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Shiore-Hikaru — Batjokes Week - Day 6: King and Jester

Published: 2014-07-15 23:54:40 +0000 UTC; Views: 1530; Favourites: 18; Downloads: 0
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Description "I shall accompany you until the very end. Even if the throne crumbles… And the shining crown rots away. Even if countless bodies pile up… there I will remain. Upon the heap of carcasses." 

I actually drew for this prompt and though I'm not so into New 52, the prompt screamed it so this is what I made. The quote above is from one of my Black Butler mangas I though it suit the prompt well. Around the Joker lies items from the Bat-family/friends. From left to right is Nightwing’s escrima sticks (got reference from Injustice game), Alfred’s serving tray, the crowbar used to beat Jason, Batgirl’s boots, Gordon’s glasses, Red Robin’s symbol and part of Damian’s Robin costume. And of course Joker is holding onto a batarang from his dearest Batsy
Again splattered and smeared fake blood after finishing the drawing.
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Comments: 28

Yaoiste4ever [2014-07-16 17:37:42 +0000 UTC]

Wow your fanart is really beautiful ! The quote fits perfectly with the spirit of the Joker and the addition of fake blood was a great idea.

Continue your great work !

PS : the Joker is sexy dressed in mechanic, right ? XD

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Shiore-Hikaru In reply to Yaoiste4ever [2014-07-16 17:48:22 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for your kind words. I just love this quote from the Black Butler manga and it so fit the prompt and the Joker especially how he thinks in the New 52. And the blood well it was a last minute addition because I thought it looked too plain. Plus drawing blood splatters and drips is so hard to make it seem authentic so fake blood was the next best choice since I have a lot of it around from Halloween. Again thanks for the comment and yes the Joker is dressed as a mechanic he adopted this look in the New 52 "Death of the Family" arc. Not my fave interpretation of him but whatever it fit the prompt too well to let it pass by because of my personal views

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Yaoiste4ever In reply to Shiore-Hikaru [2014-07-16 18:29:03 +0000 UTC]

I see. Like you, the New 52 arc isn't my favorite interpretation of him (I prefer "The Killing Joke"), largely because of what happened to his face. But I admit that I liked his outfit of mechanic, it changed his usual costume.

In any case thank you for the explanation and good luck for the sequel.

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Shiore-Hikaru In reply to Yaoiste4ever [2014-07-16 20:06:11 +0000 UTC]

Yes! The Killing Joke is my favorite too
Yeah that's one of my biggest pet peves about the New 52 especially for Batman comics his face. Plus a whole list of things I can rant about but I won't because I don't want to write a whole essay here  
I miss the purple suit honestly New 52 look makes him look and seem like horror movie monster rather criminal psychopathic genius.
Did I say I was doing a sequel I don't recall? Anyway thanks for the comment made my day

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Yaoiste4ever In reply to Shiore-Hikaru [2014-07-16 21:32:24 +0000 UTC]

I wanted to say "good luck for your other work".

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Shiore-Hikaru In reply to Yaoiste4ever [2014-07-16 22:40:01 +0000 UTC]

Oh okay thanks

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KurvosVicky [2014-07-16 04:35:12 +0000 UTC]

Holy shit. o.o; Really well done drawing - even though I'm not a fan of the New 52 Joker, I like this one a lot.
Though, with the crowbar - did Joker kill Jason in N52 too then? o3o

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Shiore-Hikaru In reply to KurvosVicky [2014-07-16 07:11:45 +0000 UTC]

Well I'm not a big fan either, new 52 some of the stuff that happens makes my head hurt (seriously don't get me started)
But anyway for my birthday my brother got me Death of the Family comic and I read it art was great, some dialogue engaging and well when prompts for this Batjokes week came out and I wanted to give it a shot. The prompt and some ideas from some Black Butler manga I have gave me the idea and pose reference. No as far as I know Jason is alive in New 52. I used the crowbar as reference to "Death in the Family" when Joker beat him with a crowbar in that arc. There are some old and new references like I added Batgirl's boots because it was the Joker who crippled her in "The Killing Joke." And newer ones because in the whole Death of the Family arc he's messed with the whole batfamily so I used items and stuff to identify the individual.
I'm glad you liked it and thanks for the comment

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KurvosVicky In reply to Shiore-Hikaru [2014-07-16 07:45:01 +0000 UTC]

Oh, okie dokie. Then I know better and understand the intentions. Looks really nice either way.

