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It's the standpipe behind him. Basically the title is a play of words concerning the event in Edward's Brass Band.
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I really can't help but wonder; what is it that makes Edward so popular and loved amongst fans?
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It's simplicity itself, everyone loves an underdog The other factors I suppose are his good natured and wise, almost matriarchal persona combined with a neat and compact looking 4-4-0 design, finished off by a smart primary blue and red livery.
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Always good reasons, though I worry that we as fans may end up making him out to be too perfect. I know he isn't and admittedly he is probably my favourite as well, I just don't really want him to end up like other well loved characters who ended up becoming overrated (and sometimes hated).
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well Sharon Miller tried to change him by hating Rocky and look what the fans did back then
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"he ran off to the next station and there the fireman and friver said that they were pleased with him, the fireman gave him a nice long drink and the driver said:
- i will get my paint tomorrow and give you a beutifull coat of blue with yellow stripes then you will be the smartest engine in the shed"
I LOVE EDWARD!!!XD awsome pic man, did you know that there is a soul survivor of this class? it's in the Netherlands!
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it's him!!!!
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Aye I like Ed too, he's my fav in the series.
Aye I did come across that engine a while back. It's a bit bigger than the K2s but with the cab on top it certainly does look quite 'Edwardy' and i'm glad that it's survived
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The 1600 Class. The nine that were received by the Netherlands Rhenish Railway in 1889 were the first boogie engines in Holland and the first British built engines in Continental Europe. They are described in my book as being good engines of a strait forward design and that between 1891 and 1903 fifty more were built for the Holland Railway Company *It gets a little bit complicated but the NRS was taken over by Holland Railway Company (HSM) & the State Railway Company (SS) in October 1890. Some of these engines were later superheated and became the NS Class PO/1.
It's a shame I don't really know much about this abroad class and I would love to see a superheated one to compare to Edward or one of the briefly superheated K2s but I can tell you they had 6' 8" driving wheels (the same size as Gordon's) and had a 1' 9 & a half" larger wheelbase than the K2s.
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hm i see, soo have you seen my photos of my vacantion to portugal's great railway show? i took some shots of Portugal's finest steamers
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Hmm at 28 pages and counting it might be time you start subdividing your galley I found them though D.Luiz and Mouses are quite nice looking designs and I like the cut into 135's buffer, looks way better than Trojan's.
BTW why do you add watermarks to most of your uploads? It seems really odd you would put one on the Dutch Sharp, Stewart & Co engine as it's not even one you took yourself.
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oh thank you, i really like the portuguese engines, did you know that we have na engine who looks like na Holden B12?
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.....no I didn't know that, i'm afraid my knowledge of international locomotives is relatively limited.
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oh thats ok my friend, soo, i was thinking if we could do some art trade
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What are you after? The only other Terrier paintings I haven't sent you are the two I adopted for my Stepney uploads and this old SiF one I've been meaning to redo once I can find a better copy.
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i,m not after nothing, i just mean this: i would some thing for you and you would do some thing for me like a drawing but sorry
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I see. I've been muling it over while I at last finished my Caledonian Triplets and there is one beautiful painting i've had in limbo for far too long, as for the life of me I can not adapt any of Rheneas's face and I hate the CGI ones. Do you think you could cook up a Season 4/RWS type face to suit this?
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What would you be after yourself?
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nothing i just finished Lady's draft and i draw her face after Britt Alcroft
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I love this photo. It is clear and crisp which didn't always happen when taking pictures back then. Wonder if this is Barrow MPD back in the day?
I can't recognize any features in the shot.
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Great to hear The old photo is still quite bright but I actually took the liberty to remove the various blemishes while I was tidying up my cropping. The location is Carnforth shed, somewhere around 1901-1911 but I can't really pinpoint it further than that.
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Ah it is the old Furness shed which became the sidings on the north west side. Used for Network Rail now. Shed closed when the companies amalgamated. The Midland one was retained as that was nearby. The current one used by WCRC was built in 1944 and replaced them all.
Lovely shot. One of your personal collection?
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Sounds like you know the area, i've more of less got my head around Barrow's set up but the MPDs at Carnforth and Corkickle are areas i'm much less familiar with
Yep it is from my personal collection. Much like the E2s i've been researching the class as much I can, it's probably fair to say I have the most extensive photo collection for both amongst the Sodor community.
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I have a few lovely K2 pictures. Some have been from York but two were, again, eBay purchases.
I plan on joining the Cumbrian Railway Association. The railways from Whitehaven and around there interest me but I just haven't really read up on them.
I do have some cracking books on the FR though.
