poses as demons. And they wouldn't have a lot of powers traditionally associated with vampires...
but right now I'm sleepy to write further... tomorrow I will write some more of my ideas, but for now
Let's discuss about vampires in the World of Aiers.
Do you have some interesting ideas with them you would want to share, before I "contaminate" with my own ideas in this regards?
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An important part of what I decided among vampires in Aiers was, finally, due World of Aiers being no more only a personal fantasy setting a project, but something a bit bigger, with many other artists and writers deciding to take a part on it, with their own stories and takes.
One thing I hadn't ever considered with the demons of Aiers, who aren't really demons from hell but creatures contained in their soulstones and their soulshard servants, which became a key point in some of the stories of some of these other artists -as Walt-Marsters , theirishdreamer and Shiftingpunk , and some comments of larqven as samples-, was basically the following question:
what would happen if somebody who isn't a constructed vessel of a demon lord, gets a demonic stone?
The first time this question was asked was in a story of Walt-Marsters about the Fall of Roccasone and kanyiko 's character Pumori White Fang, where one of the antagonists characters -a human- had made a pact with the demons to betray his own kind, to ascend and become himself a demon, a host of a soulstone of a bazrrod demon lord.
Originally, I didn't considered this, and my first impulse was to say no... but artistic freedom is important, and specially as the ritual where this union of men and demon stone didn't happened, I decided not to interfere.
Then, inspired by the story of the Fall of Roccasone, theirishdreamer had in a story set in the aftermath of the fall of Roccasone and the invasion of the kingdom of Degoland by the dark legions of demons, other character: an elf sorceress, who had escaped a similar fate. I don't quite remember if this was stated in the story itself, or was part of the comments and discussion with larqven , who pondered how the return of the demons from their exile would mean a lack of constructed vessels / bodies for them, so they would probably try to seize for their own use the bodies of elves and other creatures with magical abilities (maná manipulation).
From this time on, I was open to the idea, and since then, more of such characters and ideas had appeared...
then I thought: to begin with, I have vampires, and have done nothing with them -In an important part, because due many of my internal rules of the setting limiting magic abilities, meant they couldn't do many of the things Vampires are traditionally linked with-. And then, due the creativity of other persons, I have now an idea I hadn't personally considered: non-demonic peoples, non-constructed, serving as vessels to demonic soulstones and shards.
Then I thought... what if I link these two together?
THE VAMPIRES OF THE WORLD OF AIERS
- Of Demons and Soulshards.
The Demons of Aiers, despite their name and their claims, and what had written aierian demonologists aren't real demons from Hell or creatures from other plane, of a metaphysical nature: While there were many discussions about their true nature, and the theological implications if there really existed such things as demons, the Demons of the World of Aiers are energy creatures -living maná-, but who to exist, to be conscious, are linked to the Soulstones.
A demon possessing a Soulstone is what among the daemoni -the demons of Aiers- is called a Bazrrod demon lord, the primogenitor, first of the demons.
But no matter how powerful a Soulstone: without a body, they have no way to enact their will upon the world.
So Demons need vessels for their stones. And these vessels -these constructs-, which can be of bone and flesh -produced by blood wizards- or of iron and oil and other materials -constructed by powerful artificers- can be of all sorts of sizes and forms, limited only in their smallest size to the size of the soulstone, and as big as said soulstone is able to control the body: because of this, demon lords exist of all shapes and forms, with the artists shaping their bodies often taking inspiration from nature, but sometimes as well from terrible imagination...
or from the religion of their enemies, shaping their bodies as the demons and monsters of the legends of others, to inspire fear and command respect.
The Bazrrod Demon Lords can as well produce fragments from their Soulstones: these are the so called Soulshards. Linked to their will, these shards can be given to give live to new bodies and vessels, and in this way are born the Soulshard Demons or simply Demons, second in their rank to the Bazrrods Demon Lords. Created at the will of their Bazrrod Demon Lords masters, these shards can have a conscience, or be dormant, and just be used as a power source.
A Demon Lord can create a soulshard as big and powerful they want, but they have a limit to their creation: as each shard is taken from the soulstone, each shard and each new servant weakens the Bazrrod Demon Lord.
So while initially the demon lords were content with this way to create new servants, as they extended their empire in Aiers -the Demonic Republic first, then the Confederation of Free Peoples, often called the Dark Legion of Demons for it's army-, this system was insufficient.