You're most welcome!

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Shiore-Hikaru In reply to KurvosVicky [2014-07-16 07:50:03 +0000 UTC]

Yeah worked like 3 days on it. One night to sketch, a day for touch ups before I did line art, a day to color and a final night when on a whim I wanted to splatter blood on my work. It was hard I wanted to keep Joker relatively clean but especially the batarang had to be clean for the sake of symbolism. Again thanks for the compliment really makes me happy

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KurvosVicky In reply to Shiore-Hikaru [2014-07-16 08:03:46 +0000 UTC]

Awww. X3 Well, of course. This is something you should be proud of - you really did well.

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Shiore-Hikaru In reply to KurvosVicky [2014-07-16 09:13:26 +0000 UTC]

I am proud, it was really hard to do since I avoid full body poses like the plague. Plus it took forever to do the items scattered about I kept drawing them too small relative to the Joker. Plus I had to look up multiple references for said items plus at the time my laptop was slow as hell and kept crashing, it was just a nightmare but worth it

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KurvosVicky In reply to Shiore-Hikaru [2014-07-16 10:00:55 +0000 UTC]

Ah, I see. It's funny, I've been struggling with the same problems myself a lot of times. I've tended to avoid doing full body poses, and the scaling of everything has been occassionally a mess. XP
But yeah, I think you did great.

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Shiore-Hikaru In reply to KurvosVicky [2014-07-16 17:24:40 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a lot really appreciate it

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KurvosVicky In reply to Shiore-Hikaru [2014-07-16 17:26:17 +0000 UTC]

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GreippiKreivi [2014-07-16 04:19:07 +0000 UTC]

NO I hope that this is only The Joker's collection of things he has picked during the years... And that this isn't only symbolizing that everyone is dead D: but anyway, you'ven done really good work and I can see why you said you were proud of this

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Shiore-Hikaru In reply to GreippiKreivi [2014-07-16 07:23:12 +0000 UTC]

Well the items scattered around him some are old references like the crowbar since he beat Jason with it in "Death in the Family" and Batgirl's boots to symbolize that he crippled her originally in "The Killing Joke." Gordon I used him because if there's one character he's really messed with is Gordon, like crippling his daughter and killing his (I think second) wife by shooting her in the face. The other characters as you probably know he messes with throughout the whole Death of the Family arc. This picture is supposed to symbolize how he sees things ending between Batman and himself. Among the carcasses of those Batman hold near to him. There's more to the quote it talks about chess pieces and the art in the Black Butler manga is really cool for it how the people or pieces around the King are dead because if the King falls then it's checkmate and I kinda wanted to something along those lines except too much chess reference so yeah for the sake of symbolism everyone is dead the only piece or item not from a dead character is Batman symbolized with the batarang which is also the only item not bloody. Which was hard to do since I had to splatter fake blood on the picture. But anyway I'm glad you liked and yeah I am proud  

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GreippiKreivi In reply to Shiore-Hikaru [2014-07-17 10:35:28 +0000 UTC]

Well, this is a nice mix of new 52, games and the old comics then And, Black Butler too! The quote fits almost even too well in this... Thanks for explaining the background of it! Must say that I'd go all bananas if they officially pulled a stunt like that, though :'D Killing Sarah Essen made me fidget already, for example. So you can only imagine what would happen if they went and wiped the whole Batfamily + Jimbo out ( no-one touches Alfred and Jim, dammit >:C ) It would be interesting to see Bruce's reaction, by the way!

