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StevieStitches — Billy Crudup's Dr. Manhattan - Cavill's Superman

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Description This is a collage comparison I made. Henry Cavill's Superman is more like Billy Crudup's Dr. Manhattan, as a dangerously destructive grim temperamental demigod, and with a look sort of similar to Billy Crudup's Dr. Manhattan with the heat vision glowing eyes and grim demeanor, and Matthew Goode's Ozymandias also in a sense, with no mask, sculpted suit, etc., from Zack Snyder's Watchmen (2009), than Superman. Zack Snyder almost even cast Matthew Goode as Snyder's Superman reboot. wegotthiscovered.com/movies/ma…

Seriously Zack Snyder even said, “Watchmen, in a weird way, is Justice League anyway. It’s sort of coming to Justice League and understanding what it would be in the Watchmen universe." hiddenremote.com/2016/02/08/is…

Zack Snyder said about Dr. Manhattan, "That’s Superman gone bad. If Superman grabbed your arm and pulled really hard, he’d pull your arm out of your socket. That’s the thing you don’t see in a Superman movie. But in Watchmen, what you get is, like, 'I’m a Superman, and I really want to help mankind — but I just tore this guy in half by accident. People call me a superhero, but I don’t even know what that means. I just blew this guy to bits! That’s heroic?'"
ew.com/article/2008/07/17/watc…

Zack Snyder even said Man of Steel (2013), etc. is from a Watchmen philosophical sort if thing, "I’ve always said when I was working on Watchmen — and maybe it’s sort of left over from a Watchmen philosophical sort of thing — that there should be consequences to superheroes’ interaction with the Earth. And that was kind of the way that we approached Man Of Steel. I wanted a big consequence to Superman’s arrival on Earth."
www.cinemablend.com/new/Why-Za…

This quote from Man of Steel script writer David Goyer is very telling, "In the case of Blade, he is acting heroically, but the rest of the world thinks he’s a vigilante, as is the case with Batman. I don’t think I’d ever be good to write Superman because it is the opposite…" [The interviewer says, "He's angst free."] David Goyer says, "Yeah, and I wouldn’t know the angle because I’m so angst ridden, so I wouldn’t know what to do with a character like that." 
www.slashfilm.com/david-goyer-…

Goyer explained in his introduction to Geoff Johns' Superman Secret Origin (2010) comic book reboot of Superman's origin that he found some of the angst that he was looking for. "In which young Clark is told the truth about his heritage. He races out into the night, sobbing, stumbling through the cornfields. Eventually, his foster father, Jonathan, finds him. 'I don’t want to be someone else,' says Clark. 'I don’t want to be different. I want to be Clark Kent. I want to be your son.'" David Goyer says, "Right there in that moment, Geoff contextualized Superman in a way that I’m not sure has ever really been done before. I had an ‘aha’ experience when I read that. For the first time I was able to grasp how lonely Clark must have been when he was growing up. And what a sacrifice Clark must continually make by being Superman. As I write this, I am midway through my first draft of a new Superman screenplay. It’s a task that has stymied many talented filmmakers in the years since Donner’s film. And for all I know, it will end up stymieing me as well. But I’ve got one advantage that the screenwriters who came before me didn’t have– and that’s access to all the wonderful Superman stories written by Geoff Johns– first and foremost being the Secret Origin issues." 
www.slashfilm.com/david-goyers…
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patrickthenobleman [2018-02-06 18:37:35 +0000 UTC]

And now in the actual comics, Superman and Doctor Manhattan are heading for a clash in 'Doomsday Clock' written by Geoff Johns.

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StevieStitches In reply to patrickthenobleman [2018-02-07 19:55:53 +0000 UTC]

Hmm. Interesting. Which Superman? The "Rebirth" one I guess, that seems like a hybrid of Dean Cain's Superman - married to Lois, and Brandon Routh's Superman - having a son, and wearing a Henry Cavill Superman style suit.  

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patrickthenobleman In reply to StevieStitches [2018-02-07 21:40:37 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, he's actually the pre-Flashpoint Superman who took the place of the New 52 Superman after he died.

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StevieStitches In reply to patrickthenobleman [2018-02-09 04:27:11 +0000 UTC]

I'm confused and curious about what is the current comics origin in vogue at DC of that pre-Flashpoint Rebirth Superman? Is all of the post-Crisis 1986 The Man of Steel to pre-Flashpoint 2011 Grounded arc Superman comics history restored? Is it back to The Man of Steel (1986) rebooted version of the origin by John Byrne? Or is it that Secret Origin (2009) rebooted version by Geoff Johns? Or did they reboot the current Superman origin again to something newer? 

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patrickthenobleman In reply to StevieStitches [2018-02-09 04:50:09 +0000 UTC]

In the end does it all really matter how a character began?

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StevieStitches In reply to patrickthenobleman [2018-02-09 05:36:06 +0000 UTC]

It should matter. The history, and upbringing of a person defines who they are. Childhood experiences shape adult personalities and life. 

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patrickthenobleman In reply to StevieStitches [2018-02-09 05:39:10 +0000 UTC]

Relax friend, remember they're all fictional in this regard.
It's just the pre-Flashpoint Superman, married to Lois Lane, father to the new Superboy Jon Kent.

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StevieStitches In reply to patrickthenobleman [2018-02-09 06:03:17 +0000 UTC]

Well, I think of Clark Kent, Bruce Wayne, Diana, etc. as I would as if they were real people.

When I think of Clark I think of his upbringing on the Kent farm, and his journey to Metropolis and the Daily Planet roaming reporter job, his apartment, all that stuff.

When I think of Bruce I think of Gotham City, Wayne manor, his parents murder, his oath, his cave, etc. all that stuff.

Diana, I think of her Island, her Amazon upbringing, and her journey to our world with Steve Trevor in Washington D.C.

Which is his current origin? Was he Superboy? The Byrne version of the back story was very different from the Johns version. I think DC should clear that up if they haven't. This is why I don't read the current comics with all the long arcs and reboots. I enjoy the Golden Age era '40s Superman by Siegel in reprints. They are easily accessible and get right to the heart and fun of the character. 

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patrickthenobleman In reply to StevieStitches [2018-02-09 06:17:51 +0000 UTC]

I just accept everything, conflicting origins and all.
It makes things more interesting to me. 

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StevieStitches In reply to patrickthenobleman [2018-02-09 06:28:58 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I find it interesting to compare them and I think it would be fun if the various Superman versions were to meet each other. I just like to know which backstory, power set, etc. the current comics one has. It's easier to know this stuff with the movie and TV versions between Reeves, Reeve, Cain, Cavill, etc. 

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