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Matiyah [2024-02-21 05:49:17 +0000 UTC]
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ChronoSquare [2017-11-08 17:32:17 +0000 UTC]
I knew this was gonna be this, yet I was hoping somehow SOMEHOW that the thumbnail "Double Stand" would be something Jojo related.
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CleverMessenger [2017-04-06 11:43:52 +0000 UTC]
You're getting a watch from me. I'm glad someone else on this site has a rational point of view.
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kyrtuck [2017-04-04 15:45:38 +0000 UTC]
Stereotyping is confusing to me.
Usually, its a bad thing. But then...what's National pride? Seems to be nothing but stereotypes in clothing and foodstuffs, or that's just the most visible form of national pride.
I once made a thread about when accents are considered good or bad, most of the responses said it was all about context.
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SirSonicBoom3 [2017-04-02 04:13:52 +0000 UTC]
Well no, there is no double standard when it comes to racism.
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AliceLiddellWndrland In reply to SirSonicBoom3 [2017-04-06 01:54:25 +0000 UTC]
And don't get in my way, I'm a Jr. Lawyer and most of these things you're saying is just so cringey.
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AliceLiddellWndrland In reply to SirSonicBoom3 [2017-04-06 01:53:18 +0000 UTC]
Actually, there is. I'm Hispanic myself and yet my aunt is racist 'The White Man'. If one self sees his race as superior than the other or bashing on another race, that's racism. Blacks can hate on Whites, Asians can hate on Europeans, etc... that's racism.
Definition of racism
1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2a : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principlesb : a political or social system founded on racism
3: racial prejudice or discrimination (Merrian-Webster)
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SirSonicBoom3 In reply to SilverKazeNinja [2017-04-03 03:49:20 +0000 UTC]
You do know there is more to racism than placing negative descriptions to races right?
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SilverKazeNinja In reply to SirSonicBoom3 [2017-04-03 05:12:57 +0000 UTC]
I also know that racism can work both ways. If I'm not allowed to talk about another race like that, neither should they.
If I said anything negative about Latinos, Muslims, Jews, Asians, etc., there'd be an uproar.
But talk shit about white people? Not a peep.
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SirSonicBoom3 In reply to SilverKazeNinja [2017-04-03 05:52:59 +0000 UTC]
Of course there wouldn't be a peep about it. Racism doesn't work that way. It does not work both ways. Think about it this way, I'll ask you this question. Is it acceptable for you to make fun of your parents/siblings/relatives? Or call them names in anyway? I'm asking not in terms of would you make fun of your relatives (of course it is not 'acceptable') but I am asking do you have the right or is it more acceptable for you to make fun of your relatives or make jokes about them kind of like what the typical family does?
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SirSonicBoom3 In reply to LilCoqui [2017-04-03 21:08:26 +0000 UTC]
Well I'm sorry that you hate the facts. Revealing your outburst on the matter just shows how you prove the point of how strong racism persists today.
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LilCoqui In reply to SirSonicBoom3 [2017-04-03 21:51:45 +0000 UTC]
I'm sorry to disappoint you, kid, but you're not stating facts at all. What you're doing is preaching the cancerous bullshit spewed by self-entitled brats who think they can get away with shit simply because they happen to be non-white. The definition of racism says nothing about only white people being racist.
rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
"a program to combat racism"
synonyms:racial discrimination, racialism , racial prejudice, xenophobia , chauvinism , bigotry , casteism
"Aborigines are the main victims of racism in Australia"
See? Nothing here, absolutely NOTHING here, says that only white people can be racist and not non-white people.
Non-white people can be racist as well, to both white people and non-white people alike. In fact, let me give you some examples. I'll be sure to explain it carefully, since judging from the things you have been posting, I can tell you're slow at learning.
Both my mom and I have been living in the US for six years now, specifically in New Jersey. During our time here, we have had black people treating both mom and I like shit simply for being Latinas. We have even been told to go back to Puerto Rico. Other people like us have experienced the same thing here from black people as well. In short, a group of non-white people, specifically black people, is being racist to another group of non-white people, Latins .
Lets give you another example. As I mentioned, I'm a non-white person. If I were to treat a white person like garbage simply for being for being white, that would be racism. It would be me, a non-white person, being racist to a white person. ¿Comprendes o todavia no? If not, then I present you with more examples. And don't even think of using the "this and that site is being biased/rightwing/leftwing/racist" excuse to cop out.
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And don't even think about giving me this whole "non-white people can only be prejudice" bullshit, because racial prejudice is still fucking racism. Every time you people try to attempt to redefine racism to suit your selfish needs you make yourselves look like a bunch of pathetic uneducated brats. You people are a fucking headache and the only thing you know how to do is make a mess of things.
