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Published: 2005-06-11 22:01:54 +0000 UTC; Views: 15689; Favourites: 32; Downloads: 5971
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Exeed Litestep (MOD) V3 (Final I Hope)--
Added Color Options ( Black / White )
Added Font Options ( Kroeger / Cure / Hooge )
Added Font Color Options ( White / Black / Green / Yellow / Blue / Red )
Added Label Toggle Options ( On / Off )
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Messed With - Resolution Values And As Far As I Know It Works On ( 800x600 / 1024x768 / 1280x1024 ) And Maybe Others But My Monitor Cant Go Higher
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Thanks To Xcal And All The LS Guys Helping Me Out !!!
* Visual Style : [link] or [link]
* LiteStep : [link] or [link]
* Samurize : [link] or [link]
* Winamp : [link] or [link]
* Quick Notes : [link]
* ColorPad : [link]
* Rainmeter : [link]
* Rainlendar : [link]
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Comments: 29
you guys have the same avatar. Are you in a "Skinning Gang" ?. Is it your "Gang Patch"? . can i join
ps: Still a shit theme
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You cant join our group but i hear the "pink helmet girly men" are looking for new people.. hey look you already have the same skinning gang patch that they use, go figure are you the captain of that team?
LOSER!
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hahahah... Nice one. I liked the "pink helmet girly men" part. 
and its weird cause I was just in the process of changing my avatar too...
/me scrubs the "girly" pink off my shiny new avatar, I mean "MANLY SNAKE AVATAR OF DOOM". lol
its funny when people take your harsh criticism seriously xcal. (keep it up lol)
Im off to go play with my dolls and rub my titties
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Yeah.. you scrub that avatar good! You could have at least done a decent job on it instead of the filter magic or whatever it was you used to create that pink beast monster. But then again it looks like a dude with a condom on his head... like umm a "DICKHEAD"
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yeah thats more like it, now your getting into gear!!! DICKHEAD lol
ps: visionleague ? You [b]are[/b] in a gang
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Yup thats us, a gang of artist..
Homepage: [link]
Temp Gallery: [link]
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you guys have some really tasty stuff in you gallery. Yummy yum.
ps: Like my new avatar? Not to condomy for you?
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quit being a chump thaltos. It's black like tilt does that make it ripoff? no it does'nt.. hey i'm black am i a ripoff of tilt too? you retard get a life and leave the man alone.
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Actually, what makes it a tilt ripoff, aside from the looks and layout, is that the original release was about 95% code directly copied and pasted from tilt. When static was called on that (aka was caught), he pulled both releases (here and custo), moved the definitions around a bit, added ; comments, changed a module, and rereleased it, still with no credit to Aero.
Now, this was a dead issue until you just brought it up again. I wasn't planning to make anymore comments on this theme, or future releases of it. I'd recommend you let it die again, and don't push the issue.
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no disrespect to aero on his work BUT the design for tilt is very simple, anyone who knows thier way around ms paint can figure out how to re create the graphics and and how many black themes are there??? can we say a whole lot. As we all know litestep code is freely available so whats your problem? Why are you harrassing the man? What's your malfunction that you cant figure out that it's not a rip. Are you seriously that thick skulled that you cant see that it looks nothing like tilt???? wake the hell up guy. Quit your crying and worry about making the quality of your works better, dont worry about other people. Who do you think you are? The litestep saviour?
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For some reason you keep talking about graphics, when I never once have. As I've stated repeatedly, it was the original code that was copied and pasted from Tilt. It was, infact, a ripoff. That's great that you're defending your VS friend, but you're doing it blindly, because you clearly have never done a side by side comparison of the original Exeed and Tilt's code - I have. If you had, you'd know I'm right. I'm not harassing him. I made a comment, he made a comment, I replied, and it was done. You're the one who has brought this up again. If you want this to become a non-topic, I'd suggest leaving it alone. If this keeps becoming an issue, where you're bringing up doubt in what I'm saying, I will take the 2 minutes it would require to post a side-by-side comparison of the code between the two themes. That's something Static doesn't want, and if you're his friend, you don't want that either. My preference is to not revist this again, so let it go.
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Hey smartguy... you cant plagiarize readily available, public domain code, GPL protected code! Aero does'nt own the code litestep nor the models and commands used for tilt.. he owns the graphics used for tilt. The code can be re used over and over and over again its under the GPL. Go ahead and waste your time with side by side comparisons you are trying to fight a losing battle that you know you cant win. Read here [link] and read here [link]
It explains the gpl in a nutshell. GET A LIFE ALREADY!
