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Published: 2019-04-02 20:15:13 +0000 UTC; Views: 1525; Favourites: 20; Downloads: 2
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Description Decided to post this to address something that rather annoys me.

Now, I don't love Brie Larson. And I definitely don't share her worldview (at least not in its entirety). But to completely write off a movie before it had even come out, and be fiercely and mindlessly against it out of a hatred of the actress, is a bit stupid to me. And it becomes grossly hypocritical too when I know that these people don't do this for most movies. The Lethal Weapon movies, Mad Max, and Braveheart are, last I checked, still popular and warmly regarded films, in spite of the fact that lead actor Mel Gibson has repeatedly gone on disgusting Anti-Semitic rants plus some racist ones on the side. It's happened so many times that his career hasn't exactly been in a good place for the last few years as a result of all the scandal.

And yet...people still love Braveheart, Lethal Weapon, and Mad Max. Why? Because they're well done action films. And no one wants to condemn or dismiss a movie just because one of the actors involves happens to be an asshole. What I find myself rather perplexed by, is why the same courtesy apparently cannot be given to Captain Marvel. That movie got a ridiculous amount of hatred before it had even RELEASED. And the hatred of Carol Danvers hasn't exactly disappeared since the film came out even though it did fairly well both critically and especially financially. Apparently, for the Alt-Righters, it's a more offensive sin to be an outspoken feminist then it is to be Anti-Semitic and racist. Hm...

Again, I don't share Brie Larson's worldview necessarily, and I DO have my problems with Captain Marvel, mostly in the laughably terrible explanation for how Nick Fury lost his eye and in how the movie could have done more with the relationship between Carol and Yon-Rogg. But having said that, I did LIKE the movie, and my problems with the movie don't really revolve around how Carol herself was portrayed. Nor do I believe in hating or writing off the character or the film just because the lead actress happens to be an ultra-feminist. And it annoys and disgusts me that I do not see the Alt-Righters applying these same standards to disgusting bigots like Mel Gibson, or frankly even James Woods. You can't say that James Woods is any less of a far-right caricature then Brie Larson is a far-left one, and yet we all still love Hades in Hercules. So there is a clear double standard here. Personally, I blame toxic masculinity; its OK to be an Anti-Semitic and racist monster if you play cool action heroes, but the moment you're an outspoken feminist, you're beyond the pale. What a load of horse shit. 

And, then there's this:

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Yeah, where to begin with that? For starters the fact that their "pasts" were actually shit they did AFTER most of their most well known works, and then their careers took nose dives afterwards, likely as a direct result of them being the complete assholes that they are. 

Then there's the fact that, when you consider that people of the very backgrounds Mel Gibson has attacked were probably among the fans of his movies, I don't see how insulting them based on their background is "respecting the fans". It's not "respecting the fans" to attack people based on their background or heritage. For example, I was a fan of Chicken Run (which co-stars Gibson), and I did not feel "respected" when I learned how much of a bigot he was. So how is that "respecting the fans"? If a writer at Marvel went on a misogynistic tirade, that would not be "respecting the fans", when many of said fans are women. 

And again, the whole point is moot, because most of his most beloved movies, where made BEFORE he got embroiled in scandal for his bigoted and toxic behavior. 

So to make a long story short, I think that the toxic, sexist trolls who bash Captain Marvel are full of shit to do it when they have no such attitude for movies involving other people who have done and said things no worse then anything Larson has said or done. And remember kids, actor=/=character. 

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ThirteenthHero579 [2023-11-08 20:35:43 +0000 UTC]

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Spider-Bat700 In reply to ThirteenthHero579 [2023-11-08 21:23:48 +0000 UTC]

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ThirteenthHero579 In reply to Spider-Bat700 [2023-11-16 19:53:16 +0000 UTC]

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ThePurgatorian [2021-05-02 04:50:23 +0000 UTC]

Being here heals my soul.

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Spider-Bat700 In reply to ThePurgatorian [2021-05-02 05:48:31 +0000 UTC]

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godzillavkk [2021-03-26 13:04:48 +0000 UTC]

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SuperMarioFan65 [2020-06-04 22:01:03 +0000 UTC]

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GBR3 [2020-06-01 00:47:54 +0000 UTC]

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Spider-Bat700 In reply to GBR3 [2020-06-01 00:59:33 +0000 UTC]

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kn83 [2019-04-21 01:35:14 +0000 UTC]

To me, the Alt-Right & and the SJW-Left are 2 sides of the same coin. Both are delusional hate movements based on resentment and a denial of objective reality.