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Shiore-Hikaru In reply to GreippiKreivi [2014-07-17 18:23:22 +0000 UTC]

Weren't people disappointed that nobody died in "Death of the Family" and basically nothing happened? But anyway yeah wiping out the whole Batclan and friends would be devastating and a bit redundant since Jason was already killed off and then that lame death for Dick in the Injustice comics. And then also Damian being dead in Batman Inc. but he's so coming back no doubt about it. I mean in a world where the Lazarus Pit exists that is such a big hole to any death in the Batfam rendering it useless in my opinion. But anyway yeah that quote fit perfectly, that's why I spent a while reading through my mangas to get the exact quote. But anyway it would be interesting to see Bruce's reaction, there is a fancomic that kinda did the same thing Joker kills and mutilates Alfred, Robin and Gordon and Batman goes ballistic it's called "The Deal." It's really great I love the end to it very haunting.   

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GreippiKreivi In reply to Shiore-Hikaru [2014-07-17 19:33:34 +0000 UTC]

Some were, true. TBH, I was also waiting for something more shocking since Snyder promised such. However, by "shocking", I didn't necessarily want anybody dead. IMO, official writers should be careful of using character deaths as a plot twist. It lowers the shock value in the long run. It can also be frustrating for the fans. As you said, Dick's death was "lame", f. ex. and yeah, it may be that Damian comes back. As much as I'd like for him to be alive, rising him from the dead would be perhaps a bit too predictable? Dunno. Anyway, I read that fan comic and it does have an interesting feeling to it. Man, I'm going to have nightmares though D:

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Shiore-Hikaru In reply to GreippiKreivi [2014-07-18 03:00:51 +0000 UTC]

So true, it seemed the whole thing was overhyped and too much buildup for not enough pay off. Yeah if writers kill willy nilly without thought it's kinda pointless (turns away at blame for Moon's Curse 1 )

And yeah people coming back from the dead in Batman gets so redundant I mean Jason was revived in the Lazerus pit, Joker too at one point, Ra's al Ghul too every Friday like it's the next night club lol. So predictable, I really think that's how Damian's coming back, they hardly let people stay dead only minor characters. 

I love that comic, it just has so much ideology and thought into it plus the end gives me chills. It's so great for a fancomic gotta give them props

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GreippiKreivi In reply to Shiore-Hikaru [2014-07-18 06:44:45 +0000 UTC]

Well, it will be interesting what Snyder will do when they return to the current time. He has once again promised quite a lot to expect, I've heard. ( Don't worry about Moon's Curse 1 -- I wouldn't compare Batman and your work since unlike Batman, Moon's Curse has only one writer and it's you Quite a lot of problems with Batman comes when someone decides to kill off a character [say, Damian] and it comes as a complete surprise for the other writers. Grant basically destroyed one of the two staring characters of the series Batman & Robin, for instance. Moreover, one of the main issues with Batman is that the writers are constantly competing who makes "teh most epic-est story of them all" [quite often they try to beat The Killing Joke, it seems?]. And unfortunately, for far too many writers 'epic' is the same as, "which story has most tragic deaths?" You aren't trying to win against an another writer's story. So, all in all, I think that you can relax )

Haha, you are right Lazarus pit is used way too much, too. Uhm, wasn't it that The Joker regained his sanity for a short while after he was dipped into one? ( instead of just going even crazier )

Yep, especially considering that The Deal is "just" a fancomic, it's quite well done! Agh, but it still hurts my feels. Seeing Alfred chopped into a box + dead commissioner in one. Single. Page is too much for my little heart. And it certainly doesn't help that a bit later, Joker dances with Robin's separated arm. And it most likely won't help either that Batman and The Joker fall to their death. But anyway, the creators seemed to aim for a depressing / nauseating / odd / dark atmosphere, and they clearly succeeded. So, kudos for that

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Shiore-Hikaru In reply to GreippiKreivi [2014-07-18 19:45:33 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, forget that comics series have multiple writers so I guess I'm good. But yeah it does seem a lot of comics try to outdo Moore's or reference it a lot. But still Snyder shouldn't hype it up so much again, the way he describes it it sounds like some drama with all the Batman and Joker love implications, I swear it starts to sound like some horror spin to my moms Spanish soaps. 

