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Published: 2010-06-06 20:33:35 +0000 UTC; Views: 765; Favourites: 20; Downloads: 0
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I've been toying with this deviation for weeks, and never could quite finish it.Well... I finally did today.
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Thanks, it's one of my older ones.
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heaven & hell the duality...very much one of the mind this
but has a serene beauty laced I guess with the hard edge of darkness of some realities
there is always a deep thought in your art at times many
I think anyway
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Yes, I've been told that and it is true. I do try to use my art to express what sense I've made of the world, or perhaps some minute scenario I had experiences, witnessed or heard of.
I think you're the only person thus far who's really grasped this one's meaning though. Most people just think it's "pretty" and move on..
& thanks again
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well thats exactly my thoughts on art for us
it comes from our view of the world or what sense we make of it with emotion and our perceptions or views, and what comment we want to make
maybe they just don't really want to comment on the darker side
but for me coming from poverty, I seen a lot of what external forces can do to a marriage and when we hurt we tend to take our frustrations and hurt out on those we love and sadly for some it can become better the devil you know then what you don't
(way some stay with abusive partners but some are just abusive arseholes with deep problems that go back to childhood etc)
so sure there can be happiness and bliss in marriage and a lot can still have those moments but I kinda think happiness is more the rarity in this world for most all of us
it don't matter how much money you got
you can't buy happiness (well true happiness) so its something I think we need to try and find for our selfs...
Sadly the external can drive a wedge between people so I think for a marriage to survive it has to be the two working together rather then torturing each other..which is what tends to happen to a lot
Also you need to work it from respect for each other as human beings
(sadly woman can still be treated more like cows but some can also tread there husbands no better too)
So its not easy I think marriage but you both got to stand beside each other in support of each other, not let the world tear you apart...a few positive comments can make a world of difference when someone hurting rather then taking it out on them
Just my thoughts dear but I am sure you understand where I am coming from
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Hmmm... I don't really think that's always true. People like to think artists and authors always create paintings, drawings and books to make or state a certain point. This isn't always true. Sometimes we just want to tell a story, or doodle. That people find morals and values and lessons in those works are purely coincidental. Art is such an ambiguous field that everything is open to interpretation and re-interpretation by its viewers, audience etc.
I was raised in a broken family, with two bickering, married parents, so my malcontent with marriage comes from there. I didn't COME from poverty, but I have experienced it at several times in my life due to recession, or bad economic decisions in the family, or parents losing their jobs etc. I don't really think poverty has anything to do with marital problems. Poor people can be happy together, too. It's the abusive culture and the selfishness and the substance abuse that creates the problem- even among the rich.
& I understand you just fine
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yes I should have broadened that statement was a bit selective in thought...true enough stories and fiction fantasy is very much part of it & us and our thoughts
so stand corrected on that dear..
Actually I think fairytails always seem to have a message in them or rather that seem to be what is said of them but I think so too
true thought it is sometimes just us that applies the meaning not what the artist intended or possibly even thought of at all
well I do agree, there too... again I was stating it more from my view point and trying not to wrote long winded reply but yes like all things economics doesn't rally so much determine this but does I think a lot of the time factor into the equation for many
from where I grew up lack of money, abuse of booze etc was for most families some of items that created the friction & tension between married people..
(and yeah there always seems to be money for booze)
there is as you say many many more reasons
but the results are the same, people in conflict...and mostly they blame each other for the misery they find them selfs in, real or imagined
children sadly end up the victims of watching parents being horrible to each other.. at best, at worse become the outlet for parents frustrations..and that is truly sad
you are right there too you can have nothing but be happy with each other and truly thats what we should all strive to achieve in love and a relationship
being supportive of each other..sadly most of the time on the whole we never are
I could waffle some more but wont
Glad you do dear and thank you
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Fairy tales do have meaning to them. I didn't specifically mean fairy tales when I say some artist create just for the point/fun of doing it. I meant in general. We don't over think. And a true artist does not create for the audience, but for themselves. That other people were able to view/hear works from Shakespeare, Picasso, Beethoven is nothing short of a privilege.