You freely label even the most petty things a white person does involving a non-white person "racism", but when a non-white person commits an atrocity against a white person for their race, you people either stay silent or claim the white person probably did something racist to deserve it.
You are right about one thing, though. Strong racism does persist; however, it's not in the way you think it is.
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SirSonicBoom3 In reply to LilCoqui [2017-04-03 22:18:01 +0000 UTC]
First off there is no need for such rude language. Second of all, you are limiting racism to the mere definition which is a problem. That's like me giving a definition of what a dog is straight from the dictionary but anyone who has owned a dog can tell you that they are more some just four legged canine animal. Or that I just limit you to just your ID card but I know you're more than just your age and sex. Even a dermatologist can tell you the skin does much more than simply covering your body; it allows sweat to go through, protects you like a shield from diseases, there's three types of skin and much more but you don't see that in the dictionary, do you?
I'm sorry for what blacks have done to you and your mother but what they have done to you just because of what you are is not racism. We all know that whites have the power in this country, male or female otherwise. They control many things, media, the government and are represented everywhere etc. Let's take your example in this analogy. Blacks and Latinos/as are wildebeest and zebras. They may not like each other and may attack each other but if a lion were to attack either of them it is called predation. Can you exactly call it predation if a zebra or wildebeest attacks a lion?
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LilCoqui In reply to SirSonicBoom3 [2017-04-04 00:57:31 +0000 UTC]
"First off there is no need for such rude language."
Compared to other responses people could have given you, my language's pretty tame.
"Second of all, you are limiting racism to the mere definition which is a problem."
You claim racism is only white people against nonwhite people, and yet I'M the one limiting the definition of racism? Do you need me to post it again? I can get it for you in Spanish if you want too.
"That's like me giving a definition of what a dog is straight from the dictionary but anyone who has owned a dog can tell you that they are more some just four legged canine animal. Or that I just limit you to just your ID card but I know you're more than just your age and sex. Even a dermatologist can tell you the skin does much more than simply covering your body; it allows sweat to go through, protects you like a shield from diseases, there's three types of skin and much more but you don't see that in the dictionary, do you?"
Has anyone ever told you that these "analogies" or whatever the fuck you're trying to provide to us are pointless and are completely irrelevant to the topic? Seeing the responses you have been giving to people, you have a really bad habit of doing this, and when you use these kinds of comparisons with serious topics like this, it really doesn't make you sound smart.
"I'm sorry for what blacks have done to you and your mother but what they have done to you just because of what you are is not racism."
You're "sorry"? You claim you're sorry, and yet you're dismissing our experience claiming it wasn't racism? Fucking seriously? What we experienced was fucking racism. We have been told to go back to Puerto Rico by black people, including a black woman at the welfare office when we were at risk of being kicked out to the streets. We had applied early to try to move into some apartments in our city, only to be completely ignored along with other Latins and white people because black people were automatically put on the top of the list and given priority, and before you claim we are lying, it had been confirmed by an employee that worked at their leasing office. We have had black people demanding for us to stop speaking Spanish because we're in America, and best part of this? When we had a white person tell us that, he got in trouble, but when we were told that by a black person, said person never got in trouble for it. Beautiful double standards, no? There's a lot of black people here who will treat other races like garbage, even at their jobs, where its fucking illegal, and yet they give all the respect to their own race. You know what all of this is? RACISM. RACISMO. The very same thing they bitch about 24/7. So yeah, it's fucking racism, plain and simple. Even other black people, who aren't ignorant and blind like you are, know this kind of shit is fucking racism.
"We all know that whites have the power in this country, male or female otherwise. They control many things, media, the government and are represented everywhere etc."
Wait, your location says "United States". So, where the fuck have you been during these eight years? Australia?
"Let's take your example in this analogy. Blacks and Latinos/as are wildebeest and zebras. They may not like each other and may attack each other but if a lion were to attack either of them it is called predation. Can you exactly call it predation if a zebra or wildebeest attacks a lion?"
You know what I call your analogies and comparisons? Retarded and irrelevant. In fact, if I wanted to twist your little analogy right there, I could easily accuse you of racism. How? By claiming that you're calling nonwhite people weak subhumans and white people strong humans, despite the fact that nonwhite people and white people are both humans regardless of race. But I won't do that, because I know that you're just randomly trying to toss whatever analogy you can think of out there to try to make your argument sound more convincing.
