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Description So this is one of my first attempts to create my own personal logo.
Clean, flexible, elegant... anything that I personally like to see in design works.
I'd be glad to hear your opinions/comments as well.
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Comments: 27

Tylon [2012-08-25 17:09:39 +0000 UTC]

It's nice and clean- when I first looked at it the SP really jump out- however at first I read it as a J (must be the blockyness). I am a huge fan of simplistic black and white logos- there is something about them that can just pop. However when incorporating that into an identity and website- often design is colorful and lively and helps bring forth a scheme that is recognizable all in your own. For example- I use really whacked colors - bright orange aqua, navy blue and grey. I incorporate the colors through all of my work- my business cards, cover letters, letterheads, resume even now promotional products. It lets people from afar say "wow!" because it tends to pop. Not that there is anything wrong with clean and elegant- but if you eventually work on a site or some marketing materials- perhaps adding a color or so wouldn't be such a bad idea. I also try to work with many different audiences- and often I have come across situations where I could perfectly read something- but somebody who is much older couldn't- so thankfully it gave me a new insight on what to look for in my own designs and work. Then again I think everybody has their own vision and idea of what they like in design which is why I often feel bad putting forth my opinions. Sometimes others find it helpful- sometimes they see it as destroying their originality and idea- which is by all means the last thing I would ever want to do. I always have so many ideas in my head- and when I see a design that makes me think- I feel like I have to comment. Which this design does- makes you think. I did a lot of identity and marketing while in college- and now I look for the things I was taught in other designs- which is the only reason why I am pointing out these factors. Sometimes it's nice to have another perspective- one you often don't think of.

Perhaps a more square font would really enhance the overall flow of the design- it does seem a little detached from the overall feel of the SP- I also like how you are varying your type- your name all uppercase than lowercase the title. I know for me the hardest part of a logo is the overall final idea to chose from- when I design I am designing at the least 12 or so thumbnails for variety. The great part about this logo is it is very easy to go either black or white- and in the future would make a great watermark for your work. I always felt that a real good logo would look good in color and both black and white.

I hope my words could be of help! You have a very nice presentation too. Keep up the good work!

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sm00chie92 In reply to Tylon [2012-08-25 17:47:41 +0000 UTC]

that was a lovely review Kristina
I am also a lover of black & white but I see your point about colors, it gives them liveliness and work well in macro-typography. I already tried some pop colors on this logo which I didn't publish here; magenta & yellow mostly. I will continue however combining more colors until I find the suitable ones. You are also right about the fact that one should always consider their target audience especially when it comes to their own personal identity (like my case now for example ). I am glad that you see some potential in my work and your comments helped me (the watermark point was something I didn't think of until now)realise some things that need to be fixed.
I will look your gallery later because I liked your point of view and the fact that you took the time to share your opinions with me.
Cheers and have a nice rest of the day.

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Tylon In reply to sm00chie92 [2012-08-25 18:30:10 +0000 UTC]

I am very glad you enjoyed it! I know sometimes I can go overboard.

It would be really neat to see the development of your logo! I know a lot of employers want to see how you work- I'm not sure if you have worked with thumbnails before, but that can also help when troubleshooting designs and ideas as well as colors. Plus I enjoy personally seeing how a design grows and develops- whether it be from a sketch or basic illustration or what. Already you do very clean- elegant presentations. I think every designer is constantly developing- and learning to see their work in different views.

The watermarks will help you if somebody were to ever steal your designs and rip you off without paying. Or if you are working with a client- and you give them a first batch of thumbnails/ ideas- ALWAYS watermark in case they try to take you art without paying. It prevents theft and will favor you if anything legal were to eve happen. Everything digital I would watermark because there are people out there who have no problem taking your graphic, using live trace in illustrator then claiming it as their own. Which is why the BW versions are perfect for that; the lighter the image the darker the watermark. I'm not sure what country you are in- but I know here in the US they take copyright super strict in the design industry- which is why I cannot stress enough watermarks will save you. Not to mention a lot of sites run by US law- and if you were to ever have an issue with theft- it would be in your favor.

