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Thrakki [2011-07-22 01:56:44 +0000 UTC]
That's gonna leave a mark!
Nice to see an occasional traditional work here...I'd mess up way too many times in a piece like this just using a pen, heh!
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Sol-Caninus In reply to Thrakki [2011-07-22 11:18:31 +0000 UTC]
Hehe. Thanks.
Traditional's all I do, for now. It's probably the same as digital as far as messing up! This still has a way too go.
Very hard to do a buffed warrior-type female. I missed the mark, here. It's all in the shoulder width, silhouette and facial expression. You can't render or define muscle.
Well, good luck with the Dragon Slayer chick.
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Thrakki In reply to Sol-Caninus [2011-07-23 03:22:11 +0000 UTC]
Welllll, digital just by its very nature is so much more forgiving than trying to do traditional work like you did here. Mess up a line with digital, and all you need to do is hit CTRL-Z to undo it all, no harm done.
Traditional work, using a pen? Might as well crumble up the paper and start over! Drawing the female figure is hard enough--drawing it in a way that it looks buff, muscled, yet still sexy is truly an art. It's a good part of the reason I just switched to doing 3D renders.
I think everything considered you did a pretty admirable job here.
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Sol-Caninus In reply to Thrakki [2011-07-23 13:09:43 +0000 UTC]
Well how can I argue with that? Thank you.
With respect to digital, I don't know anything. But traditional, pen and brush are completely different. Perhaps you should give the brush a whirl?
Brush takes longer to learn (for most) than pen. So it's a little more daunting. Neal Adams called it a "lazy instrument" - though I'm not sure if he meant to say it's for lazy people (who like to do a lot with a little), or it gives lazy-looking results. It can look clumsy and thick, but then pen can look scratchy, nervous and scrawny. It's the level of finesse one achieves, not the instrument, tha produces good or bad results. And then there is nothing to say that one cannot combine them! (I've just switched from doing everything in pen and touching up in brush, to doing everything in brush and touching up in pen.)
This is not to say anything bad about digital. Only that if you invest in the traditional instruments, you will make a tactile link to the visual line that will constitute an intuitive feel for execution. I think that gets harder to do (possibly impossible?) as one gets more cyber.
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Thrakki In reply to Sol-Caninus [2011-07-24 14:58:06 +0000 UTC]
I guess it all depends on the level of skill involved. I am constantly struck on this site by the quality of digital work on this site, some of which is indistinguishable from traditional work, at times. That said, there are many traditional artists out there too who show great aptitude for their medium. Ralph Horsely is a great example of this: [link]
Using a brush does sound interesting by the way, I don't think I ever used one to just produce something like a line drawing before. Most of my experience came from oil/acrylic/watercolor paintings, working the brushes over light line work. Of those, I would say oil is the most forgiving.
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Sol-Caninus In reply to Thrakki [2011-07-24 16:38:32 +0000 UTC]
This fellow Horsely is amazingly good. Thanks for the link.
If you decide to give brush a go, use a pointed round watercolor brush or a Sumi-e brush, but not a regular round. Remember, it's for drawing, so you need to be able to make a thin line. I use both naturals and synthetics. The synthetics hold their points much longer - they can take the wear and tear and are easier to clean (ink's a bitch). The naturals have superior spring and hold more ink.
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Thrakki In reply to Sol-Caninus [2011-07-25 01:47:13 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the advice! I might have to look into trying that at some point.
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ElectricGecko [2011-07-21 13:47:03 +0000 UTC]
Great sense of action and impact. I love it.
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Sol-Caninus In reply to ElectricGecko [2011-07-21 14:24:43 +0000 UTC]
Thank you very much!
I was working along the lines we discussed previously. Unfortunately, it did not produce a self-explanatory example. But I'm not complaining - just puzzled. What I'm aiming at will show in time - and you'll go "Oh! Is that all? Everybody knows that! I do it all the time." After all, you are an Archie fan and this idea of line-as-spot is very noticeable in Archie (the old ones). I think it is likely a key concept of some traditions of inking and ink-drawing. I need to research that, but who has the time?
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