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silvanoir In reply to runewuff [2017-09-22 02:43:02 +0000 UTC]

Same here.  This is all based on stories I wrote between ages 13-17 and was from my immense boredom and direct desire to turn into a huge creature that no one would mess with and bust out of class and go around wrecking whatever I pleased.  The original draft is very different- in that she thinks its awesome and goes around rampaging and only changes her mind when she has to face some actual consequences.  The older I got, the more I changed it so that she is initially disturbed by it and only came to accept it later when she had more control.  I think it makes more sense for the character, being a popular pretty rich girl... she already has what she wants, so no desire to become a literal monster.

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runewuff In reply to silvanoir [2017-09-22 03:15:32 +0000 UTC]

Huh, the original would make an interesting story in its own way - typical bored teenage outcast, maybe a furry - learns his lesson. Almost a teenage version of those books for little kids where too much of what you want has consequences.

LOL now that I think about it, I remember listening to black metal to summon the Devil so he could transform me, lol

 I am myself tinkering with unfinished stories I wrote at the same age... I honestly started a "12-page" comic knowing it was a learning experience, and at the end of Month 1, (May-ish?) 20-pages in, realized that compared to page-20, the same characters on pages 1-10 were awful. Redrawing it all would be grueling, and This One Pose on page-21 stumped me. The perils of learning too quickly...

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silvanoir In reply to runewuff [2017-09-22 18:35:53 +0000 UTC]

It was like that, in a way.  She eventually got arrested for stomping on people and destroying buildings, the judge telling her "temporarily dragon is not a defense".  That was the first draft.  All other drafts went in a different direction.

I didn't have the internet until the fall of when I was 15 so I didn't know what a furry was until then.  But there were lots of characters transformed into animals and other supernatural things (vampires, faries, superpowers, demons, aliens, etc).  In different stories I did have characters that were furries, talking animal-people... one was an alternate Earth (Canid Earth) the other was a scifi story where Mars was colonized and animal-people hybrids were created as cheap labor (until some rebelled).

Pfft, I never tried to summon the devil, but I became wolf-obsessed in the summer when I was 14 and spent a lot of time in the woods hoping if I spent most of the day there I'd turn into a werewolf ...somehow.  14 is a weird age.  I think the Japanese have a word for it, the demon and other weirdness obsessed part of being a young teen.  This is also how I found furry art when I was 15... first thing I did when I got the internet at home was to look up dragon and wolf pictures.  Thankfully for the first few months I only came across CLEAN art archives.  So I never had the first bad impression that most mainstream people have of it being "perverts in mascot costumes".  I was so jazzed to see other people who liked talking-animal-characters and mythical creatures as much as me, even adults from around the world!  Oh, to get that innocent time back.

I know how that can be!  keeping art consistent is hard... sometimes I find I start out good, somewhere in the middle I get tired and the effort goes down, then the end looks better.  Or, sometimes, like you, it starts out not so great then I figure out a better way to do it so that latter pages look better.  What pose?  maybe a site like www.posemaniacs.com could help?

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runewuff In reply to silvanoir [2017-09-23 17:13:24 +0000 UTC]

Ooh yeah, 14 is when... well, I -thought- I was normal, but when my teenage instincts were switched on, I had several extra instinct other people don't seem to. On top of the usual lust, romantic attractions, Animal-behaviors like powerful urges to claw (the poor furniture), howl at the moon, stretch out in the sun, run wild in the woods, hunt my own food. Perhaps in a more primitive age, a tribal culture, this wouldn't have been a problem. As it was, it took me a couple years to start to realize other people didn't seem to have these same feelings, and even longer to control them.

Your introduction to furry sounds similar to mine, though I didn't find it until I was 21 (I think), and entirely by accident.

Hrm, the pose was just supposed to be one character is handing the other some money. The hands would be in center. Complicating things, one is on a (sci-fi) bike. The POV is nominally the "passenger" rider on back of the bike, but the "camera" can move around as-needed. The act of attempting to cramp this into the upper corner of a comic page destroyed it - I can get SOMEthing to come out, but I'm not happy. So this is not a common pose there would be references for, but I swear I remember one or two images, but I can't remember where they were. It was at this time, I began to notice my characters designs were "drifting" severely as I levelled up (no consistency! UGH).

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silvanoir In reply to runewuff [2017-09-26 02:01:22 +0000 UTC]

Ah, I didn't experience that, but still, to this day, when cornered I react like a cornered animal.  Wanting to bite and claw at whoever is blocking my way or threatening me.  Bare my "fangs".  Human being are animals and I think some of us retain some of the old animal instincts.  There's a popular tumblr post about wanting to run up the stairs on all 4s, not something I ever wanted to do, but lots of non-furries seem to identify with it. 

Have you tried looking at stills from Akira?  There's good bike-riding scenes in that, especially towards the beginning (I assume by bike you mean motorcycle).

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runewuff In reply to silvanoir [2017-09-27 01:39:41 +0000 UTC]

Heh, running up and down the stairs on all fours I did ALL the time as a little kid. Pure nostalgia for me, believe it or not. *nods* I think a lot of human behavior makes sense when you bear in mind we were little fuzzy things hiding in little burrows from stomping dinosaurs for 150 million years, and then walked around on four legs for another 50 million years.

...been meaning to watch Akira, since it's a classic, and even a short clip from it looks like "OMG people had to draw all that!"

Yeah, any sitting-on-a-motorcycle pose will certainly help, but now that I think about it, my inspiration was a little scooter bounding along. Ah well, Between that and how I broke down what I need in the process of complaining about it, it seems I know exactly what I need, just's a matter of screwing up the courage for another attempt.

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silvanoir In reply to runewuff [2017-09-28 23:41:38 +0000 UTC]

It explains why I know people with a fear of birds, even very small finches and sparrows.  It doesn't make sense for a 5 ft and above human to be afraid of a tiny chirpy feather ball, but when you consider the residual evolutionary memory of being little mammals in burrows being afraid of hawk-like predatory birds flying above the grassy plain that want to catch and eat them, it does.

Oh yeah, you gotta watch Akira... the plot may not make tons of sense (they tried to condense a very long manga into a movie and.... ehh...) BUT THE VISUALS!  Such amazing hand-drawn details!
As for animes with scooters, FLCL is a must.
But its good you figured it out.  Sometimes we just need someone to vent to.

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