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afjsdlkjasljdflkasdfjaksdfIDK WHAT SHE IS BUT ILHER
i hope you love her too <3
might finish the second doodle thing thar and post it idk
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It's okay man, we'll make it through this together. [link]
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ohey just thought I'd say your art makes me happyyyyyyyyyy, don't know why I haven't watched you yet.
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aw shit son, thanks so much <3 your people blow my MIND ;_;
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Oh forgot to say, When I had dogs and I was away from them, even my snake and cat...I miss them alot and sometimes I do get depressed, upset and cry when I miss them. Its normal, if you look at your pet as Family then its normal too miss them alot.
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I don't think you've commented the right person.
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Oh crap my bad, still tryin to get the hang of DA XD Sorry.
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Okay I agree with Ichi, Yours looks like crap and the other one looks AMAZING! Plus I <3 Ichi art. AND If you dont got it (c) Dont bitch!
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I've seen alot of people's characters who have weird but unique abilities, i dont see many "hand manipulations" with hair but its unique. its been used many times obviously, so you using the hair hands thing is okay in my book. besides, wouldn't it be stupid if everyone was fighting about someone having green or red in the hair or black and gray paws? i mean its rediculous many people have unique ideas that are also ideas that others come up with aswell. dA is not for arguing, its for sharing idea's through art, photography, and liturature.
btw this is a really cute picture :'D
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I don't really give a shit about all of this anymore, but thank you <3
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i would feel the same. i mean who cares let her bitch at you, typing something like fuck you isn't gonna hurt ur feelings :b
yws ^w^ good choice of colors
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I really don't see what the big deal is :/ I have seen hand hair on dogs various times WAY before you or that other girl. But hey, just ignore them and don't listen to them. You are in no way stealing an "idea" or anything else. Its just a coincidence that you have the same idea, so she can't do much but sit there and watch. Anyways I think the design is very cool and I like the colours myself
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I'm not angry or anything at her (she did overreact a tad too much)
but you know, shit happens eh?
thank you <3
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Pssh don't listen to them
You have a very interesting style, I love how you drew the face~ I like your take on hair-hands because they're not... blatantly hands, they're vaguely a similar shape but can easily pass off for a hairstyle at the same time.
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Ahh thank you <3
that's actually what I was going for, just hair that can, idk harden?
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Umm. Yeah. The hair-hand thing's a little too close to Chelsea's character. I had never seen that before she did it, so I'm having a hard time believing it's total coincidence.
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That's really rude. You shouldn't come to someone and claim that they stole a part of their character design, especially when evidence points otherwise.
It's very hurtful and immature.
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Wow late to the party. Read the rest of my comments and brush up on what my actual stance is here. thnx.
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I did.
It's still rude and you should apologise to the artist.
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Then I suppose you read the comment that says "I commended her for her maturity and humanity in responding to the situation, and haven't responded to any comment of hers since, nor posted to anything on her page or gallery. I have nothing against her at all."
But I disagree with you so I'm rude. Right.
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You should still apologise for the original comment, which was rude.
Coming to another person's page and calling them a thief for no good reason is rude.
Period.
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unless chelsea owns hair hands, i see little to no reason to complain. sure, i might see a problem if they had the same color scheme and if the hair was like Chelsea's, but since it's not, how is this a problem?
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Hands made of hair in that specific area of the head isn't "like"?
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as in the 'scene-hair' stlye.
the hands that are actually made of hair are the only thing that are similar to your friend's spaggle. that, and they're dogs. well, chelsea's looks more like miniature, anorexic giraffe, but that's her 'style', right?
i find it funny how it's okay for chelsea to have the concept when a shitton of anime and video games have done it before, but it's not okay for *shtiglitz to have the same concept.
honestly, quit riding her. she's done nothing wrong.
she's even apologized for something she didn't do in your friend's journal. she deserves a hell of a lot more respect.
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Nobody said anything about "style." It's a theme with you guys, to bring up stereotypes unrelated to the argument at hand, to prove sparkles are WRONG WRONG WRONG. Mmm, how about arguing with what's actually presented?