An old friend, sadly passed away, fired to drivers who had worked many of the FR's top locos, including the K2 as well as the later 4-4-0s and the Baltic tanks. They reckoned there was nothing to touch those tanks but due to standardisation and building new to replace old they had nowhere to put the tanks and scrapped them. Hence why so many FR locos went as quick as they did was due to small classes. LMS were trying to cut class numbers down.
I am tempted, no I have almost got my workshop sorted, to have a crack at a few locos in 7 1/4" gauge.
I wasn't going to bother but I can't help but think about it. A Thomas is a definite but I quite like the idea of doing Neil too. A nice quick and easy build.
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My NRM visit in November did boost my library by about 7 I think, quite fortunate that the K2's seem to be more heavily photoed compared to some of the other classes..couldn't find any new one's for Albert in either forms unfortunately though
I was actually planning to sign up to the group as well but they didn't have a stand at the Scalefour just gone. Bit of a shame that but I did buy as many K2 and some other class pics as I could from the photos list via cheque. That provided my with the bulk of my collection but I also got some from the various Furness Railway books and a few more obscure books.
That's interesting. I've heard the Large Passenger Boogie/Large Stuarts on the Cambrian Railway were well liked and gave a smooth ride but i've come across very little recollections/opinions on the various Cumbrian engines, the K3s being able to get above 60mph between stations is about as juicy a detail as i've got.
Within their territory the Jumbos do seem to have been quite well liked and they indeed did end the need for double heading but general LMS books tend to slam into their inside cylinder, non superheated design
It's a shame the ex-Furness Railway was hit so hard once the LMS pulled itself together but as you say the size of the various passenger classes were pretty small and the K2's numerous counterparts on the Cambrian didn't do much better under the GWR.
I've actually got an E2 body and shell from Knuckles's shop on Shapeways, a J1, a K2 and an 'RWS Edward' too but I need to get off my caboose if they are ever going to roll along under their own power. I'de like to do O gauge or bigger ideally but a 4mm layout is already proving tricky to fit in without compromising too much. Still though if you ever do get into 7 1/4 gauge it will be interesting to see what you come up with
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Jack told me a few stories.
The K classes seem to have been liked generally. When they did double head it was usually because the need to keep time was (obviously) important and some of the locos would struggle to go past the timing points at the correct time.
Also, where I live, the line climbs and it is one of the steepest climbs too. With a twelve coach load on (the modern FR stock or mixed with coaches off LNWR or MR), the climb would knock the wind out of them and more time would be lost. The K4s would romp away with them but then came the adhesion factor. Sometimes the snag was more getting the train started than keeping it moving.
The Big Baltic tanks were superb at that and were great riding locos. So it did prove that superheating, in this case, wasn't needed. However it begs the question of just what the locos could have been like if they had been superheated?
Alas they went the same way as the Glasgow ones.
The only class that really was spared was one of the 0-6-0 goods engine types. Lasted well into BR days and some were reboilered with LYR boilers which had Belpaire firebox.
I got some drawings off the CRA stand at the Barrow model exhibition. I also got some platform seats that are FR ones in 7mm too.
I'd like to model some of the FR trains even if it is just so small selection. To model my OCs and a few Thomas characters would be great.
As for 7 1/4" stuff, I have my lathe and mill set up and a little project that I can tinker away at interests me.
Gives me something to do when I want a break from my standard gauge loco.
Neil would be ideal due to his extremely small size, Toby is another due to his interesting shape and size with Thomas and Percy being the others. All are able to be trailered easy enough and I wouldn't want to haul lots of people any how. All for fun!
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Another very nice K2 image. Great job.
Is Edward on Sodor or the Furness Railway?
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Cheers my dear It's the Furness Railway's south-east terminus point, Carnforth loco shed.
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Yes, steam engines need their water, and in my opinion Edward makes a more representative mascot engine of the North Western Railway due to his stories being more about earned acceptance and perseverance than being permanently restrained to branch line tracks like Thomas and that's how I interpret how the Reverend saw Sodor in his eyes.
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I only mentioned the water crane in the title as a bit of word play of 'Edward Strikes Out'. Duck used to be a very close second but Edward has always been my personal fave.
In the early books I tend to think of the original 5 as being children archetypes. James is the vain daughter who doesn't believe in doing the dirty work. Similarly Gordon thinks the same but being the silverback is even more proud. Henry was the sickly child who eventually made it while Thomas was the small cheeky one that you found hard to punish for long. Edward was always 'the good child', even if he/she wasn't the biggest was always there to do what was required without the need to be supervised by a parent/Fat Controller.
I suppose he's never going to be a poster child in the NWR's advertisement campaign due to his lack of prestige over Gordon but I know what you mean, he is the model of the type of engine that a crew would speak fondly of. His slightly shorter Cambrian counterparts were the most numerous of the railway's stable and they were good work horses as well as being smooth riders.
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