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StormPetral0509 In reply to perubirder [2010-01-10 02:42:39 +0000 UTC]

Thanks did you know that recently, some of the tanagers were reclassified as belonging to the Cardinal family?

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perubirder In reply to StormPetral0509 [2010-01-10 18:45:37 +0000 UTC]

No, I don't really keep up to date on many changes. I hear about too many that 'might be reclassified' and kind of prefer to live in ignorance until 'they' have decided

Anyhow, I'd still take a look if you have a link?

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StormPetral0509 In reply to perubirder [2010-01-11 01:39:10 +0000 UTC]

Hahaha, I understand that.

and while I could look up the articles about the reclassification, I find that Wikipedia summarizes quite nicely which groups have changed. [link]

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perubirder In reply to StormPetral0509 [2010-01-11 19:35:07 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. Ah f..., as long as they don't change the names so I can id what I find, I'll be happy.

Have you noticed how many different names there are in Spanish for some species? (I think I've occasionally used different ones for same species on here too).

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StormPetral0509 In reply to perubirder [2010-01-11 19:38:50 +0000 UTC]

Haha, yep. There's also the matter of my ornithological societies disagreeing with those in South America, and the arbitrary choices made in some field guides on which society's classifications to follow. I had some trouble with the Pale-mandibled Aracari a little while back.

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perubirder In reply to StormPetral0509 [2010-01-11 20:27:18 +0000 UTC]

No surprise there (disagreement)

Great example: [excellent ornitholigist] Tito Narosky's guide to the birds of Buenos Aires - best guide you can get for the area, except for the names. The names are all local Argentine ones (although some are same elsewhere), and quite a few Latin / English names are incorrect (close, but a nightmare finding correct on a couple)

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StormPetral0509 In reply to perubirder [2010-01-12 03:48:16 +0000 UTC]

Oh man, that would be horrid to sort out later... especially with how I log my birds!

Do you know about the site ebird.org? It's how I track all of my sitings and share my data with other regional birders.

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perubirder In reply to StormPetral0509 [2010-01-13 03:47:12 +0000 UTC]

I know of the site, but don't actually track them anywhere other than in my brain (yeah, that'll eventually cause it's own problems I know!). The wife logs trip-lists on Birdstack while I stick to the stress of getting the right id

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StormPetral0509 In reply to perubirder [2010-01-14 18:35:59 +0000 UTC]

I might have to try Birdstack, it looked like an interesting program (and it is partnered with eBird, I found out)

I tried going birding today and was overwhelmed by trying to separate and id the gulls

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perubirder In reply to StormPetral0509 [2010-01-14 21:19:04 +0000 UTC]

The owner/creator (I hope that's right...) seems to be a guy called David, and he was very helpful when my wife sent some queries on bird names a week or two ago. (which again goes back to local names)

Seabirds are my least favourites of the avian world, can't really say why - colours, id-ing, getting close for a pic, etc..?

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StormPetral0509 In reply to perubirder [2010-01-14 21:23:12 +0000 UTC]

All of the above, and I quite agree with all of those issues... though I have a fondness for terns and many other seabirds, aside from the grief they give me ID'ing them

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perubirder In reply to StormPetral0509 [2010-01-15 03:23:42 +0000 UTC]

I admit I like the Inca Tern and also the Royal Tern's pose (pointy!)

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StormPetral0509 In reply to perubirder [2010-01-15 03:28:42 +0000 UTC]

Pointy indeed! Though I've never heard it put that way before

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perubirder In reply to StormPetral0509 [2010-01-15 03:40:35 +0000 UTC]

I think I thought that way before I was really interested in birds. Then, sometimes nicknames are quicker/easier than real names (which is why Southern Beardless-tyrannulet became "Punk" as I also named my photos of them )

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StormPetral0509 In reply to perubirder [2010-01-15 15:06:18 +0000 UTC]

I understand that though it's the opposite for me, the nicknames have come from hanging around other birders for too long... Modo, C-Goose, LBB (mourning dove, canada goose, little brown bird )

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perubirder In reply to StormPetral0509 [2010-01-15 19:52:29 +0000 UTC]

I've heard the LBB one before from US bird-bloggers saying it. Not met many birders in person, so we corrupted ourselves

A few years ago, while living in Buenos Aires and when we visited Uruguay, we named an unseen bird "Eeeek" after it's piercing call - we thought it was one of the seabirds for almost a year, but it was a Great Kiskadee

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StormPetral0509 In reply to perubirder [2010-01-16 21:50:39 +0000 UTC]

wow! The elusive Eeeek bird

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