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Skargill β Huxley on War and Democracy
Published: 2013-12-17 18:34:02 +0000 UTC; Views: 446; Favourites: 4; Downloads: 3
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Been finding quotations by Aldous Huxley, author of Brave New World, one of my favourites. I don't agree with everything he believed, he was at heart quite the snob, but the fellow was certainly very clever.Related content
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Quite clearly given, hint, the image unless specified otherwise is used to illustrate the quote.
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No, in what context was the quote used by Huxley?
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In reference to modern warfare.
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Yes, but in what context?
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You already have the context, do you not know what that word means?
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What occasion/circumstances led to these words--i.e. in what written piece/speech/telepathic message do they appear?
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So you want the source then, next time ask for what you actually want and maybe you'll get it. He made this statement many times with slight variations. You can find a version quote in ends and means or a collection of his essays for the Peace Pledge Union.
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He's asking the whole passage this quote came from.
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But that isn't context, that's source, and if he really wanted to find that out so badly all he had to do was put it into a search engine.
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No source would be a link to said passage. It's like if you read a book and take one sentence from it. That would be the quote, but if you take the whole paragraph or set of paragraphs that discuss the whole topic, the whole conversation and clarifies how one got to said quote, that would be context.
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"No source would be a link to said passage."
No that's a citation, the source is the passage because its the source of the information. For example
"It was the best of times it was the worst of times" is the quote
Wordsworth classics, Charles Dickens, A Tale of Two Cities Chapter One page One, is the citation, the source is the actual page.
"the whole conversation and clarifies how one got to said quote, that would be context." Actually that isn't always the case, that only contextualises information if the circumstances are deemed important or exceptional. Otherwise it would never stop, I give you a quote you want a paragraph, a paragraph you need the whole chapter and so on. I presented you with the entire book you could ask me for the context of when it was written, the authors state of mind, its place within the entire body of work. etc.
Context isn't an absolute its guidance. This quote is unambiguous and actually states its own context clearly so I don't feel further elaboration is needed.
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Then I guess he wants a source. I don't know.
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Yeah neither do I, sometimes I think people expect me to be a mind reader.
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Well, that's what happens in debates. People post something and their opponents make requests for them to back up their claims or refute against it. If you want my advice, it would be wise to get used to accommodating to their needs so you don't sound like a biased bigot to them.
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But that's not what I'm talking about, someΒ requests are impossible, or phrased in ways that make no sense. Assuming this person wants the source, they didn't ask for a source so I don't know if they want one. How can you accommodate someone's needs when you don't know what they are and they don't tell you?
That isn't debate that's impossible expectations.
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No. They are partially at fault for not being clear, but you would also be at fault for not asking them what they mean. Like you said you don't know what's going on in their minds, so it only makes sense to ask.
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" but you would also be at fault for not asking them what they mean." Bullshit, I'm under no obligation to do other peoples work for them. In a debate you are entirely responsible for your own side of the discourse not others.
"so it only makes sense to ask." Why would it make sense to ask? If they aren't being clear then their presenting a faulty argument, which is their problem not mine or anyone else's. If they can't be bothered to make a clear argument I'm not going to help them, that isn't a debate that's mothering. Their not under time pressure, they have plenty of opportunities to plan out what they want to say and not say.
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You're not obligated to do anything but if you're actually curious about what they mean it does make sense to ask
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"You're not obligated to do anything but if you're actually curious about what they mean it does make sense to ask"
Not if you're debating I'm afraid, in fact doing what you suggest can get you thrown out of a debate (I've seen it happen) because what you're in effect doing is leading the other person in a way that they might not intend or wish.
What you're talking about is a chat, not a debate.
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Well it's worked for me before in debates
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"Well it's worked for me before in debates"
Yeah I know I've done it too, but in most debates its against the rules because its a dishonest tactic. You ask a question because you know the answer, you then ask further questions to lead the answers were you want it to go and entrap the other person. I've done it several times and it's purely about winning and not about reaching proper conclusions. And since there is no way to tell a leading question from a genuine one most moderators discourage them entirely.
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"You ask a question because you know the answer"
So wait you knew what the guy meant when he said context?
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"So wait you knew what the guy meant when he said context?"
Err no I'm explaining why the practice isn't appropriate to debates. I was talking about my past observations and experiences, I never mentioned him at all.
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Well whatever. I was just giving you advice. Now we're in the middle of our own debate and the reason for it is, kind of dumb. You can do whatever you want with your account. I didn't try to make it sound like I'm telling you what to do
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"Well whatever. I was just giving you advice." Well I didn't ask for any but thanks anyway.
"You can do whatever you want with your account." How Magnanimous, I agree fully and extend the same courtesy.
Β "I didn't try to make it sound like I'm telling you what to do" Well I don't wish to be rude here since I believe your intention was to be helpful, but you were telling me what to do very explicitly. A polite instruction is still an instruction. If you don't want to tell me or others what to do then I suggest you remove phrases like "You're at fault" and "it makes sense..." from your advice.
But hey now I'm telling you what to do, so do whatever.
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Well if that's how it sounded I apologize
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Apology warmly accepted.
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I think everyone has the power withing to become a tyrant.... in this modern day.
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I read your comment as a really dark self esteem speech. "Don't you see, you had the power to cause misery and suffering inside you all a long".
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I guess it did come across that way ^^:
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...but only the NSA has the ability!
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Well, any government agency of any nationality has the ability as well.Β They have the paperwork after all.
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In theory yes, but only the NSA/CIA other US defence organisation have the billions of dollars in funding and high tech arms to dominate the world militarily
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A voice has been known to take people places before.
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