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Published: 2007-03-22 14:30:18 +0000 UTC; Views: 10640; Favourites: 102; Downloads: 1232
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I was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome in middle school, around '96. At that time, it was a pretty largely unheard of disorder. As the comic states, it's a neurobiological disorder, a less severe form of autism that effects mostly social behaviors.At some point in the last few years, diagnosis of the disorder has exploded. Whereas I used to get puzzled looks when I mentioned it, I'm more likely to find scads of people diagnosed with it everywhere I go. While I've had the fortune of meeting many great people with it... my friends and the internet at large have not.
Not a week goes by without some Fandom Wank report featuring someone being a total and complete ass on a forum and then turning around to say WELL I HAVE ASPERGERS. Friends tell me often that they didn't even realize I had it until I casually mentioned it, because other people they've met with it are, to be blunt, insufferable jerks. It pisses me off more than a little.
I don't see the disorder as a scapegoat. I don't want people to feel they have to give me special treatment or forgive me for things they wouldn't forgive other people for. They did that to me in high school and you know what? It didn't help. What helped was learning to handle my own problems and facing the consequences like any 'normal' person would be expected to do. I don't think it's asking too much of others to attempt the same.
In short? Don't be an ass.
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i have a disorder (autism) myself and i can agree with this
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People kept treating me differently! I don't feel treated equally like other!
i want to be independent and happy. ;-;
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Indeed. It was that reason that I felt ashamed of my own Aspergers and didn't like telling it out in the open because of behavior like this.
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I agree, nobody should use Asperger's syndrome/autism (If they don't have it) as an excuse for being a jerk. It's just sick, and this also applies to mental illnesses (I know that Asperger's/autism is not a mental illness, but still). Now, I'm applying this to the people who don't have Asperger's syndrome (Or any neurobiological disorder on the autism spectrum). You may correct me if I misspell anything.
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Sorry for being random, don't want to sound mean, but even if they have it they shouldn't use it as an excuse for being mean or a jerk either. I know how it is to have a mental illness, it's not easy but it should never be a excuse for being mean.
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Agreed. The Autism Spectrum should never be an excuse for being a jerk.
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It's not a violent disorder, but I agree, I have it and don't use it as a crutch
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I actually do have Asperger's syndrome (as well as Dyspraxia and ADD), but I occasional call someone "neurotypical" when they get on my nerves. Should I stop doing it, or is it okay to do it if I legitimately do have Autism?
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I have Aspergers and yes, I say and do things I shouldn't have done, but it's not all the time. I know that some people can't control it, but it doesn't give them an excuse to be an ass. Especially if they don't even have it.
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Many autists cant controll theyre selves! I cant so this hurts me to see
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I get your point. But some people simply have no control over their aspergers.
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As any asperger would tell you: bullshit. It's a "development" disorder, not a personality disorder. Typical about it is that these people tend to learn things with a so-called "monofocus": when they are in the stage of learning communication and social skills, they tend to focus strictly on the verbal aspect. This has a double consequence: at one hand, verbal skills progress profoundly and at sometimes even at an incredible rate; yet at the other hand, non-verbal communication, reading subtext, putting things into context and all of the non-litteral social skills which we come to understand by non-verbal communication... are simply "missed". Yet, Apergers includes the possibility of using ones intelligence and character to come to understand these things later in life, although the "patient" will often be missing on to an "automatic pilot" in doing the socially acceptable thing due to that "late learning" (it's the same as with kids who only learn to speak from about age 10: they still can if they try and have the intelligence, but you'll always "notice" that there is something "incorrect" about their speech).
This however doesn't imply that they can't learn to come to the understanding of what is the socially acceptable thing if they try to. Aspergers does NOT include mental retardation. An aspie who really tries, can get far and can learn from experience. Unfortunately, many people these days like going for the "easy way out" by demanding others to adept to them without actually trying to put some effort in return.
For the record: the "obsessive" behaviour of many aspergers can also be associated with the formerly stated "monofocus" in which they focus so extremely on a specific part of their world that they forget about everything else.
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I'm aspie and I confirm your soliloguy
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I've been hearing that a few people have been trying to use Aspergers as an excuse for their behaviour or to get special benefits hence the government is trying to rule it out as not an actual issue. Now I'm not sure if that is Canadian, American, or global, but that's what I've heard.
I mean it hasn't been truly ruled out with me yet, but an aptitude test I took said that if I was to be found not to have aspergers I would have ADD/ADHD. Early in my life I had symptoms of it and O.D.D. (oppositional defiance disorder) I have my drawbacks about starting a conversation, appearing awkward, or just standing out in general. I definately don't use it as an excuse to stay the way I am or refuse change which I have seen some people do not only with aspergers, but other deficiencies as well. I have been working with support groups to better my social skills and many other things to get better which has thankfully made some progress.
I find this also funny because my dad also uses this term in a similar manner too XD
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Everyone on the boards I go to always says I have it
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(Warning: mini brutal rant ahead!)
As a fellow Aspie, I completely agree with the whole sentiment that people should stop placing the blame of their actions on a disorder. Weather it be to just get sympathy (pathetic trolls) or just to be popular. Most people on the Internet these days, to be brutally honest, have absolutely no clue about the stigma or the other hell that we're dragged through on a daily basis.
I really don't see 'NT' as a bad word, but that kind of depends upon weather it is misused or not (do I need to mention the r-word changing from a different way of saying slow to becoming an insult).
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I agree throwing out 'neurotypical' distances Aspies from everyone else. If anything it's a step backward form getting people to understand.
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You deserve this.
As a fellow Aspergerian.. You're full of WIN.