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Again, just like in your last message, you're bringing up things I never said. I'm not talking about copyright laws, and I never once said there was a copyright infringement. Infact, if you had taken a moment to actually read my comments, I had already pointed out that litestep code can't be copyrighted, and it's images that are. So again, you really don't seem to know what you're talking about.
Look, I can tell you're a young guy (no offense intended by that... we were all young once), and you're passionate about this, but your aggressions are misguided, and your arguments against me are based on falsehoods that you've created yourself - this is twice now you've messaged me trying to make a point against something I never said.
I think you need to let this go.
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LOL, you must have read the GPL.. good job now you understand why it's not a rip. With that said as long as you stop calling his work a rip I'd be more than happy to let it go.
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Huh? Are you even reading what I'm saying? I always knew it wasn't copyright infringement. I said that right in my comments to Static, long before you ever messaged me. Static originally (and literally) copied and pasted Tilt's code/files, altered the amp, replaced the images, and released it as his own theme. Just because it's not "illegal" doesn't mean it's not a rip off. He should have given a nod to Aero, which he didn't.
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Give him a nod for what? If anything the only person that really deserves a nod is the original LS coder. Using codes and modules that were readily available does not make you privy to a noteable mention. Who did you give credit to for the codes and modules used in your themes? I told you that Im not going to back down on this because you are making a great deal out of nothing. He used code that was freely available.. We can keep going on and on and on but eventually you need to realize that you are wrong for calling his work a rip off.
Had the code aero used been all of his own doing or if static used any of aero's graphics then I could understand your argument, but right now you dont have a leg to stand on. In essence what you are saying is the old microsoft should give apple credit for creating the gui and apple should give credit to xerox for coming up with the concept and a working model of the gui.
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I'll address your second "point" first. It doesn't apply here, it's not comparable, so I'm just going to disregard it.
Now, back to the topic. The more and more you try and reason away what was originally done, the more and more I'm thinking that you don't actually use Litestep, and more importantly, have never created a theme. I'm going to say this, and hopefully it will sink in, because so far, you haven't been getting it. Writing your definitions is actually part of the creative process. The images are just visual representations of the code itself. Litestep IS NOT primarily a skinning application. Never has been, never will be. The skinning part takes a backseat to the the actual theme's functionality - which is created by the themer through the code. With Litestep, the definitions ARE THE THEME. You're talking to someone who has spent endless hours creating, writing, and tweaking code, to represent a UI. Take a look at my last theme, BarNSeek. Whether you like it or not isn't important. Download it, and open the *.rc files in the config folder. Read all those lines. Pay close attention to the logic in the script.rc that would make many of the creators posting at custo scratch their collective heads in wonder. While Tilt/Exeed isn't nearly as complicated, we can extrapolate it to be the same. So, with that in mind, are you trying to tell me that the 1558 lines (with spaces) of code that I wrote myself, by hand, is just "readily available." If someone were to copy and paste all of my hard work, changed only the images, and released it again, you'd think that's just a fine thing to do, and there should be no ethical ramifictations? If you answer "yes" to that, then in all honesty, you're a bigger idiot than I initially believed. That's essentially what Static originally did.
Thankfully, you're not part of the Litestep community, because you'd never make it. Static, on the other hand, he took the lumps he had coming from what he originally did, he's learned from the mistake, and is better for it. With his latest update to Exeed LS, he's gained my respect, and I'm actually helping him with some coding as we speak! Static has far more character than you, and by representing him in our discussion, you are doing him a great disservice.
Lastly, it's important to keep in mind that I'm not alone in thinking this. Far from it. I'm just the most vocal. I've had a number of people sending me messages of agreement. Aero even messaged me.
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Are you that dense? for 1. I could give a crap about how many hours you spend re arranging code you find online. 2. I have working knowledge on how LS works! You telling me how many lines of code you have in your scripts is even more ridiculous because none of that comes originally from you and you wont win any cool points from me for that.
In case you dont understand what im saying let me bold it for you.
NONE OF THE CODE YOU ARE USING IS YOUR OWN, YOU DID NOT CREATE IT! The only thing you did was create mediocre graphics, and nicely arrange the LS code!! Get over yourself already.
