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SilentSamurai96 [2013-02-28 03:32:05 +0000 UTC]
to think that someone as sweet as her could turn out to be so evil in the end
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EllieMariana [2011-07-15 17:27:40 +0000 UTC]
She did turn her back on her mother - when Jane Seymour was Queen. She signed a document claiming Jane to be the rightful Queen, Edward the heir and herself a bastard. She also agreed that Henry was head of the church. So she turned her back on both eventually.
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Balrog1262 In reply to EllieMariana [2012-07-08 17:41:37 +0000 UTC]
That's because he bullied and coerced into saying that by her fat fuck of a father, dumbass.
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Alexia19 In reply to EllieMariana [2011-12-28 03:33:36 +0000 UTC]
Let's say a child's father did not want to pay child support. Being a powerful member of politics he "arranges" for a a claim of abuse or immoral conduct to be made against the mother. Police comes in and does a investigation. Meanwhile the father offers to take care of the child. While their mother is sent to a insane asylum. While daddy's new girlfriend gets preggers. Daddy's new girlfriend don't share. So then mommy dies under really f%^$king suspicious circumstances. None of which include the fact that when the father and his brand new wife(which he married while still legally married to the old one before the courts made a judgement." Learn of her death. Throw a huge party, and are happy, and laughing. This child sees all of this. And then one of "daddy's special friends." Comes to her and tells her to sign the damn paperwork or she might see her mother really soon.
Are you that cold? He basically held a knife to her throat!!!!She saw what happened to her mother! And what? What was a 15 year scared girl suppose to do? Die? Tortured until she signed? This was a man who killed 2 wives publicly and the 1 (the great love of his life!)Most likely or Anne did it. So yes she choose life.
LIFE! Do you not understand that? She endured shame, humiliation, and rejection, by everyone for years. And never gave up.
Is that a coward to you?
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diddles25 [2010-11-12 19:58:29 +0000 UTC]
Yep, Katherine must have been relieved that her little daughter didn't turn her back on her mama!
Mary does not deserve the moniker of "Bloody Mary"; Elizabeth had her moments, such as the persecution of the Irish and her stance on torture; and their papa has the worst track record in my opinion. Daddie Dearest had her declared a bastard and married five more times to women who could have been her sisters and fretted more about a male heir than about her well-being.
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Rocksy-Roxx [2010-10-17 14:14:10 +0000 UTC]
Mary did not deserve the title of 'Bloody Mary'. I am also into history and I must say that Elizabeth was no saint either, yet she is positively remembered by history.
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ShirleyWoodruff In reply to Rocksy-Roxx [2010-10-17 16:46:25 +0000 UTC]
Thx for supporting! Elizabeth studied from her sister's mistakes, that's why she maybe was a better queen, but not a better person. But, I must agree with Lucrecia-89, that "Kill people because of faith was one of the biggest atrocities of world history, but she wasn't the only one for doing that, all tudor monarchs excetp Henry VII did the same". That time wasn't the best time to live in, anyway.
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Rocksy-Roxx In reply to ShirleyWoodruff [2010-10-18 16:48:33 +0000 UTC]
There should also be noted that Elizabeth has plotted against Mary with a couple of other protestants.
Well, where's the 'Bloody Henry VIII'? He has killed way more people and ruined quite a lot of lives.
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ShirleyWoodruff In reply to Rocksy-Roxx [2010-10-20 07:01:57 +0000 UTC]
To sum up - there're no saints amongst those, who have power at all.
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Lucrecia-89 [2010-10-16 02:29:01 +0000 UTC]
Lovely work!!
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missmaryXD [2010-10-10 12:00:48 +0000 UTC]
I love it, it's amazing!
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Gamer-Grl [2010-09-24 21:50:22 +0000 UTC]
I love this, and Mary is epic, but I would say killing hundreds of Protestants would be against her faith...
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Lucrecia-89 In reply to Gamer-Grl [2010-10-16 02:28:10 +0000 UTC]
Kill catholics or protestants, it doesn't matter what group was a christian thing. Kill people because of faith was one of the biggest atrocities of world history, but she wasn't the only one for doing that, all tudor monarchs excetp Henry VII did the same, but just Mary receives the nickname...
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Gamer-Grl In reply to Lucrecia-89 [2010-10-17 22:19:49 +0000 UTC]
Elizabeth didn't behead people because of their religion, and she was a tutor. And yes, Henry the VII did kill people due to religion.
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Lucrecia-89 In reply to Gamer-Grl [2010-10-18 23:23:14 +0000 UTC]
you meant a tuDor?
i agree, but Elizabeth was ahead of her time, while Mary and Edward were products of their system.
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Gamer-Grl In reply to Lucrecia-89 [2010-10-18 23:33:10 +0000 UTC]
Agreed. Elizabeth i believe is the most epic monarch in history.
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Lucrecia-89 In reply to Gamer-Grl [2010-10-19 15:02:00 +0000 UTC]
i could list several people who like her, made different choices, Catherine of Aragon for example, she could choose to her nephew, the most powerful man of the time Charles V to help her brigin' war to England, instead of she chose her own sorrow and even prayed for her enemies, in times of blood, she was very kind.
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Gamer-Grl In reply to Lucrecia-89 [2010-10-19 20:02:57 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, Catherine was awesome too! She was such a tragic figure though.
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Lucrecia-89 In reply to Gamer-Grl [2010-10-21 23:58:38 +0000 UTC]
True, she was a true queen, i love anne boleyn for the woman ahead of her time that she was, but catherine was the true queen of tudor house to me.
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Lucrecia-89 In reply to Lucrecia-89 [2010-10-16 02:28:45 +0000 UTC]
i meant "Wasn't a christian thing"
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ShirleyWoodruff In reply to Gamer-Grl [2010-09-25 14:55:59 +0000 UTC]
Thx for the comment!
Well, I'm now really into all this history, I read a lot about Mary and I must say that it was very in catholic style to kill so many people, because she really believed in the cleanup through the fire. Yes, it doesn't sound very christianic, but Catholicism and Christianity... well, there're some differences! Anyway, this manip is about Mary from "The Tudors" and there she's very mild personage_)
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NelsonHojax In reply to ShirleyWoodruff [2010-12-09 00:01:46 +0000 UTC]
So what I you trying to say? That Catholicism, from which all other Christian religions descend from isn't Christian? If you dislike Mary because of her violence against Protestants, I understand, but I would appreciate it if you left your anti-Catholic at home.
Great picture, I have a lot of sympathy for Mary and I feel much of her actions were due to her traumatic experiences as a young woman. Not to mention that she never found love or had children, and that must of been very sad. But well done all the same.
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ShirleyWoodruff In reply to NelsonHojax [2010-12-10 10:56:04 +0000 UTC]
It's not anti-Catholic position but anti-clerical. I fully agree that Catholic church is a great institution and it was very important to preserve faith in people, but I can't understand Holy Wars, witch-hunting, indifference to genocide, attitude towards other religion representatives etc. It somehow differs from what is written in the Bible.
But - I insist, I do not want to tell that Catholic church is worse or better than any other. The same thing can be told about every other religion, except, maybe confucionism.
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