While their enemies -humans, kanov, elves and dwarves, among others- couldn't destroy neither a soulstone or a soulshard, the physical bodies could be destroyed.
The artificers of the Dark legions where overburdened creating bodies and vessels to try to keep in the battlefield the most soulshards they could, and while powerful, they numbers where limited.
So was necessary a new way to produce vessels, and to expand their numbers, without critically weakening themselves in the process of splitting their soulstones...
The demons of Aiers -who as energy trapped in stones didn't had genders- once more time inspired themselves in the nature: not this time in the shapes for their bodies, but in the function: sexual reproduction.
And so, the Blood Wizards of the Dark Legion will create the first vessels with genders and reproductive capabilities -succubi and incubi-: This will be the origin of the Lesser Demons: lesser demons, because they weren't true demons as they lacked the soulstone or soulshard of the true demons... but they were the children of the blood and flesh of the vessels of the demons... and these bodies -naturally raised-, could as well be used in the same way as the constructions of Blood Wizards and Artificers: as vessels of demons.
But the demons needed time for these new vessels and servants to grow, to replenish their numbers in their wars against the Empire of the Librarians of Dume... then, they considered for the first time in their desperation, what until then had been a taboo among them:
To use the flesh and blood of mortals, as the vessels of their own.
To use the peoples of aiers as hosts of their stones...
and so, the first Vampires would be born.
- The Vampires of Aiers
A vampire in Aiers is the name given to a non-demonic host serving as a vessel to a demonic soulstone or soulshard.
This unholy union can be sometimes very unpredictable, and the extension of the powers of this vampire demon can vary greatly, as not all soulstones and soulshards are equal:
Often in the case of the soulstones of Bazrrod demon lords, the Bazrrod will totally overpower and destroy the will of the host -and any trace of himself or herself, before the union-. But some Bazrrods may be content with sometimes leaving some shreds of freedom to the previous owners of the bodies:
These vampires with a Bazrrod soulstone, would be considered a Bazrrod Demon Lord themselves, and would be able to achieve some of the same great feats of magic -maná manipulation- that Bazrrods can do in other, constructed vessels.
In the case of the of the vampires with soulshards, these as well can have great variation among them, but a key difference is if it's an awaken or dormant soulshard.
An awaken soulshard is a soulshard of a soulstone that have a will, personality and conscience in it's own, while a dormant soulshard doesn't. In the case of a awaken soulshard, there can be on the vampire either the total dominance of the demonic shard, an agreement between the shard and the host, sharing the body, or a perpetual, losing struggle between the host and the shard, until the shard finally breaks his will. In the case of a dormant soulshard, the host doesn't have to fight for the control of his own body, enjoying at the same time the extensive powers that could be granted by a demonic shard... but would always have the danger hanging over his head that the dormant shard could be awoken, either by the will of the Demon Lord that created the shard, or in it's own.
Other problem -specially in bodies of creatures that doesn't have an innate maná manipulation capability-, is that the presence of demon stone in their bodies is poisonous and corrupts the body of the host: one way to deal with this with the ingestion of blood -specially of creatures with innate maná manipulation capabilities as elves and draconids-: it is said that blood can help keep a soulshard dormant, or to avoid the total takeover of an awaken shard. The corruption of the body caused by the presence of an external object as the soulstone could result in some very acute symptoms, such as allergies to some magic-conductive metals, or intense fotosensitivity -but there could be other symptoms, and not always they express themselves equally-.
Taking the bodies of the peoples of Aiers, Vampires would be specially useful to the Dark Legion of Demons as ambassadors, spies and representatives of the Demons in front of other non-demonic peoples, as sometimes was easier for them to deal with humans, kanov, elves and dwarves.
Due their nature of both demons and their former selves, there are many myths and legends about the vampires, and sometimes was difficult to establish what they could and couldn't do, which was more difficult to determine due the various differences of power between different kinds of vampires -Vampire Demon Lords, Vampires and even lesser vampires, the children of the corrupted hosts-, but it was agreed that the vampires, while powerful, lacked the shapeshifting abilities of the Werewolves, and neither they could turn in bats or fog: but for how stealthy they could become, these stories originated. As well, like in the case of werewolves, in many stories the vampires could extend their cursed race by biting, or in other ways, but this wasn't neither the case. While there are vampires who bite to take blood, this wouldn't produce "vampirism" as a curse or a disease, but could result in several diseases or infection, and some vampires do "weaponize" this, but in other cases hygienic habits of vampires may offset this.