IN A WHINEY, WHIMPERING, GIRLISH VOICE.. THALTOS SAYS: Don't you see how important I am? im not alone!!! how dare you stand up to me!! I've recieved letters from Aero and others.. I'm important dont you see!!! I'm even helping static as we speak.. blah blah blah.
I only expect to hear "I'm rubber and you're glue" come from you next..
Go outside and get some air before your asthma starts acting up. Sniveling LOSER you are, get the hell outta here with that corny shit.
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Having a working knowledge of Litestep means nothing. I have a working knowledge of televisions, but I still couldn't build one.
Lets be clear. I never said the code belonged to me. This is now the third time you're trying to make a point against something I never said. Again, you're basing points on fabrications that you've created yourself.
I'm not sure if you actually understand the extent of what you're trying to say. For example, you realize that the software on your computer was created by programmers, but those programmers didn't actually create the language/code/definitions they used? They didn't create the actual code itself, but they did create their product.
It's the same thing with Litestep. The creation process is writing the definitions/scripts. There is a lot of thought and logic involved. Graphics are generally a secondary process.
Ok, now here's how we're going to play the rest of this. Judging by your last message, I can tell that you are no longer able to carry on a mature discussion about this topic (I'm used to dealing with angry teens, but you, I don't have to deal with). You're either realizing you're wrong, or are running out of valid arguments, and therefore are resorting to childish tactics. I'm done with you. You either can't understand, or choose not to.
All further messages that I see from you will remain unread, and/or deleted. Like I said, you can no longer carry a mature discussion, and I'm not going to try and decypher your childish outburts, just to try and find a glimmer of something valid you might have to say. You're self defeating. You're going to find that when you get older, it's not a good trait to have.
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Thaltos is funny how you want to run and whimper away after getting a dose of your own medicine.. Me being someone who you know nothing about coming along and pestering you for seemingly no reason at all. Thats the way static felt when you decided to call him a ripper. Deal with it guy, I'm on your ass like dirty underwear until you decide to shut up. I hope you can decypher that!
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Comments unread, and ignored. The discussion is over.
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no disrespect to aero on his work BUT the design for tilt is very simple, anyone who knows thier way around ms paint can figure out how to re create the graphics and and how many black themes are there??? can we say a whole lot. As we all know litestep code is freely available so whats your problem? Why are you harrassing the man? What's your malfunction that you cant figure out that it's not a rip. Are you seriously that thick skulled that you cant see that it looks nothing like tilt???? wake the hell up guy.
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Actually, what makes it a tilt ripoff, aside from the looks and layout, is that the original release was about 95% code directly copied and pasted from tilt. When static was called on that (aka was caught), he pulled both releases (here and custo), moved the definitions around a bit, added ; comments, changed a module, and rereleased it, still with no credit to Aero.
Now, this was a dead issue until you just brought it up again. I wasn't planning to make anymore comments on this theme, or future releases of it. I'd recommend you let it die again, and don't push the issue.
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Seeing how this theme was originally a Tilt ripoff, I have to say I'm disappointed to see it reappearing. (Note: I'm not being slanderous. I can provide concrete proof of my previous statements, if required).
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Xcal .. Whats With You Man .. Just A Theme And Chill The Fuck Out Man
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Who knows, you could be stealing from me next, or anyone else, so I'm a little concerned. If you want to restore your credibility, release your own theme.
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Umm Stealing .. Does LS Code Belong To You .. I Think Not
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There's nothing wrong with examining someone else's theme to see how they did something that you may want to incorperate in to your own theme. There's nothing wrong with even copying a snippet of their code for the sake of ease. There IS something wrong with copying an entire theme, making a couple minor changes, and releasing it without giving credit to the original owner, and then calling it yours. I know images are copyrighted, and I'm 99.99% sure you can't copyright Litestep code, so I guess you're right... stealing may be the wrong word, but it sure seems to fit. You were even asked point blank at custo about your theme's association with Tilt, and categorically denied it (read: lied). That was your biggest mistake. There was a theme released not too long ago which was basically a reskinning of Austerity with some other changes, but the themer opened by saying " This is my first theme, based heavily on austerity, by Omar Hussain." And you know what? It was well received, and he didn't get a single flame over it. You on the other hand denied it right out of the gate, and not once gave credit where credit was due. Like I said, that was your biggest mistake.
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