I will still say this, though. Every time you claim that only white people are capable of racism while nonwhite people are incapable, you're being racist. You're painting white people as beings capable of more evil than nonwhite people, when nonwhite people can be just as evil. And this kind of shit you and people with the same mindset as yours constantly preach is one of the reasons why I've grown to fucking hate people in general so damn much. The illogical shit you people come up with, the horrible things you defend, the double standards, the lies; it's fucking disgusting and it has become the norm. And it's not just with racism. This shit also applies with sexism. I know a lot of you will also claim males are incapable of experiencing sexism, despite the fact that that's not true. And even with fucking evidence, which I provided and you completely fucking ignored, you people will still claim racism is whites against nonwhites only, and claim sexism is men against women only. You people refuse to learn. The only thing you people seek to do is change things to suit your agenda and play the blame game while completely ignoring all the problems and destructive behavior you're causing and encouraging.
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SirSonicBoom3 In reply to LilCoqui [2017-04-04 03:15:46 +0000 UTC]
First off, did I say white people are capable of more evil than non whites? No, I did not so please do not put that in my mouth. Second of all, we can have a nice conversation since I am willing to hear your views you are bashing mine in a rude manner. What you have told me is tame compared to others? As if it means that it is acceptable to bash and curse on people's thoughts depending what the topic is. I think you can do better than that.
You automatically equate racism=evil which is also a problem. Of course you would call my analogies irrelevant because you don't see how they fit into the picture. Of course the blacks didn't get in trouble cause there is nothing in the power that they could do you compared that whites could in general. That's like the poor bashing on others that are poor, there's no deep impact. I'm not saying that non-whites are not capable of evil, but they sure are not the ones running America. Anyone is capable of doing evil towards other groups (by which its natural for one to prefer their group over the other since we do that with sport teams all the time) but the question is who has the power to do that right now? It's not blacks and it's not hispanics.
Blacks can hate you, push you and tell you all the mean things that you suffered (Which off I am not calling you a liar) but they are not in power to make their hurtful comments an actual reality of systematically oppressing you and others who look like you. Blacks never made actual laws (real laws) to prevent another group from getting certain things in America. How can they be racists when they're the real victims of it?
You're right, blacks and whites and other races are human beings but this is a hierarchal country. By your logic that women can be sexist (speaking of which men were the ones who made laws and not women) and non whites can be racist, I suppose that the poor can oppress the rich as well.
I was trying to show my views on the matter. I am done speaking to you about this but it was good to hear your point of view regardless. Have a good day.
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WolfMueller In reply to SirSonicBoom3 [2017-04-03 23:51:09 +0000 UTC]
Fuck everyone that gives a fuck about skin color. While we're at it, fuck their opinions too. There your little argument is done. Go find something else to complicate.
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SirSonicBoom3 In reply to WolfMueller [2017-04-04 00:02:22 +0000 UTC]
You're saying the same thing about your own opinions dude.
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WolfMueller In reply to SirSonicBoom3 [2017-04-04 00:25:37 +0000 UTC]
LMFAO nice reverse psychology. Have a shitty day.
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SilverKazeNinja In reply to SirSonicBoom3 [2017-04-03 06:09:53 +0000 UTC]
Parents would point out that you should stop making fun of your relative. And if the roles were reversed, the parent would tell THEM to stop making fun of YOU. Neither scenario gives the victim or aggressor the right to be such.
Whatever point you were trying to make, I don't think that was the way to make it.
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SirSonicBoom3 In reply to SilverKazeNinja [2017-04-03 06:22:37 +0000 UTC]
I'm not talking about whether or not parents should tell you to make fun of your relative. I'll take this a different route, it's normal for brothers and sisters to fight each other and make fun of each other right? I am not sure if you have siblings or not so let's say that you do have siblings and you fight and make fun of your brothers and sisters all the time. How would you like it if I made fun of your brothers and sisters and fought with them? Would you accept me doing that or would you have a problem with me making fun of your siblings, something you do in the typical family?
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McClanaface In reply to SirSonicBoom3 [2017-04-05 09:36:30 +0000 UTC]
Racism is prejudice towards another race, simply because of their race. It isn't because of what they did or what kind of person they are. Its the generalization of a group of people, so yes this is racist.
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SilverKazeNinja In reply to SirSonicBoom3 [2017-04-04 02:30:54 +0000 UTC]
Uhm, not much difference in scenario there. My statement still stands.
