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Published: 2018-11-09 20:05:52 +0000 UTC; Views: 518; Favourites: 14; Downloads: 0
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Description For some drawings I have in plans, I needed a "past" version of Viviane... So I decided, why not draw one for my main trio?
So have past version of all my OCs! You'll all see them in future works.

-Long-haired Viviane! She used to live in Sufokia, before.Β 
-Adamante, wearing her former group's colors. A rough life for her.Β 
-Morgan used to look so different...

Morgan, Adamante and Viviane belong to me
Huppermage, ouginak and Shushu belong to Ankama
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Comments: 27

fiddee [2018-11-12 22:43:49 +0000 UTC]

Got to admit, Viviane rocks her long hair, and the outfit as well~ Very nice~ ^~^
Hang on..''Viviane'' ''Sufokia'' =_=.....*rushes to his cave of therorise again* (XD)

A life on the road is indeed rough, but a travling sword for hire...Even harsher.
Ada however is formidable fighter with vast experiance, so she'd probobly say it's a completly calm normal day for her no doubt.

Yes..Quiet diffrent, almost a completly diffrent Morgan...Care to share why she looks diffrent these days compared to back than?

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Shelter-Cat In reply to fiddee [2018-11-13 20:07:48 +0000 UTC]

I'm glad you like it! I knew I wanted her to have long hair but I never drew her with it before, so I wasn't sure if it would fit her. XD And I'm glad you like her outfit!Β 
*pokes head inside the theorizing cave* can I see? |'.')

She sure is used to it at this point! XD
But it does look like it's a quiet evening, at least.

Nice try, but as you may imagine, that'll be explained in the comics! XD

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fiddee In reply to Shelter-Cat [2018-11-18 19:12:59 +0000 UTC]

Her long hair fits her perfectly, I trust this isn't the last time we get to see her with her long hair, the outfit too for that matter! >w<
Nawh! This is my cave of theories. =_= *Russle around his massive ammounts of papers, scrolles and books* (XD)


After a while I imagien everyone does end up getting used to how things go, dosen't mean it get any easier though.
Alas, at least this evening she get's some alone time by the fire, and hey, at least it's not raining! ^^

More questions and more desier to get my hands on this comic of yours, Miss~ ^^

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Shelter-Cat In reply to fiddee [2018-11-19 17:51:09 +0000 UTC]

I mean, I would be annoyed if I had made this outfit only for it to be used if a couple drawings. XD But that's definitely not the last time we see her with long hair, because she had them for most of her life, the short hair is a relatively recent development. XD
Not even a little look? |'-')

Some things kind of become easier, but not all! But yeah, this is one of the easy days. XD

One day, I sure hope so! Now that I reached more than half the pages, I'm determined to end this! XD

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fiddee In reply to Shelter-Cat [2018-11-21 22:03:50 +0000 UTC]

It certainly would be a waste to use such a good looking outfit once, sadly I know some artist who only use really good one one's and it's always a shame to hear them say that. T^T
Ahhh, that's a bit of a new wonderful news~ ^^ I never think to question if some chracters have other hairstyle honestly, it's like asking what more outfits do they have, you know?

Nope! No peeking! It's for the best...One day your are drawing up ideas in your head, than the next..Your deep in with your countries secret sercive..It's a slippery slop. =_=


Not all but some, and I think she needs those days more than anyone considering things. ^^


Good! Keep up with that determination! >w<


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Shelter-Cat In reply to fiddee [2018-11-22 14:07:56 +0000 UTC]

I mean, I can understand why! For example, I really want to make a fancy outfit for Viviane... But when would I ever use it? She never goes to anything fancy enough! XD
True! But when you think about it, it's rare to keep the same hairstyle all your life. I use different hairstyles to symbolise, in a way, the different parts of their lives my OCs are going through! I'm sure you also noticed that both Morgan and Adamante also don't have the same hairstyle. XD

But it's about my own OCs! I wanna knooooooooooooooooow |>w>)

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fiddee In reply to Shelter-Cat [2018-11-25 22:41:20 +0000 UTC]

To a point I can understand it just as much as I CAN'T understand, if that makes sense.

Besides, now you have all the more reasons to send Viviane to some fancy parties and dinners than! XD *Suddenly imagiens Viviane and Noel dancing (AAAAAAHH! XD)*

Yeah I actually get your point (and it's a very good one), as they change over the years so might thier hairstyle and style in general too. But waht I'm saying is, when I see a character for the first time, that's the first impression I sort of get, just like you would with any other person.
And yes, I did notice Ada's and Morgan's changes to, no worries! XD


Sigh..Fine! What do you wish to know?..And don't say ''everything'', cuz it might take me weeks to set up all the red lines to make everything add up. =_= (XD)

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Shelter-Cat In reply to fiddee [2018-11-26 18:56:32 +0000 UTC]

Good point! No point sending her to parties in the first place without a fancy outfit ^^
True, it's rare that a character changes hairstyle, we're not used to it.Β 

Oo I didn't think this far!
How about I hear your version of why Viviane was banished from Bonta? ^^"