Yes that was the comic, Joker works with Ra's then gets shot up and dying so Batsy saves him with the Lazerus pit because Joker is the only one who knows where a bunch of bombs are located and for a short time regains sanity. Not the first time they do a thing where Joker has his sane moments.

Well the gore and junk doesn't bother me much. (I feel if I wanted to write them down, the things I think up are way more gruesome. I had a short story in my head that gets very bloody and junk it's supposed to be like a slasher, mystery horror but never really had the courage to write it out) But the end and their death and words is what wins it over for me I'm a sucker for great imagery and dialogue.

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GreippiKreivi In reply to Shiore-Hikaru [2014-07-19 11:16:13 +0000 UTC]

" I swear it starts to sound like some horror spin to my moms Spanish soaps" --> OK I can't. That's a humorous way to put it *laughs*

Hm, must say that it would be a nice change to see a sane!Joker that doesn't go on crying and apologizing :I Oh well, we do have that one story "Going Sane" at least, but I have to admit that I'm not really a fan of it :'D

Oh, gore wouldn't bother me otherwise, but those are my favs being butchered into bloody parts D: But man, it's a pity if you didn't have the guts to do that. Knowing how dark stuff your mind can pop out, it would be interesting to see the things which even you didn't have the guts to write! :'D

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Shiore-Hikaru In reply to GreippiKreivi [2014-07-19 18:28:15 +0000 UTC]

Yeah humorous, and those soaps get cheesy and predictable.

Is that the one when he finds a photo album and sees Jeanie and actually cries and remembers? Yeah it seems that whenever he has a sane period he's always remorseful and crying. And a lot of comics like using Killing Joke background story. The point of that story is you can't trust it as his actual background since the Joker is such an unreliable narrator. The Joker is anything you can form him into.

As I always say you can't be afraid to step on people's toes. If you're afraid of offending or scaring or disturbing people and you always stay inside the box you don't give yourself room to improve and reach your potential. Oh I have the guts to do it. I'm just nervous that it isn't good or might be boring.

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GreippiKreivi In reply to Shiore-Hikaru [2014-07-21 09:46:51 +0000 UTC]

Well, Going Sane was a short story in which The Joker thinks he killed Batman. After that, he realized that he didn't have an audience to entertain anymore with Batman gone. Sooo, he just magically goes "sane" and forgets he ever was The Joker ( his new alias being Joseph Kerr ). He falls in love with a woman who is unaware that she's actually dating The Joker. Until well, Batman shows up and "Joseph" goes completely nuts again. Back to the starting point. Didn't like the story that much, yeah. But, in which comic did The Joker see a photo of Jeannie? Ehm, yeah, you are right that The Killing Joke is quite unreliable source to use ( ooooh, I seriously cringed when they made "The Riddler tell The Joker Jeannie's murderer's name" in one story line... ).

Ha, didn't say that I disliked The Deal for killing characters off It certainly had shock-value and wasn't boring. Ho, well, I can't say anything about your story since I don't know pretty much anything about it, but you did tickle my curiosity!

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Shiore-Hikaru In reply to GreippiKreivi [2014-07-21 18:41:32 +0000 UTC]

Oh I remember that story line. He disfigures himself again and goes back to being the Joker. But anyway the one I referred to is from Gotham Knights. Yeah I remember that too about Riddler telling him that he knew his wife's killer. I don't really like it because it gives him a definite past, it's kinda like the Batman 1989 movie or the animated series giving him a set past of Jack Napier the gangster. 

Well hopefully I get something set so I can tell you sometime

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GreippiKreivi In reply to Shiore-Hikaru [2014-07-24 07:09:55 +0000 UTC]

Oh dangit, that photo album was in the same story line as that Riddler thing? How am I not surprised over here *laughs*

( uhm, I'd be otherwise saying that "I'm looking forward to it", but that knife behind your back scares me right now )

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