I'm not arguing against her. I really respect her attitude in this and I'm not pursuing her. She responded to my comment and I left it at that. It's this self-entitled group I'm responding to.
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i explained the scene hair style because you didn't get it in my first comment. that's how the style came up. chelsea's style on the other hand was just a blow that was optional and i decided to put it in. the question was rhetorical and now you're making a big deal about it. it's not the main part of the argument, and i never intended it to be so.
then you could just ignore everything? or better yet, you could actually admit that since there's no proof of inspiration, your friend has nothing to whine/worry about. with every comment, you're just feeding me and the other people here. to be honest, once you stop commenting, they will too. though, if you're as bored and stubborn as we are, it'll never end until one side wins.
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A blow that was optional and completely unrelated to the topic at hand. If you're going to include something with no clout because it has no relation to anything previously discussed, why bother?
Nobody ever wins in these situations. Last comment =/= instant e-argument win, as so many people believe. I was defending my point. Shtiglitz showed more maturity and humanity than anyone here, so my point is moot and I'm backing down out of respect for her wish to end this.
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it fit into the topic quite nicely, actually. or at least, in my opinion it did.
i never said it was an 'instant' e-argument win. it continues with chelsea and her journal as well. once chelsea gets over the fact that none of her art contains one speck or originality and people defending chelsea's weak argument stop commenting/replying here and in her jounral... things will die down and get better and everything will be fine 'n dandy.
mmk, nice talkin' with ya'.
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I'm referring to a trend of people who believe the last word is an instant win, not you in particular.
And yyyyep, it's all us. None of it is your side, constantly replying to our comments. Because you're right, that exempts you.
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then state it.
lmao, when did i ever say it exempts me? xD
and what happened to the respecting *shtiglitz and not commenting anymore? you're doing a hell of a job on that.
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Not commenting to her. The fact that you're dragging this on is another story.
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and yet you're bringing in another topic to this lovely debate.
the fact that you keep replying just adds onto the matter.
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And yet you reply as well. Doesn't that make you as bad as me?
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lol, do you forget you accused her of theft?
or at least backed up your friend in saying that she obviously was inspired by Chels?
so no, it doesn't make me as bad as you.
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Again with the Zelda character. And the copyright claim.
Look. This is a dog with two hair-hands placed in the precise area of coontails, common on scene-related dogs. A very specific spot. Not a humanoid. Not a Zelda-inspired character. Not one large hand made of all the hair.
And nobody claimed it was copyrighted to Chelsea. She even says in her journal that she would have been fine with people using her idea if they approached her. She never mentioned copyright and never brought up copyright in any of her arguments. So you have no grounds to use that as an argument yourself, when you are the one bringing it in.
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I know all of this shit is useless drama, but I'd just like to say I didn't place the 'hair-hands' wherever coontails are usually, i placed them where the fur would be on her cheeks. Not above.
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XD I love the fact that you're the only one NOT making a big deal over this, even though you're the one under accusation.
I wish there were more people who were as mature as you XD
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I'm pretty pissed, but I know that if I overreact like she 'did' then I'd be just as bad as her.
I'd LOVE to freak out on her but ya know C:
thanks for the watch <3
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XD Yeah; just sucks all this drama happened over hair xD;
Freaking out is always fun XD
And no problem <3
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So just because it's a dog and not a human or Zelda character it means "OMG SHE'S COPYING MY (c)IDEA, QUICK SOMEBODY CALL THE WAAAAAMBULANCE!!!" Oh please, she doesn't even mention the fact that it's a dog with "two hair-hands placed in the precise area of coontails" she cries about mean old stealing her 'precious hair hands idea'. And how nice of her to say she'd be fine with other people asking her to use her 'original' concept...she needs to get over herself and stop being such a stuck up little dolt about shit that don't amount to a hill of beans
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And again, nobody said copyright. Nobody. Except you and your side, so your overdramatic parody doesn't exactly work, or shame us in any way.
You're sure paying a lot of attention to dogart and teen drama if it "doesn't amount to a hill of beans", I must say.
