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Description All alone on the death rail.



Where locomotives only roll across once in their lifetime. Two of the latest batch didn't fit into the heavily guarded inner compound, and were left outside. Needless to say, the doors have now been secured with chains and padlocks, to keep those pesky railfans out.

Pic from my latest tour.
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mikopol [2010-06-18 09:33:36 +0000 UTC]

I haven't seen many German railway areas, but in Poland railway stations' neighborhood is always wild, with some abandoned, rusted railroads, wild flora and sometimes with forgotten ruins...

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shenanigan87 In reply to mikopol [2010-06-22 12:50:11 +0000 UTC]

Around here, it usually applies to derelict railroad property, as infrastructure that's in use is usually cared for. In this case, it's just a siding for scrap engines, so no real maintenance is being carried out.

You're right about forgotten ruins, just to our left, one can find this [link] [link]

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mikopol In reply to shenanigan87 [2010-06-22 13:05:07 +0000 UTC]

Those two photos are very interesting.

It's quite interesting, contrast between creations of humans and wild nature...

I don't know, why I like abandoned places, why I'm fascinated by forgotten, rusted railroads (it's in some way a sad view for a railfan).

Maybe because I like post-apocalyptic s-f? Or maybe I like post-apocalyptic because I like abandoned places?

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shenanigan87 In reply to mikopol [2010-06-29 21:11:51 +0000 UTC]

I find abandoned places interesting too, but they always sadden me. I always imagine what it must have been like when everything was still busy and cared for, not smashed and defaced by vandals.

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mikopol In reply to shenanigan87 [2010-06-30 09:00:28 +0000 UTC]

Yes, same to me - when I see some old railway siding, I feel sad, because I won't see train here anymore...

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WolfishTendencys [2010-06-09 19:47:19 +0000 UTC]

What About The Loco That Pushes It There

Looks Very Sad And Lost

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shenanigan87 In reply to WolfishTendencys [2010-06-09 20:40:05 +0000 UTC]

If I'd be that picky, I'd have to consider that they sometimes get pushed out and against that buffer on the right to make way for a transformer [link] Not that it saves them or anything, but at least I can get nice and close and also get me some tax returns.

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WolfishTendencys In reply to shenanigan87 [2010-06-09 21:27:22 +0000 UTC]

Hehe, I'd Be Tempted To Ask U To Send Me A Bit For "Preservation" But Couldnt Afford The Postage

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HerrDrayer [2010-06-08 11:41:58 +0000 UTC]

In the states, we usually refer to the engines awaiting the torch as the deadline.

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shenanigan87 In reply to HerrDrayer [2010-06-08 20:54:24 +0000 UTC]

Is that a pun on deadline as in Fristablauf? Since I'd always associate it with that, rather than with engines waiting to be scrapped.

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HerrDrayer In reply to shenanigan87 [2010-06-09 06:34:52 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, deadline has two common meanings in English, a deadline is when a jounalist must have his article ready for copy, and it's also the line of dead engines awaiting the scrapper's torch. Deadlines don't get as much press today because they're not full of forlorn steamers or covered wagons anymore. They're mostly full of 2nd generation Diesels like Uboats and early model Geeps and SDs that nobody particularly misses.

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shenanigan87 In reply to HerrDrayer [2010-06-11 20:01:13 +0000 UTC]

Interestingly enough, the Bender (or rather the DB) made it to a news report once. They also interviewed owners of private rail companies, who would have loved to buy those locomotives, but DB scrapped them instead.

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HerrDrayer In reply to shenanigan87 [2010-06-12 08:03:22 +0000 UTC]

For all the bad things DB does, it still does a lot of things right. It might not be building high speed lines as quickly as Turkey or Spain, but they are getting built, which is more than one can say about the US at the present time. I know you seem to have delay problems quite frequently in your area, but for the most part, the trains in Baden-WΓΌrttemberg run on time. When an international service train gets handed off to the DB late, it often makes up time after crossing into Germany. Plus, lots of conductors have been kind enough to allow me to ride ICE trains with IC tickets without any proper excuse like a late arrival/missed connection.