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SirSonicBoom3 In reply to SilverKazeNinja [2017-04-04 03:04:23 +0000 UTC]
Then this then, if you have a sibling only you can call them names (which siblings do all the time) but I don't have the right to call your brother or sister names. Only you can. Or in another instance I don't have the right to park in a handicap spot if I am not legitimately handicapped but the ones who are handicapped are. That's not a double standard. It would be messed up that someone who is able bodied (white in this case) would call names and other insults towards the handicapped (blacks, asians, hispanics etc) but if it were the other way around there's not too much damage there. Not saying it wouldn't hurt, but if I were to be very rich and the poor said some nasty insults towards me, all they really done was prove how rich I was.
But I do appreciate the conversation we're having. Nice talk.
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SilverKazeNinja In reply to SirSonicBoom3 [2017-04-04 03:09:18 +0000 UTC]
Hate to break it to you, bud, but your analogies STILL don't have any correlation to the initial issue. There's no connection to make your argument with.
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SirSonicBoom3 In reply to SilverKazeNinja [2017-04-04 03:45:41 +0000 UTC]
Of course it does. If a handicap did stuff to me or call be able bodiest or something, does that really hurt me? No.
How is it racist? Even if they tell you hurtful stuff like that (which everyone gets called on names and such) how does that hurt white people in general besides getting their feelings hurt? Does whites' lives go on as if nothing happened?
Has anyone called you a racist? If so, how has that hurt you personally?
Still, good talk.
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SilverKazeNinja In reply to SirSonicBoom3 [2017-04-04 08:01:03 +0000 UTC]
No, it's NOT a good talk, because you keep using analogies that make no sense and show no connection in regard to the issue at hand.
Red Card, ejected from the game.
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SirSonicBoom3 In reply to SilverKazeNinja [2017-04-04 08:12:00 +0000 UTC]
Look, I'm just having a conversation with you. Just because you don't understand them doesn't mean they are invalid in any way. You mean I cannot have a good talk with you just to talk about a deep subject? Never once had you asked if I could elaborate and I would have been happy to explain further like others who wanted to know more about things that didn't make sense to them. You have not even answered my question about how does being called a racist personally affects you and disrupts your life? And we're not playing a game thank you very much. Have a good day.
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SilverKazeNinja In reply to SirSonicBoom3 [2017-04-04 09:20:29 +0000 UTC]
If I say the analogy doesn't work, that usually means you're not making sense. That in itself should mean that you need to clarify, rather than use another analogy. You keep changing analogies the way you do, you fail to make sense and it gives the impression you actually don't know what you're talking about.
Non-black-targeting racism doesn't just affect white people.
JonTron was labeled a racist because some of his words got taken out of context.
George Zimmerman was labeled a racist for killing Michael Brown (out of self-defense, may I add).
I've seen a guy being made fun of and slandered for being white, and called a privileged racist to his face, even though he was actually Hispanic.
You are so separated from reality for the purpose of making your case and pushing your narrative, that you'll literally do everything in your power to ignore the facts and common sense. This is what's called Cognitive Dissonance: the concept of being so deeply rooted in your beliefs and ideology that any facts, evidence and opinions get either ignored, disregarded or shouted down, even if you're the one in the wrong. It's no different than a child locking the door to their room and plugging their ears.
If you're so sure that there's no double standard, come back when you have an analogy that actually has a connection with the issue at hand, and actually have an argument to make with it.
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SirSonicBoom3 In reply to SilverKazeNinja [2017-04-04 10:30:38 +0000 UTC]
Of course if you say if it doesn't work it does not make sense. I bet there's alot of things you don't understand but that doesn't mean something doesn't work. That's logical.
First off those are less rare circumstances. Yes a white person can be attacked for being white but you're seeing things in a much smaller scale. (maybe you can understand this one) You don't make rules based upon the exception. Whites who get attacked and are called racists are the exception. Yes whites can get hurt because of skin color, not denying that but the few does not outweigh the many especially since whites are the majority. People who smoke for years and turn out absolutely fine does not disregard the fact that cigarettes are dangerous. Maybe you know this one, just because a zebra kills a lion just because they are a lion doesn't mean they are a predator. Have whites ever been (as a whole) denied going to a certain place by other people of color by laws? Zimmerman is labeled a racist, sure, but he's alive right now isn't he? Did racism affect Zimmerman and others the same way it controls every aspect of a black person's life? You can call Zimmerman a racist all day but that's not going to affect his overall well being in terms of getting good housing and so much more. What laws did blacks and other people of color were able to put on white people? Racism like the other isms is a system and that depends on who the system favors.
Didn't you just give me the red card? Or are you done? Why you are pestering on this I don't know. I replied and I simply gave my point of view. This was never a debate. I'm done. Have a good day.