In general among the demons, the vampires are some of the less visible of them, as they could much easily blend with non-demon folks.
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Lana90 [2020-04-02 22:51:11 +0000 UTC]
Wow! A new race? Or did I miss this part of Aiers stories?
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Shabazik In reply to Lana90 [2020-04-02 23:25:32 +0000 UTC]
Old, existing race, but that before wasn't used because I hadn't clear what I wanted to do with them!
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Lana90 In reply to Shabazik [2020-04-02 23:58:00 +0000 UTC]
Good time to start)) Is there quarantine in your city?
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jssabotta [2020-04-02 08:14:33 +0000 UTC]
nice
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larqven [2020-04-01 23:37:33 +0000 UTC]
Interesting take on things. In a weird way, this returns vampires to an original conception of being 'demons' in that they are mortals who have been given a soulshard or stone, and are therefore possessed of a demon or its power at any rate.
In a manner of speaking, the host might even be thought of as 'undead' for its host mind being destroyed, and/or the physiological changes of the body.
Some bodies might well turn into shambling wrecks for being used up, burned out by the power and poison of the soul shard or stone. A demonic personality might be entwined by the needs of its host flesh for bizarre behavior reminiscent of zombies or vampires?
Elves and types of dragonfolk might make for more long lasting hosts.
I've always gravitated towards the needs of mana manipulation. That vampires and werewolves are shown with pointed ears didn't hurt the elf connection either! Elves as longer running and more stable hosts might well make them hosts of choice and lead to vampires as often having pointed ears!
Poor half elves being offered up as sacrifices by blood elf communities?
If I remember right, theirishdreamer had his elf/drow sorceress on the run from bazrrods looking for host bodies following their release; the implication being that they went after elves who had clear magic manipulation skill; so being an elf alone was not enough to make for a prime target; if one WAS a mana-manipulator blood elf or otherwise living in Polforia in those years, run away!
It wouldn't be surprising if some elf class of half elves and other elf undesirables developed and existed as potential bodies for bazrrods and their soulshards. 'Hey doroz! here's a way to get magic!' Albeit, lacking magic would seem to preclude much interest in the doroz as hosts, I suppose. Except maybe as breeding stock, unless all potential for even future generations to become mana generators is just permanently gone.
A soul stone certainly doesn't need any biological help to work magic. But blood sacrifices and consumption might protect the body from the soulstone. It might explain the horrid ritual that Roccasone's traitor prince underwent to receive a soulstone.
I've wondered if Satman commonly just uses regular human bodies as vessels as he always seems to just 'look like a normal man'.
On the other hand; I've also wondered if Saatan himself constantly gave birth to new bodies in some hermaphrodite way, explaining why he never seemed to be active.
Anyway, nice way of taking a hand on combining two questions.
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kaspermads23 [2020-04-01 18:16:22 +0000 UTC]
amazing work
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sohighlydubious [2020-04-01 13:09:28 +0000 UTC]
I love how mirror-shiny her outfit is...amazing work!
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larqven [2020-04-01 11:05:45 +0000 UTC]
I've often wondered why you haven't done more, as they'd be fairly dangerous even with lacking most traditional vampire powers.
It always seemed to me that the demons would use elves as the 'base' for most of their creations, so as to get natural mana manipulation in addition to giving up the all important and finite resource of soul ahards. Therefore, I see vampires as largely being yet another group of elves, or else a race of half-elves. Perhaps a 'sister race' to the werewolves, werewolves going towards transformation, vampires going towards a barely contained carnal nature? Perhaps mixed with a bat species but failing to transform, but having a supercharged metabolism and certain instincts?
Certainly, they could be dangerous demon agents who work to spread distrust of elves, while spreading plague like diseases?
Vampires being large and strong elves, who have super-charged physical abilities of speed and strength along with elven grace and dexterity; but have to avoid the light of day--or at least the light of high noon. They don't NEED to drink blood, but perhaps their instincts make it difficult not to?
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Shabazik In reply to larqven [2020-04-01 18:29:08 +0000 UTC]
Hello Larqven!
Here, after some discussions in the World-of-Aiers Discord -heyyyy, we all were wondering why you aren't a part of it... would you want to join? In these sort of discussions your imput will be greatly appreciated!- I came to a new, extended lore of vampires, now posted! Please tell me what you think!