I'm just pointing out what I see as similarities, obviously I can't speak for Chelsea. And I'm not trying to. Maybe she doesn't say that but I did, I'd appreciate if you'd actually respond to the points I make and not try to lump all the arguments together to prove you're right.
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And again, nobody said copyright. Nobody. Except you and your side, so your overdramatic parody doesn't exactly work, or shame us in any way.
We never said she copyrighted it,we're stating that had she spent the time and money to file an actual copyright claim with the government for her 'original' concept(which she couldn't because Nintendo and the various anima and manga publishers have been using it for years)then she might have a leg to stand on.But since she apparently hasn't....no
You're sure paying a lot of attention to dogart and teen drama if it "doesn't amount to a hill of beans", I must say.
The same could be said of you,as has been said repeatedly likely never heard of Chelsea before all this so this is ll just a hill of beans.
I'm just pointing out what I see as similarities, obviously I can't speak for Chelsea. And I'm not trying to. Maybe she doesn't say that but I did, I'd appreciate if you'd actually respond to the points I make and not try to lump all the arguments together to prove you're right.
Let's see...Lyra has three legs,no tail,has a green nose, green tongue and green markings around the inside of her ears...and her hair hands are black with light gray tips.
Meanwhile Chelsea is lavender/light shade of black with bands of light orange, yellow and grey on her hind legs;has fox like ears, piercing pink eyes, big fuzzy mutli-colored tail, and most importantly her hair hands are light green with bluish green bands and also twice as long as Lyra's.
In other words other than the hair hands and maybe green noses(Lyra=lime green, Chelsea=blue green)they look absolutely NOTHING ALIKE!!!!Your friend is only making a fool of herself over a character that doesn't look remotely like her's and was more likely inspired by a video game and/or anime or manga than some obscure spaggledog that the artist probably never knew existed till your friend went all passive aggressive on her.Had she just said "oh a character with hair hands like mine what a coincidence" and just moved on none of this would be happening...instead she threw a e-tantrum and created a Bawww journal over something that clearly ain't worth the drama,and believe me it isn't.
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See, that copyright argument has a point. Saying things like "she can't defend her OMG (C) ME ORIGINAL DESIGN" is not an argument and does nothing but make you look like you're relying on stereotypes.
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We use stereotypes because your and your friend's behavior regarding this whole situation is fitting those stereotypes.She made a OC with a certain feature(hair hands)...was informed of a OC with the same feature made by some one who hasn't even heard of her...and got all bent out of shape and made a journal crying about how the creator of the second OC 'stole' her original idea which isn't so original because it's been around since forever instead of just ignoring it.It's a stunt nine out of every ten sparkle artist pull...that's what the stereotype comes from and sorry to say your friend fits it perfectly.
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Question: How does this dog have coontails? :/ I see black hair with light tips. Coontails are brightly colored and striped/ringed, yes?
And again, it's not her idea. I had a character hair-hands back in middle school for crying out loud. OLD CONCEPT IS OLD.
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Coontails = not the issue. Hair-hands are the issue. Invalid argument is invalid.
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This is a dog with two hair-hands placed in the precise area of coontails...
Ah.
I misread.
The area?
Uh...
What?
The hairstyle is an issue or no?
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Area, as in the sides of the head are a common area for that long strand of hair. I had no better term for the placement/style than "coontails," though I didn't mean coontails themselves. Should have phrased it better.
It's referring to the argument that this is equivalent to that one Zelda character, who uses a completely different area and percentage of hair. The coincidence would have been more believable if it had used any part of the hair but that specific side-of-the-head one.
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I had a character years ago with similar hair. The strands on the side, at least.
His hair was shapeshift-able, and he tended to morph the longer bits into hands.
Alas, this character was humanoid, and not a dog, but you see my point.
Chelsea did not create nor come up with the original concept of hair-hands or even hair-hands on the side of the head, therefore she has no right to bash and berate others who use it. She posted a journal slandering another artist and crying wolf, which was childish and stupid.
All of you little fanbrats need to get off *shtiglitz 's back and grow up.
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