I don't trust the whole "institute" of marriage. Not in the contemporary context. Love, to me, is a far more important guarantee than a silly ring. But unfortunately, love is even more rare than marriages, or even marriages that work.
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Oh I got what you meant dear just more focusing in the comment on Fairytale
and some of mine have been that but some people seem to find a deeper meaning for them selfs in it..
(which is interesting)
just you started a train of thought about them
more so red ridinghood was on my mind
(I've been doing an art but not cause of the movie atm just cause I liked the stocks.. on the movie I haven't seen it yet and really no idea what its about except for love I think from some angle)
and a song by a band from Switzerland
I like... but can never remember there name oh got it
Band ELUVEITIE song is Omnos
which sort of is more the fact of the fairy tail in kind of a way
the lyrics for it [link]
so really kind of a warning about the evils of men and fair maidens to beware...which speaking of love I guess is kinda the nature of it...
(oh I guess the religion thing here too, stay a virgin)
(someone mentioned it being a Celtic red ridinghood tail)
I have a few theories & thoughts on love
but wont bore you with them all but here's a bit
Suffice to say it really depends on how you define love for you and what you get
does it meet your idea of love?
Marriage to me well of old, its a great way of controlling STD's I think (so all the church/religion BS aside)
and if you think of the church as being minders, shepherds of the flock well its one way of keeping people from some terrible sickness and ensuring the next generation (as best they can) being healthy...which isn't such a bad idea really in its self..just use a little "fear" to control people..
sadly the truth of it.. nature says go forth and propagate so basically males cant keep it in their shorts..females are looking for someone strong and healthy to have their young with and protect them..we of course decided this ins't for us and so placed our self above nature with our intelligence
boom boom, just my thoughts and not complete
the short answer for love
Love comes from us to us, of someone or something
(and it can be our heaven or hell depending)
But agree, to get our idea of love for us
with someone can be rare indeed
Oh and in every love a little rain must fall or big storms more likely
but its how you whether the storms together,
(when in conflict with each other especially)
that makes the sunshine full of happiness in the days that it rolls in..again just my thoughts & subject to discussion, modification .. & revised theory
anyway its a big subject and open to much discussion really
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Not quite sure I was even aware of a movie being done. I'm not really a movie person, but best wishes with the art and I hope you enjoy the movie when it does come out.
Conflict is acceptable only if it is brief and constructive. Prolonged and chronic irritation and fighting is a very bad sign. Of course, some couples do eventually recover from these moments, but they also tend to repeat them when things become difficult again.
I think I have somewhat discarded the idea of eternal love. Not in my generation. We are too selfish. Love is selfless. Love in a realistic sense (rather than its ideal version) seems to be more of a moment in lasting, than a lifetime.
PS- I recently started a club #DaethlyDeviations basically for the people I've featured over the years, as well as, anyone else/other art of their caliber. Feel free to watch. I remember how you liked the features.
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yeah its funny you know like I see the older generation and they survive the second world war
and still are married a lot of them and got marriage young
you kinda wonder how or why they are but for them life was thought like I mean real hard compared to today
everything you got you basically worked for and saved for no credit cards then (few loan sharks yes)
maybe its the scale of things that cause mostly now we got full bellies Ipods and TVs etc that we can afford to be selfish and carry that into relationships
were as if you got nothing much but each other & fighting to put food in your mouth and keep a roof over your head you might be more incline to work together..it an interesting thought dear on selfish what you said in relation to relationships
I think you are on the money cause a lot of fighting when it becomes conflict is one person wanting something their way and refusing to see the other side or another view on a matter
Oh dear thanks I'll watch it dear
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Even with wars, life was simpler then and people were more honest I think. Also, I think older couples have less expectancies about relationships and therefore tend to be more lenient and tolerant with each other. Our generation demands more.
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yeah I agree with that dear ..life was simpler then.. survive really...ours now is much more cluttered with so many things (distractions really) and yeah sadly I think we have become very demanding of those around us and the world..
(like spoilt brats really)
although I was aware of this a few documentaries
really opened my eyes up to this..
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Stunning work and a very moving and evocative piece.
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YouΒ΄re most welcome
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