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fiddee In reply to Shelter-Cat [2018-12-01 19:54:56 +0000 UTC]

Her daily outfit is pretty fancy too though, sometimes it can be just as fancy to come dressed in something rare and unique too. ^^
Glad to hear you see my point when it comes to hairstyles, but I'm equally charmed to see a chracters hair change every now an then too. Like we'd see Ruel's be shaved at first and see how his beard grow slightly with each episode. XD

Hihi, okay than! XD
Right! My theory so far as why Viviane did get banished from Bonta is because she made something bad (obviously) on a major scale. A scale which couldn't be passed off as a mear simple crime like minor pickpocketing or stealing a stale loaf of bread. Seeing how she was brought before the highest justice instance of Bonta (If I remember your right?) and the punishment she recived ought to also match the crime she commited.


With the more recent facts regarding her powers and how she could implement them to ''effect'' people.
First idea being that I'd imagien she must have gotten ontop of someone she shouldn't have influenced?..Maybe someone in the royal court which she found out was doing funny business behind the scenes?..Or a possible political delegation

from Brakmar she didn't feel came with the best intentions, perhaps? (It would piss of Brakmar too if she did..Which she also did do infact. XD)
I can also picture ''young'' Viviane being very driven for change. For example, how to make things better for the poorest in the city when the high and migthy refused any such changes..Well, a little ''empath touch'' here and there amongst the richest and noblest families in Bonta and- Poof! Suddely she's made them give over large sums of thier savings to the poor...Not exactly looked kindly upon many Nobels I'd imagien, even more so when said Nobels goes to the King of Bonta and demands him to fix and handle this ''no good'' upstarter.


Second idea is that maybe she didn't do anything at all..But the royal court found out/knew of her powers and fear she might turn on them if she remaind with them. And so, in the fear of being turend in to mind droling zombies under her control, they made up some story that she commited terrible crimes, crimes she never commited in the first place, yet became sentanced either way for them?


Thirdly is simialre to the second, but I'd imagien people might see her as manipulative if she ever came to politics? Effecting peoples mind, feelings and opinions is rather wanted in such things as politics after all.



Fourthly there is of course a matter with Octavius, maybe he and Viviane had a run in were she helped him escape, rendering her acomplish to Octavius's action and possible murder?
(Though this part I think you already debunkt my therories on. )


These are my theories so far, though I honestly feel strongest about my first idea, the others...Not so much.

...You be like ''wrong, wrong, wrong, Good point...Still wrong.'' XD

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Shelter-Cat In reply to fiddee [2018-12-02 09:16:43 +0000 UTC]

You think so? I don't really see her outfit as fancy. A long time ago, when I first created Viviane and wasn't still sure about what she might do, it was supposed to be a travelling outfit. So even if the design is a bit original, it's mostly supposed to be warm and confortable. XD
Those kinds of details are always nice so see! ^^

All those theories are plausible, indeed. Though, for the fourth one, I guess you told yourself that with everything I said there is no way Viviane would help an assassin commit a crime, which is true. Unless what you meant is just that she helped him escape, which in this case depending on the situation might be completely possible! XD

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fiddee In reply to Shelter-Cat [2018-12-06 20:22:40 +0000 UTC]

I do, as said it makes her stand out but in a very huppermage-ish schooler sense of way. It's a little shame you can't see that fancy side of her outfit the way I seem to, maybe I jsut got bad taste in style and clothings, I am a iop after all.

Though I do agree with you, comfort, warmth and durability above fancy and good looking when it comes to cloths...But if they do look nice it's an equally nice bonus. xD

It would make them more alive, yeah. And not just Ruel's hair, but Amalia's turning from green to a bit of brown as it follows the change of season. ^^


'All those theories are plausible, indeed.'' I'm getting somewear than! i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/or…
I remember we talked about Viviane helping Octavius out, but what she did to help or if it was after or before the trails in Bonta was a bit more unclear.
Though I'd still put my money it's related to Viviane's power in the end...Be it because she influanced someone she should't have, or she becoming effected herself due to her powers still remains unclear. ^^

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Shelter-Cat In reply to fiddee [2018-12-07 19:55:52 +0000 UTC]

Or maybe I do because I don't know shit about fashion. XDDD
and well, that was the idea when I created her outfit... When I look closer at it, it doesn't really make any sense and I'm not really sure how she can put it on, so I hope to make something better one day. Maybe she'll lose that coat in the future, during an adventure, and replace it with something else? XD
...And then Amalia's hair woud fall in winter? XDDD

...Maybe. XDD
Guess we'll see in time! I'm not sure when because once I'm done with telling Ada and Morgan's story, I'm not sure what to tackle. I have time, though!