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Ha, the NT thing...
I saw someone write an asperger's/aspergia fanfiction and described one spy as being an "NT that had ADHD." They obviously think that NT = not having autism. They don't get that there are other disorders out there too. If I'm right I also am sure that having a brain tumor also makes you not neurotypical.
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I agree with you. I'm an aspie as well, and while I do have moments where I unintentionally offend others, they aren't often enough to have to keep saying 'BUT AHM AN ASPIE!!!1' over and over. If I'm being a jerk to someone, it's usually because it's completely intentional and without any need to blame it on any disorder. It's because I want them to hate me.
However, 'NT' isn't a bad term. Just like how 'allistic' refers to those not on the autism spectrum, 'cis' refers to those who are comfortable with their gender that was assigned to them at birth/aren't trans*, 'abeled' refers to those without any disabilities, etc. It isn't meant to be an offensive label, just a descriptive one, like how everything else has a label.
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i've gotten people like that than they say how rude i was to say how mean they were and complain about how i repeat things over and over if they had autism they would know that behavior is part of it and cruelty isn't (i'm PDD-NOS)
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I have AS even if I didn't know I had it sometimes I still feel like I'm smarter than some people. Maybe I actaully am smarter but I highly doubt it...
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You could place in any disorder instead of Asperger's and it would still be appropriate.
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i feel i may be guilty of this. i tried to make a joke about the difference in timezone (i live in NZ and was commenting on a website based in California) and the comments i got back where horrible, and because i did not really understand them, i kind of went off, and it kept getting worse. eventually i had to create a new account as someone else and had to apologise for my "sister's" behavouir.
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Ugh, I totally agree. I have AS/HFA and it just irks me that anyone would use it as an excuse to be an insufferable prick. If people wouldn't do it then there wouldn't be so much about it on Encylocpedia Dramatica. But I digress. I'm faving this. :)
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Yeah, my friend who claims to have it (I don't think he does because he's probably the most social person I've met) used it as an excuse in a test! What the hell? Only my closest friends now I have it. Well that was because a crack some bitch made in the middle of class.
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well, see, most of the legitimate problems aspies have are actually caused by neurotypicals screwing things up... like, i wouldn't freak out at loud noises if there weren't loud noises caused by neurotypicals... see?
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exactly! i always jump out of my chair when someone makes a loud noise at school, i've almost punched a kid once because the startled me when they slamed their text book down on their desk, and they sat right behind me too
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With stuff like that I'm ashamed to know I have asperger what's with so many user using it to take advantage to behave like a hissy bitch
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Now here we find an intelligent person. I applaud you for working through your Asperger's just like those of us with (if, in my case, just a mild case of it) it have to. I agree, it's not a scapegoat and it's not a crutch, so I applaud you for the comic and the author's description.
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Heh, I have Aspergers, and while I agree with you about the whole "Hating People who use Aspergers as an Excuse" thing, you have to realise that alot of those people who do so are genuinely clueless about what they've done wrong. One of the major things about people with Aspergers is that most of their social behaviors are something they have to learn manually rather than instinctively. This means that unless someone interacts with them in a way which teaches them these behaviors and which are acceptable, they are likely to remain clueless about what is acceptable, or even remain ignorant about what they've done wrong in the first place. After a while most of those who aren't taught these behaviors start going "I have Aspergers", first as a canned explanation and apology, and then after a while as a way to say "Either help me to figure out what I did wrong, drop the topic, or take your anger, shove it, and leave me the hell alone".
To summarise, if someone goes "I have Asperger's" when they're being a tool, offer to explain it to them and try to get it as simple as possible, and if you can't, try and get them someone who can.
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I hate that log-on thing.....
damn double post....
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Heh, I have Aspergers, and while I agree with you about the whole "Hating People who use Aspergers as an Excuse" thing, you have to realise that alot of those people who do so are genuinely clueless about what they've done wrong. One of the major things about people with Aspergers is that most of their social behaviors are something they have to learn manually rather than instinctively. This means that unless someone interacts with them in a way which teaches them these behaviors and which are acceptable, they are likely to remain clueless about what is acceptable, or even remain ignorant about what they've done wrong in the first place. After a while most of those who aren't taught these behaviors start going "I have Aspergers", first as a canned explanation and apology, and then after a while as a way to say "Either help me to figure out what I did wrong, drop the topic, or take your anger, shove it, and leave me the hell alone".
To summarise, if someone goes "I have Asperger's" when they're being a tool, offer to explain it to them and try to get it as simple as possible, and if you can't, try and get them someone who can.
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yeahhh, not good to pretend that having a neurobiological disorder makes it ok to be a tool. Melt down; break shit? Fix it.
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I want my ealier comment to be hidden / removed plz, (and this one) i don't want someone reading it 
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This makes me angry, very angry. Who on earth would even want Aspergers, I've had as long as i remember, i fit every (excuse my french) damn line in the book, not that i want to, i keep trying to change, but i simply can't i hear about tradgidies and simply can't see why it's all that sad, i move in patterns that i keep trying to destroy which just leads me into making other odd patterns of movement....im saying to much, in short, I don't like Aspergers, and am annoyed anyone would try to write them selves off as it, thats; "Being an Assburger" not "Having Aspergers."
-Good day, sorry if i offend anyone.
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sorry for this, i read you do not like people reading you stuff, but i could not help but wonder if you might be double gifted. by the sound of it, it seems that you are able to look at your behavouir, realise that is it different (and maybe wrong) and want to change it.
i am the same way, and hate some of the things i do, and just want to be able to change them
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AWW damn it, you mean i cant light fire to things and blame it on aspergers
You ruined all my fun
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