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shenanigan87 In reply to HerrDrayer [2010-06-12 22:03:03 +0000 UTC]

That may be, but it's easy to win when compared to a nation where passenger travel is almost a niche market. Though I admit, I live in the most heavily urbanized area, in one of the smaller major cities that is right between two of the largest major cities, so mainlines are rather crowded. But that is still no excuse to force bad quality rolling stock upon the customer. Though most of those who use regional trains usually have no other option to get from A to B, so the DB milks them for what it's worth apparently. While some things may have gotten better, when one looks back at the Bundesbahn days, with services such as the Interregio or the Citybahn, it was just a completely different approach. While the current DB would either shut down a sparsely used mainline or hand it over to a private operator, the Bundesbahn has modernized some "Silberlinge", gave them a striking varnish, and introduced a more dense timetable. Before you knew it, passenger numbers shot up. The current DB is just about the money and nothing else, they have zero interest in getting people from A to B it seems. They discontinued the Interregio, converted profitable lines to expensive IC ones, and handed over unprofitable ones to the local communities, who were forced to pay or face not having a connection to the rail network. Add to that all those times they saved money on the customer, or disregarded safety problems, be it Eschede, the derailment in Cologne or the subsequent derailment and fiasco at the Berlin S-Bahn (which in itself is a prime example of DB's controversial business tactics). It's no wonder Germans just hate them.

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HerrDrayer In reply to shenanigan87 [2010-06-12 22:13:08 +0000 UTC]

I can see that when one experienced the best of the Bundesbahn, it's easy to be very negative towards the DB's current status. Coming from America though, the DB is still one of the best despite its less-than-ethical business practices.

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shenanigan87 In reply to HerrDrayer [2010-06-13 16:30:49 +0000 UTC]

Naturally, but I can only speak from the perspective of a German, since I never used trains in the US of A (or Hungary for that matter).

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HerrDrayer In reply to shenanigan87 [2010-06-13 17:49:04 +0000 UTC]

Heidelberg gets some EuroCity trains that are run by Austrian rail, and I can't deny that their cars are maintained better. Furthermore, DB's dining cars don't hold a candle to Austria's, in terms of interior decoration and also in terms of food.

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shenanigan87 In reply to HerrDrayer [2010-06-13 17:53:51 +0000 UTC]

Looking at current trends, DB wants to phase out dining cars anyways. They say that replacing the BordRestaurant with the BordBistro will allow more customers to be served at once, while the customers only notice a drop in quality, in service, food and seating.

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HerrDrayer In reply to shenanigan87 [2010-06-13 18:35:43 +0000 UTC]

Indeed. I can't deny that the Bistrowagens on the IC trains are a fun place to hang out after a long day at work. I used to celebrate the conclusion of every week at Berlitz with dinner and a beer in the Bistrowagen, and the whole car would be filled with passengers sitting, standing, and leaning against everything that could support their weight whilst enjoying a beer or some wine. The same bar-like, festive atmosphere of the Bistrowagen cannot be replicated in a sit-down dining car, but at dinner time, I'd much rather be in a dining car.

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shenanigan87 In reply to HerrDrayer [2010-06-13 23:08:32 +0000 UTC]

Heh, can't really say much about that, since I rarely ever travel long distances by train.

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HerrDrayer In reply to shenanigan87 [2010-06-14 08:48:32 +0000 UTC]

That'll be the day when commuter trains get dining cars...(^_^) I'd like to see a DoSto with a dining room on the upper level, then a kitchen and bar on the lower. That would be totally awesome!

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shenanigan87 In reply to HerrDrayer [2010-06-14 13:40:05 +0000 UTC]

You'd be surprised: One line here, the RE2 (Rhein-Haard-Express), does have a ZugCafΓ© in the lower part of one Dosto: [link] Though the best place to dine would of course be the Aussichtswagen of the TEE Rheingold, which does have a kitchen below and tables above [link] One of these days, I'll be riding that one for sure.

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HerrDrayer In reply to shenanigan87 [2010-06-15 07:07:20 +0000 UTC]

Aussichtswagen? I think "Dome Car" sounds a lot better... A DoSto with a cafe' is definitely cool. Amtrak's superliner observation cars are arranged with lounge seating upstairs and a cafe' downstairs, then the dining car is usually coupled to one end, with tables up and kitchen down.

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shenanigan87 In reply to HerrDrayer [2010-06-15 21:19:16 +0000 UTC]

Just found some very interesting stuff on DSO about this topic, including a buffet car: [link] Or how about the rolling wine cellar? [link]

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HerrDrayer In reply to shenanigan87 [2010-06-16 07:32:58 +0000 UTC]

That's pretty cool.

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irwingcommand [2010-06-08 10:59:45 +0000 UTC]

this really captures the moment well

87 on the right

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shenanigan87 In reply to irwingcommand [2010-06-08 20:54:46 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

As for 87, kinda shows how many rails there once were: [link]

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