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fiddee In reply to Shelter-Cat [2018-12-08 22:59:15 +0000 UTC]

Nonsense! I bet you know a massive ammount of fashion and what you'd like to see Viviane ad your other OC's wear~ ^^ Besides...DO I LOOK LIKE A FREAKING FASHION EXPERT TO YOU!?!? *points at the obviously tastelessly fashuion iop that he is* >8D
Personally, I think Viviane's white dress looks both lovely as well as the whole ''getting on/off'' as well...Her jumpsuit makes it a bit more tricky though, you could just add sip on her back or use the straps going over her shoulders as wha'ts holding her suit up. ^^ But as said, I do think the latest outfit you did for Viviane is perfectly for the more adventorous side of Viviane~ ^^b
It would either fall off, or simply grow a bit more pale and white, yes. ^^


...''Maybe''...MAYBE! WE HAVE A BREAK THROUGH! >8D
It deppends in were your intrest lay, you can always write for Breyl, Sélène. OR write a little bit more for Alba and Tyto, it all deppends on what the master creator herself feel like she's up for doing~ ^^


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Shelter-Cat In reply to fiddee [2018-12-15 13:54:37 +0000 UTC]

You think? XDDD Man, the way I choose my clothing in the morning is just by grabbing the first things I can reach. And I can do that because my wardrobe only have the basic stuff. xD
well her jumpsuit is supposed to have buttons hiding underneath the fabric in the front to be able to put in on. XDΒ 

To be fair I said maybe because as I wrote the answer, I wondered if I could truly pin the fault on her powers or if it would have changed anything if she didn't have them. XDDD
Guess we'll see once I'm done with Morgan and Ada! XDDD

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fiddee In reply to Shelter-Cat [2018-12-20 23:21:35 +0000 UTC]

I do, it's just a matter of channaling it and putting it in to life~ ^^
So basiclly...You walk in to the wardrobe every morning and walk out with whatever clothes are stuck to you? ..I find that hard to believe. xD
Oh I see than, could you specify a little bit more exactly were they are. I'm looking at her jumpsuit update and it's a bit tricky to see for me.

So, what conclusion did you reach in that matter of thought? ^^
Right, Ada and Morgan first and formost. ^v^

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Shelter-Cat In reply to fiddee [2018-12-21 21:48:26 +0000 UTC]

AND YET HERE I AM DOING EXACTLY THAT. It's easier when all your clothes are basically the same. XD
If you look closer, on her stomach you should see a line and next to it the form of three buttons hiding under the fabric ^^ if she wants to take it off, she has to open the golden button above and then those three.

I concluded that nope, it wouldn't have changed anything to her being banished if she didn't have her powers. The story of another character would have ended DRASTICALLY different, though.

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fiddee In reply to Shelter-Cat [2018-12-29 23:29:45 +0000 UTC]

B-but diffrent colors, diffrent forms and styles? Q-Q
Yeah, I see it now! Again sorry my fault, I looked at Viviane's older jumpsuit version for some strange reason back than? (I think it was beacuse I looked in your gallary under ''Featured'' option, not ''All''. Oddely it dosen't appear in the first option. =/ *Shakes his head confused*) Still, I admit i'm the full embodiment of a iop-brain! XD


Hmmm, so that leave things open for things to be un-related to her powers than...Suddenly things became a bit more complicated again.

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Shelter-Cat In reply to fiddee [2019-01-03 13:30:35 +0000 UTC]

Whazzat? Don't know them.Β 

Oooooh right, because the jumpsuit is hidden in the reference sheet folder. I keep my refs here, so i cant find them easily and my gallery is full of pleasant drawings instead of boring refs ^^

I can't have her power be the cause of everything, now, that's cheating! XD

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fiddee In reply to Shelter-Cat [2019-01-05 21:42:47 +0000 UTC]

B-but it's impossible to buy 5 exact same shirt! It's heresy! T-T (XD)


Sounds logical, like you say it makes for easier accese than having to navigate through the whole gallary.
Oddly I keep all my works in a folder on my desktop, easier accese, you know. XD

POWEEEEER!!!

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Shelter-Cat In reply to fiddee [2019-01-06 18:18:04 +0000 UTC]

...does the same with different colors count? XDDD

Of course I have folders too! But I find it easier to find the URL to send refs to people. ^^

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fiddee In reply to Shelter-Cat [2019-01-12 16:50:01 +0000 UTC]

*Looks at his own shirts, diffrent color same shape*....Noooo, I wouldn't say that (XD)

Oh you meant like that! XD
Yes! Yes of course, that's a lot easier if you wish to just send a reference right quick and easy. ^^
I do so as well, but when I place bigger commission I often put all references in folders and send it along with the commission details.

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IceMintTea [2018-11-11 19:13:31 +0000 UTC]

They are all so cool with these designs...! çwç

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Shelter-Cat In reply to IceMintTea [2018-11-11 20:45:16 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! I'm glad you like them!

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IceMintTea In reply to Shelter-Cat [2018-11-13 20:12:37 +0000 UTC]

you're welcome shel

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Poohnie [2018-11-10 10:45:26 +0000 UTC]

Viviane is woderful I love her outfit <3

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Shelter-Cat In reply to Poohnie [2018-11-10 11:00:15 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! I'm glad you like it! :3

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Poohnie In reply to Shelter-Cat [2018-11-10 17:49:33 +0000 UTC]

I LAVA IT

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