I am glad I could be of help! I will have to finish going through your gallery. Always a pleasure to speak with a fellow designer!

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sm00chie92 In reply to Tylon [2012-08-26 10:15:06 +0000 UTC]

Our talk inspired me and I already started working with thumbnails The logo is starting to stand out better with some new fonts that I tried out. I will try the colors later as well after I find the suitable type. I might upload the process in some days so I'd be glad if you see it.
I live in Cyprus, a small Mediterranean island so Graphic Design isn't well-known here, therefore, not much appreciated, but to know how to guard myself from clients or anyone else who try to steal your designs is crucial for anyplace so thank you for sharing this with me. I was aware of the watermarks's use but now I get a better picture and I realised how important it is.
Thank you for helping out a designer.
Have a nice day and always be well.

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Tylon In reply to sm00chie92 [2012-08-26 19:51:41 +0000 UTC]

Oh I am so glad! I hope to see some in the future. I am now watching you too!

Watermarks are great everywhere. It also makes you look more professional (or so I find). For example when you get proofs of photos- the photos are always watermarked.

I am always glad to help! Anytime! If you ever need help or resources or anything- feel free to send me a message.

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sm00chie92 In reply to Tylon [2012-08-27 09:18:58 +0000 UTC]

alright thanks a lot

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Raven30412 [2012-08-25 09:31:48 +0000 UTC]

Main issue is relationship between the symbol and the type. Composition is unbalanced, which is probably going to cause troubles in real-life use. The biggest problem is however the size of the type, and perhaps too much text. Even in the largest size here on dA, "graphic designer" is almost unreadable. Once you place it on a business card, letterhead or even a website in some normal size, even your name will be completelly unreadable. That's for technical issues, for aesthetical, as I said, the composition is quite unbalanced, "graphic designer", aside from it's size relationship, is aligned weirdly to the right which doesn't add anything positive to the design. Typeface has nothing to do with the symbol, it's like two different logos, which is never a good thing. The symbol itself, even though a little generic perhaps, may work on it's own (you may find out you'll need to make the gap between two parts a little larger because of small size prints though), but the type part needs to be redone from scratch IMHO.

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sm00chie92 In reply to Raven30412 [2012-08-25 10:08:05 +0000 UTC]

i love your honesty,
i could see there wasn't so much harmony between the symbol and the type but everytime i tried a 'heavy' type it was too monotonous combined with the 'heavy' symbol as well.
i understand it needs a different type. i am currently designing a business card with that symbol particularly and i'd be glad to hear again from you.

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Raven30412 In reply to sm00chie92 [2012-08-25 12:58:55 +0000 UTC]

It's not about combining heavy thing with heavy type, the visual and conceptual relationship is much more complex than just heavy-heavy/light-light. You're right that heavy weight would probably kill the design, but the question is more the typeface style itself. The symbol looks very strong and industrial to me, what would probably work is also "industrial", but light typeface. Hard to say which one, you can try some technical-type based stuff like FF DIN, hard to miss with that one. Any neutral grotesk or neo-grotesk like Helvetica or Univers would probably do the job, but it may not add anything extra and may look boring at the end. You can try something less common too, for example something from Radim Pesko ( [link] ) - but be carefull not to over-do it. Once you'll find the right typeface (and note that it will probably be the same typeface you'll use for headlines and similar stuff in your identity designs), you'll need to take care of the size and composition together with the symbol. It's ok to do even several lockups, but they need to be clear, readable, well-balanced. In every identity design, the most important question is the concept: what are you trying to say. If you'll clear about the concept, reminding it usually helps to find the best solution of each problem and keep the project "on track". Once the concept is unclear, it's hard not to get lost in all the seemingly small decisions and keep the design consistent and clear. Hope it makes some sense

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sm00chie92 In reply to Raven30412 [2012-08-25 13:06:21 +0000 UTC]

sure it makes sense i understand. i will try and play some more with the type fonts and thanks for naming some. i already tried some of them. i ended up with Gill Sans in my business card that i will upload these days. You will see the concept that i came up more clearly there. I liked the strong corners and heavy shape of the symbol i came up than any other since it may suggest something serious & structural or industrial as you said. but i will use it in bright, playful colours. In other words it will be trying to say 'My design work can be serious, but it can be flexible and fun as well'

