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aatcXtreme [2010-05-13 01:43:44 +0000 UTC]
So basically, if there's any chance of your views offending someone, you shouldn't say them? Some of the most influential people in history (George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, Winston Churchill, Martin Luther King, Ronald Reagan to name a few) had ideas which were considered "offensive" and were upsetting to many people. Should these people have never spoken their mind at the risk of offending someone?
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sugarpoultry In reply to aatcXtreme [2010-05-13 02:34:26 +0000 UTC]
Don't take this stamp so seriously... LOL
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MarikBentusi [2009-12-21 15:00:31 +0000 UTC]
I think one needs to do both things: Compliment and criticize (in general). But sometimes it can be hard to keep those two in balance.
I hope your (nice) stamp doesn't support people shutting their ears for everyone who doesn't boost their ego.
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sugarpoultry In reply to MarikBentusi [2009-12-21 17:20:20 +0000 UTC]
No, but telling someone critique needs to be a way to motivate them to be better. That's the only way critique should work in my opinion, if not, the person is just a troll insulting those who are less fortunate and talented. And that's something that won't help them.
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MarikBentusi In reply to sugarpoultry [2009-12-21 17:23:09 +0000 UTC]
I believe this flavor is called constructive criticism. I think there are more gray-scales between constructive criticism and insulting, but I'm splitting hairs...
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sugarpoultry In reply to MarikBentusi [2009-12-21 17:36:18 +0000 UTC]
Yes, well, I'm a kind person, and there is no reason to EVER be negative except to give yourself self-gratification and an ego boost.
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MarikBentusi In reply to sugarpoultry [2009-12-21 18:12:36 +0000 UTC]
That kind of kindness may lead into even greater despair than criticism. Imagine a person with huge goals but little skills (for now). If you don't make clear their art isn't as good as they think it is (maybe that's not even due to a big ego. Maybe it's because of other friends or parents overly proud because of every little thing their children do), it can be very hard (and heart-breaking) for that person to experience a reality alignment. When they join a contest and expect to be high-ranked. When they want expect to get a certain job. Something like that.
tl;dr:
Just saying, sometimes sugar-coating can make a person weaker or more vulnerable than they are.
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sugarpoultry In reply to MarikBentusi [2009-12-21 18:23:36 +0000 UTC]
Well yeah you need to let them know where they are by telling them where they need to be. There is no reason putting them down. Totally sugar-coating it is also dangerous, but a strong motivation, is something beneficial. And EVERYONE can do that without putting down their skills. It IS possible, people are just too dang lazy, and its sad.
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MarikBentusi In reply to sugarpoultry [2009-12-21 18:50:46 +0000 UTC]
Sometimes. Sometimes you're sitting in a wheelchair and dream of kicking a football into outer space...
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sugarpoultry In reply to MarikBentusi [2009-12-21 19:14:26 +0000 UTC]
LOL Everybody can have a shot at art. It might take longer for others to practice, but its possible. And anyone giving critique can tell if someone has a shot. But rubbing it in to that wheelchair persons face saying 'you can't', is wrong. Even you should know that.
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MarikBentusi In reply to sugarpoultry [2009-12-21 19:17:22 +0000 UTC]
Oh, sorry, I wasn't talking about art only. Also, I didn't say anything about rubbing something into people's faced, not at all, where did you read that in my post? O_o
There are dreams you can and can't accomplish. That's what I wanted to express, nothing more, nothing less.
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sugarpoultry In reply to MarikBentusi [2009-12-21 19:24:16 +0000 UTC]
Well, I'm not sure how this discussion got on to non-art. I thought it was.
And anyways dreams and stuff isn't exactly the point of the stamp either. You are going a little too far out there for a very simple principle. Don't take it too far out of context.
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Earthpatriot117 [2009-09-20 20:03:44 +0000 UTC]
I believe in that very Strongly!
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allisongrl [2009-09-19 04:32:05 +0000 UTC]
I agree completely.
Thank you for making this m'dear.
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NegiOfRavenholm [2009-09-19 02:20:59 +0000 UTC]
In our class, we say "If you have nothing nice to say, say it to Jake."
So mean D:
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SaitoNetwork [2009-09-18 22:12:03 +0000 UTC]
THAT IS SO TRUE *instant fave* THANK YOU FOR POSTING!!
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Kajm [2009-09-18 20:30:42 +0000 UTC]
DA should give us the ability to Affix this stamp to certain people's accounts....
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vesner [2009-09-18 20:18:52 +0000 UTC]
Trolls are one thing (you just mustn't feed them), but speaking your opinion is another. If a friend tells me that my last work was crap I just ask why and try to learn from it. EVERY opinion counts. Especially the bad ones.
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sugarpoultry In reply to vesner [2009-09-18 20:23:16 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, but this isn't about critiques. I do better with those, course there is a line to be drawn.
I'm talking about every day things like politics, music, movies, etc.
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vesner In reply to sugarpoultry [2009-09-18 22:41:07 +0000 UTC]
Well, but someone can consider anything to be good or bad. I know I'm going to give an extreme and a bit abstract example, but should people stop talking about racism/war/paedophilia if they have nothing good to tell? Should one be silent if he or she doesn't like a decision made by a politician? Or even burst with a spontaneous 'oh gods, not that howling squirrel again!' when hearing lady gaga (or whoever is popular nowadays) on the radio?
Hearing negative opinions is way more useful to shape your own opinion - of course if you listen to all of the sides of a given conflict. And if you already have it you just have to bare with the fact that other still don't and they just need to express and discuss it.
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sugarpoultry In reply to vesner [2009-09-18 22:55:27 +0000 UTC]
Well yeah you are talking way extreme.
But saying an opinion that is opposite of the persons isn't 'being mean.' It's simply an opinion. That's not the issue.
What I'm talking about is, "You liked Bush? You ****** *****, go die in a fire!!" kind of stuff. It's when they personally attack YOU for your opinion. Its not about the opposition. They can express their opinions just fine, but making it personal, NO.
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lizzy-thelizzard In reply to vesner [2009-09-24 04:25:24 +0000 UTC]
You can express your opinion and still be nice. Debating can even be "nice." It's when someone starts spouting that you're "wrong, uneducated, uninformed, only forming your opinions based on others..." that's what sugar's talking about.
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sugarpoultry In reply to vesner [2009-09-19 01:34:49 +0000 UTC]
LOL I think you are taking all this a little too literal. The statement still applies correctly.
Haven't you ever watched Bambi? LOL
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Kajm In reply to sugarpoultry [2009-09-19 00:05:31 +0000 UTC]
Exactly. Or making false assumptions about what you believe, and then telling you that You have it wrong...
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The-Gambling-Gamer [2009-09-18 20:15:03 +0000 UTC]
OMG! I have to save this one. I know well too much of these type of people.
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