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SilverKazeNinja In reply to SirSonicBoom3 [2017-04-04 11:14:59 +0000 UTC]
Oh, I'm sorry, you said we're not playing a game, so that would mean the Red Card doesn't count then.
True, my understanding something is not a requirement for that something to work. However, your analogies do not fulfill either condition.
Never a debate? Let me pull up some of the things you said on this topic, not limited to myself:
>"Well I'm sorry that you hate the facts."
Projecting a bit, there? You were so happy to disregard 's sources and citations.
>"Can you exactly call it predation if a zebra or wildebeest attacks a lion?"
That literally implies that one feeds off of the other and were never meant to be equals in the first place. Which, as far as the human race is concerned, is debatable at best. I'll have to question the correlation there, if there even is one.
>"It would be messed up that someone who is able bodied (white in this case) would call names and other insults towards the handicapped (blacks, asians, hispanics etc) but if it were the other way around there's not too much damage there."
In light of recent years and SJWs' bullshitery, I would like to inform you that "ableism" is a thing. SJWs like to make up buzzwords and make it so they can discredit people to oblivion. This is one of them.
>"You don't make rules based upon the exception. Whites who get attacked and are called racists are the exception."
Except here's the thing: You've probably heard the phrase "Vocal Minority" at some point. Key phrase being Vocal MINORITY (For example, black people, which makes up less than a sixth of the national US population). The opposite is the Silent MAJORITY. If the Majority is silent, that means the Minority is doing all the talking. Out of everybody doing the talking, who's the exception then? You can't really have an exception that's LARGER than the Minority.
>"Have whites ever been (as a whole) denied going to a certain place by other people of color by laws?"
Well, I've yet to see or hear anything about white people joining the Black Panthers or NAACP.
>"Did racism affect Zimmerman and others the same way it controls every aspect of a black person's life?"
Actually, it did. The media tried to paint it as a white-on-black crime, in spite of the fact that Zimmerman was actually a Latino, Michael Brown was the aggressor between the two, and the whole "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" thing was proven to be a lie after video evidence showed that not only did Brown NOT raise his hands in surrender, but he even tried to steal a cop's gun and hold up a convenience store. Ever since, people have branded, slandered and humiliated Zimmerman to no end. That kind of bad publicity tends to hit your resume pretty hard.
Still don't think white people can be victims of racism just like anyone else? Milwaukee riots? Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson's lectures? All those white people getting beat up and assaulted for voting for Trump in the past election (and even some who didn't)? Do none of those make you question your thought process, even for a moment?
You say you're done, yet you keep responding. You could just as easily ignore the comment and move on, but you're so eager to make whatever point you have, just to try and get the last word. If you were really done, you wouldn't reply. Maybe the Red Card was the hint that you had no argument and no purpose for trying to continue, and yet, you do anyway.
Long story short, if you keep acting like you're gonna back out, try to actually restrain yourself from going back in.
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onyxcarmine [2017-03-30 13:30:14 +0000 UTC]
Sometimes I feel ashamed of being a leftist because of shit like this
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leoryff [2017-03-30 03:37:39 +0000 UTC]
I HAVE AN OPINION!!!
There! I just offended 30+ people I will never meet! God love the internet. (And there's another 50 offended!)
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MilitaryLover [2017-03-30 03:22:11 +0000 UTC]
The left doesn't understand what real racism is. They are stuck in 1860 in an alternate universe, and let me remind you democrats wanted the slaves while conservatives ended it! It's fucking stupid, and everyone can see through their lies & double standards!
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kyrtuck In reply to MilitaryLover [2017-04-04 15:41:51 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, that was way back when Democrats were fighting over State's Rights....which is now a Republican Conservative thing.
Mind you, even Abraham Lincoln didn't love blacks, just because he freed them. He didn't want them to vote or marry whites.
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MilitaryLover In reply to SilverKazeNinja [2017-03-30 03:26:29 +0000 UTC]
Also if the Left wasn't so transparently dumb they might have gotten away with it, in the end they got a economic nationalist (not the fascist kind) billionaire who actually wanted to do something about it.
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SilverKazeNinja In reply to MilitaryLover [2017-03-30 04:00:47 +0000 UTC]
Let's not forget all their virtue-signalling bullshit. And yet, WE'RE the racist, homophobic, transphobic fascists they hate so much.
They fail to realize that 90% of the time, they happen to be the very thing they claim to hate.
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kyrtuck In reply to MilitaryLover [2017-04-04 15:42:54 +0000 UTC]
Now you're bashing mental disorders huh? Typical.
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Crimson-Kaizer [2017-03-30 02:59:33 +0000 UTC]
Yuuup. -_-;
Freaking people, man.
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