Interesting idea of Vampires being almost a sub-race of elves... in the current cannon, maybe the "lesser vampires" could go in such direction!
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larqven In reply to Shabazik [2020-04-01 20:29:33 +0000 UTC]
I might join Discord, I've 'left' the previous chat largely due to it being an expenditure of time on scattershot subjects, some of which of little personal interest. And when the subjects are fascinating, they might be TOO new, too raw, half-baked ideas. I've 'learned' many things on chat of characters that never came to pass due to them just being early head-canon or being bad ideas or inadvisable.
Writing the dreaded walls of text seems to bring about better results, at least a basis of a few people building cooperatively building ideas.
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I imagine early vampires came equipped with soul shards, much like the first werewolves. I'll have to look at the new info.
It does suddenly occur to me of 'What If' vampires were thematically similar to Battleborn? Being powerfully built elves with retractable wings? The major difference being of vampires as terrifying secret agents, Battleborn being positive propaganda.
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cullyferg2010 [2020-03-31 21:19:42 +0000 UTC]
Such a lonely young lady who longs to have some sort of relationship. There are vampires that feed off of people's psyche instead of blood. They truly enjoy a party or large social gathering to draw the emotional energies to keep her a live. Edgar Allan Poe once wrote a story about a man who once followed such a creature. And they don't have to be restricted to a nighttime form of life.
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cullyferg2010 In reply to Shabazik [2020-05-08 02:57:24 +0000 UTC]
Would make an interesting drawing idea of a psychic vampire in the midst of a festival. Just passing along an idea.
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goldenavatar [2020-03-31 17:10:45 +0000 UTC]
I don't see how the undead could fit in world of Aiers as it would make them rivals to your demon lords as traditional vampires with all their abilities. However, if they're a result of the breeding program that created the grey orcs, why not apply that to them. They're the group that had fangs, slightly longer lives than other grey orcs, perfect nighttime vision, and increased sensitivity to sunlight.
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Shabazik In reply to goldenavatar [2020-04-01 18:24:41 +0000 UTC]
One of my hard rules of Aiers is "No Undead". So for sure, they wouldn't be undead, but instyead a kind of demons.
So no a rival to the demon lords, but part of their courts, or a kind of demon among their own!
Interesting idea of them being the result of a breeding program... will use an idea inspired from yours for their origins -as demons test subjects of a proof of concept!-
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goldenavatar In reply to Shabazik [2020-04-03 08:04:27 +0000 UTC]
If you find that it works for your world, by all means go ahead and use it. I'm curious to see what you do with it.
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rabrac [2020-03-31 17:08:32 +0000 UTC]
I would go a bit like the netflix show van helsing; vampirism is a virus (so for medieval society, a magical curse), giving you a thirst for blood, superior physical abilities and a deadly sun allergie.
But also, most of infected would not become vampire, either due to their metabolism sucessfully figthing of the virus or by been killed by the virus, explaining the very low number of vampire (maybe some races could be more/less suceptible?)
Also, with those symptoms, they are imeddiatly seen as monster/demon by society, wich force them to live hidden/in solitude to survive.
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Shabazik In reply to rabrac [2020-04-01 18:23:07 +0000 UTC]
Interesting suggestion!
Thought I do know I want the vampires to be some sort of demons, somehow.
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elfooscuro [2020-03-31 08:52:18 +0000 UTC]
If you sit like that with those boots they will end all scratched!
About the vampires: Maybe some kind of spirit that bonds with the host?
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Shabazik In reply to elfooscuro [2020-04-01 18:22:23 +0000 UTC]
Not the boots! D:>
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elfooscuro In reply to Shabazik [2020-04-02 10:29:22 +0000 UTC]
Now you have to apply Nivea to repair them XD
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Pbuckley [2020-03-31 08:06:02 +0000 UTC]
Not the most familiar with how your setting works, but maybe make them drink magic or mana via touch, or steal Prahna via the breath, something like that? Maybe let them keep the power of suggestion, but have it be more like they are alpha predators so they are able to overpower people with their presence inciting fear, or excitement, and have this extend to animals which they can dominate with their will, with a preference for "creatures of the Night" like wolves, cats, & bats.
You could also make them heat vampires with thermakinetic abilities to, so that covers the pyrokinetic abilities they sometimes have, and gives them an interesting feeding mechanic.