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Spider-Bat700 In reply to kn83 [2019-04-21 01:51:56 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, pretty much. It's why I loathe both the far-right and the far-left in the current culture war. Pure toxicity (and stupidity).

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Smoking-Wrecker2814 [2019-04-13 01:59:09 +0000 UTC]

I couldn't agree more.

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ElvenRaptor [2019-04-03 05:14:17 +0000 UTC]

Well said. In every regard. I have nothing to add. The hate from insane sexists and DC who saw an convenient target is just sickening. 8 years from now, when they start making retrospectives about female led superhero films (2027, ten years from when Wonder Woman came out), I'm sure a BUNCH of critics and analysists will make special mention of the inane Captain Marvel "controversy". Heck, many of them will probably dedicate an entire video to calling these pigs out. The wait will be worth it.

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LaundrySoapman In reply to ElvenRaptor [2020-01-18 18:54:15 +0000 UTC]

She's a white feminist. That's why.

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Spider-Bat700 In reply to LaundrySoapman [2020-05-31 06:22:36 +0000 UTC]

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Spider-Bat700 In reply to ElvenRaptor [2019-04-03 05:18:44 +0000 UTC]

I don't think DC is at fault here. I think the fault lies solely with folks who loathe Brie Larson and/or Carol Danvers in general. 

Again, I don't subscribe to radical feminism anymore then I do toxic masculinity, but if we're not going to renounce Mel Gibson movies, we shouldn't renounce Captain Marvel. However one feels about extreme/radical feminism, Anti-Semitism is the greater sin.

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matthew-lane In reply to Spider-Bat700 [2019-07-09 13:24:15 +0000 UTC]

Hidden by Owner

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Spider-Bat700 In reply to matthew-lane [2019-07-09 16:23:52 +0000 UTC]

*Sigh*.

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ElvenRaptor In reply to Spider-Bat700 [2019-04-03 05:30:29 +0000 UTC]

Not DC, themselves. Just DC FANS who saw an opportunity to hop on another Anti-MCU freight train. Believe me, a lot of the arguments against Captain Marvel are word-for-word exactly like the ones I've been hearing from the MCU's detractors for about a decade now. Trust me, it is a lot of the same people. And yes, they'll be sexist is that's what it takes to help bring the MCU down a notch. I've seen these people go full-racist, even, when the time came to hate on "Black Panther." 

I agree. Gibson's comments should not have been tolerated as much as they were. Brie Larson's statements about feminism were unwise and untactful, but hardly anything we haven't heard from Hollywood a million times before. She was just a convenient target for radical Alt Right trolls and MCU haters to jump on.
And I'm not saying all Republicans and Conservatives are a part of it. Just the radical extreme ones. I'm a Right Leaner myself and this anti-Captain Marvel crap is just... crap.

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Spider-Bat700 [2019-04-02 20:16:53 +0000 UTC]

masterofhorr

Thoughts? I've been meaning to do this one for a while. The sexism/toxic masculinity-fueled Captain Marvel bashing is pretty sickening to me, so I figured it was high time I call out the hypocrisy of it. 

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masterofhorr In reply to Spider-Bat700 [2019-04-03 20:55:25 +0000 UTC]

I agree with what you are saying

That being said, that sta.sh Link where the person claimed that Captain Marvel’s actor became the character is kinnd of wrong. Nothing in the MCU’s portrayal of Carol Danvers really shows the actor transforming the character into a voice-piece of her own ideology. The left-wing aspects of the movie seem to be purely a result of Marvel’s writing And Carol just seems to be a result of that 2010’s-influenced world.

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Spider-Bat700 In reply to masterofhorr [2019-04-03 21:30:24 +0000 UTC]

Agreed. I mean, I don't envision Brie Larson as a taciturn, amnesiac soldier trying to figure out who she is while also lacking much in the way of social skills.

Besides that, I don't think the movie was aggressively feminist at all. Yes, there's the scene where Carol blasts a monitor playing a memory of hers where a sexist jerk makes a "cockpit" joke to her face, but that's one little moment in the film. And besides that, the idea that a woman in the Air Force would face sexism in the 70s and 80s makes perfect logical sense. I don't think that's heavy-handed or grotesque feminist writing on Marvel's part at all. 

I guess one could mention her blasting the "True Lies" standee, but actually, the screenwriter hadn't wanted that scene in there; it was supposed to be of The Mask, and Carol mistaking it for a Skrull. 

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