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Raven30412 In reply to sm00chie92 [2012-08-25 22:15:37 +0000 UTC]

In that case, what might work well is to use the symbol as container for various pics, photos or even videos. That way you'd combine the industrial look with playfulness and creativity, and you'd make good use of the bold, heavy nature of it. It migh look really cool even oversized, taking large part of a website homepage, with a vid or slideshow going in... It's a bit trendy thing, but might work just right.

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sm00chie92 In reply to Raven30412 [2012-08-26 09:15:45 +0000 UTC]

that's an amazing idea
It is wonderful idea because my field of study involves Multimedia as well, so this would work lovely when I'm showing my personal identity in that way at the start or end of every multimedia project I work on. Or anything else.
I really hope that I start thinking like this in the future, it's something really crucial for our field. Thank you for shaping my point of view

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Raven30412 In reply to sm00chie92 [2012-08-26 22:23:55 +0000 UTC]

no problem, hope it's gonna work...

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Icyton [2012-08-25 09:28:47 +0000 UTC]

Looks very great! What do you think of my logo?

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sm00chie92 In reply to Icyton [2012-08-25 10:17:10 +0000 UTC]

which one exactly?

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Icyton In reply to sm00chie92 [2012-08-25 10:33:08 +0000 UTC]

My icon of course.

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sm00chie92 In reply to Icyton [2012-08-25 10:41:08 +0000 UTC]

it is an interesting shape, reminds me of semiotics (e.g the male sign we often see in the toilets).
Have you tried adding type?
it will look even more powerful if you find the suitable type & color

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Icyton In reply to sm00chie92 [2012-08-25 11:02:55 +0000 UTC]

It's an 'i' I made with only hexagons. I've used other colours before, but I found that these colours worked out great, but I will change them if I found a better combination.
Thanks for the review...

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sm00chie92 In reply to Icyton [2012-08-25 11:25:50 +0000 UTC]

i see it as an 'i'. i just explained that it also reminds me of a person (the dot is the head and the rest is the body). you don't need to change the colours you already have. i'm just saying add some type (letters) as well like your username 'Icyton' beneath your symbol and then try on that type the colours i was talking about. try some cyan or magenta hues.

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STRiPESandShades [2012-08-23 21:39:36 +0000 UTC]

Love the logo, very clean and interesting... and not to difficult to print!

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sm00chie92 In reply to STRiPESandShades [2012-08-23 22:22:16 +0000 UTC]

indeed,
thank you

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RoberthComan [2012-08-22 17:00:22 +0000 UTC]

try something keeping the "experiment style"...

clear and simple

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sm00chie92 In reply to RoberthComan [2012-08-22 19:11:50 +0000 UTC]

hm okay!
thanks for the suggestions, they're really helpful

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RoberthComan In reply to sm00chie92 [2012-08-22 20:16:07 +0000 UTC]

you're welcome, and I'm waiting for your new design!

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TheBlacklightX [2012-08-22 15:27:45 +0000 UTC]

Nice design !

Clean that is for sure. It's clean and still really great in the look.

If I had to choose which one is the best out of the 3 I would say the first one (black background)
As that design is strongest one.
Maybe you could make the name and slogan font different like make it with a light 3d effect having a light grey/white border and maybe change the slogan so that the font of the slogan is thinner than the name + (try slogan in italic)
Or maybe do the text with an depth effect so it looks like it got engraved in.

Everything is possible

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sm00chie92 In reply to TheBlacklightX [2012-08-22 15:35:03 +0000 UTC]

alrighty thanks,
I'll probably try one thing or two from your suggestions

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TheBlacklightX In reply to sm00chie92 [2012-08-22 15:46:49 +0000 UTC]

No problem ^^ I love to give feedback same as I love to get feedback for me it's a part of the design progress. And while doing changes through feedback I often get new ideas too so...its really good

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