For a more original take on vampires I hear Lovecraft had a unique and singularly frightening take on the creature, perhaps look into that for inspiration.
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Shabazik In reply to Pbuckley [2020-04-01 18:21:44 +0000 UTC]
Very interesting!
Yes, power of suggestions seems nice as explained there!
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bunny75 [2020-03-31 05:29:23 +0000 UTC]
Well, one thing I have always wondered. What are told as ridiculous horror stories, if our ridiculous horror stories are true there?
Maybe those people are just normal people infected by slowly spreading disease, which makes bright sunlight painful to their eyes, so they only go outside at dark. Another symptom of occasional or timely paralyzation, where they appear as dead for eyes on uneducated folk. Together with mental illnesses or violent behavior those people will scare shit out of normal people and they became subjects of weird rumours.
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Shabazik In reply to bunny75 [2020-04-01 18:21:00 +0000 UTC]
While interesting, I do know I want my vampires to be demons, rather than just being a sickness!
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bunny75 In reply to Shabazik [2020-04-01 19:18:59 +0000 UTC]
Hmm. I did read a book two months ago written at from Sweden. They had vampires created by aliens with nanotech. Enhanced strength and speed. They could close off the feeling of pain and they had radiotelepathy and could transfer/receive images into their eyes. weak against ultraviolet light.
With demons, it could be bit of similar, except maybe some misused ancient archeotek or tiny shard of soulshard, which is needed to insert into the brain.
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lordofchange666 [2020-03-31 05:20:34 +0000 UTC]
The first question would be that of their nature. Are they undead, or just another creature? How many of the traditional weaknesses effect them?
Do other cultures in your world have myths about them? Are there any Dhampir? etc.
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Shabazik In reply to lordofchange666 [2020-04-01 18:20:14 +0000 UTC]
Since in Aiers there aren't undead, or spirits (or at least there aren't spirits, in the same way in our own world there "aren't" spirits, that's it, in a way we could currently demonstrate with positive proofs): they are indeed "demons". Not from other plane, but Aierian demons.
Yes, there are several vampiric myths about them in various cultures!
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CanRay [2020-03-31 04:42:51 +0000 UTC]
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Shabazik In reply to CanRay [2020-04-01 18:18:48 +0000 UTC]
D:
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Burksaurus [2020-03-31 04:00:10 +0000 UTC]
I think she is a beautiful vampire. I always wondered what kind of powers they have in your setting
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Shabazik In reply to Burksaurus [2020-04-01 18:18:33 +0000 UTC]
Many thanks!
I know for sure what NOT. Not undeads, no shapeshifting into fog or bats... these two, for sure not!
Ah! And NO sparkling!
XD
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Kearnaun [2020-03-31 03:42:42 +0000 UTC]
Well, I was pondering the idea of vampire based clone research projects for the Nebulosa of Ots. Whats the worst that could happen, eh? For science!
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scones33 [2020-03-31 03:29:56 +0000 UTC]
Awesome outfit!
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Shabazik In reply to scones33 [2020-04-01 18:17:38 +0000 UTC]
Many thanks!
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runewuff [2020-03-31 03:28:56 +0000 UTC]
Looks very cool!
OMG it's hard enough keeping up with the established lore of Aiers... let alone making up new stuff! Though I will say modern vampires disappoint me. The old legends, the original tales, will make your hair stand on end...
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Shabazik In reply to runewuff [2020-04-01 18:17:32 +0000 UTC]
Many thanks!
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terminator44 [2020-03-31 02:48:53 +0000 UTC]
I'm sure you'll do them just fine, if this wonderful drawing is anything to go by.
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Sparrow9612 [2020-03-31 02:04:30 +0000 UTC]
Their lack of common vampire powers might be why they would pose as demons. The fear of demons would give them an edge and some protection from attack. I don't know if Aierian vampires need blood, but it they do it could be because they have some genetic deficiency that requires them to consume plasma or protein to remain alive. Or they simply like the taste of blood, and its not so easy to acquire, when most of your prey is either protected or can kick your pale ass pillar-to-post.
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Shabazik In reply to Sparrow9612 [2020-04-01 18:17:01 +0000 UTC]
Originally I hadn't quite decided if they needed blood, but came with an interesting idea as result of a discussion!
(A vampire of Aiers is a non-demonic creature that have a demon soulstone. To keep the demon stone from overcoming the host, they need to drink blood!)
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