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Published: 2011-08-27 16:58:18 +0000 UTC; Views: 4191; Favourites: 50; Downloads: 92
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[Fullview plz]Done for a Zelda-themed art contest with friends. :]
Really excited about the upcoming Zelda game, Skyward Sword. And I really love Debbie's character! He's so delightfully fruity!
I wanted to draw him in a somewhat more statue-esque, realistic way, but made him more broad and muscled to give him more of a striking presence.
I left out the yellow diamonds on his inner cape and the tear on his cheek, as I thought so many diamonds made the drawing look somewhat crowded.
I know it's not that similar to the game version, but it's not supposed to be - it's a very different take/perspective on his design.
Drawn with pencils and coloured in gimp.
Thanks so much to everyone who gave such helpful critique to help improve the initial version (which I put in scraps)!
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Fabulous!
the two biggest points to improve upon(IMO) are:
1) his right shoulder. I think the straight line needs a bit more to emphasize the shoulder. Sort of like he's wearing shoulder pads, only compared to his left shoulder it's drooping quite a lot. If you compare it to his chest line(if you get what I mean) he has almost no space where it would connect, though I wouldn't suggest moving his chest down. Basically I'm just saying maybe make the line from his neck to his shoulder less steep and give the shoulder a little bit more emphasis.
2) his crotch. I dunno if it's just me but I think it is too far to the left. It also seems a bit too... erect for my tastes ^.^
But still as I said earlier, Fabulous! sorry I took so long to get around to critiquing(is that even a word?) :<
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1) Ah yeah, I get what you mean!
Almost seems as if a part of his shoulder was sloped off at a smooth angle, rather than match the natural muscle of his chest, and be accurate to what his other shoulder and upper arm are like -
2) Erect? 
Yeah, I'll refrain from drawing larger man-things in the future! ^__^
Thanks so SO much for leaving such an awesome critique!
Was really insightful!
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Sorry, not really erect, more... immasculating 
You're totally welcome, any time! ^.^
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i just fucking love this
i love this so hard
that i'd marry it
and i might
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I want to delete it so it can die and not give my OCD crack D:
THANKS AMY I LOVE YOU
but marry me instead <33333333333333333333333
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He is super fabulous! :3 But in all seriousness, I think this is definitely one of your best to date. He's got a good flow to him, and your shading is very thoughtfully done. And I love how you built him too--he's still got an effeminate air about him, but he looks like a man who could seriously mess things up. ^^
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Thanks so much, you amazing woman!
I really appreciate you taking the time to leave such a wonderful comment! :']
Much and many hugs to you!
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looks awesome... but his legs are still too short... think of his crotch as the middle/half way point of his height... id extend his total leg length a tad... but increase the knee to heel length a tad more... the pose seems to imply a shortened view... so you could even get away with exagrating the length of his legs longer than half...
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I think at this point his legs look okay in terms of length - any more, and the legs'd be almost twice the length of his upper body body, when in human male anatomy, they're roughly the same size (and as seen from his torso, I've drawn him very broad and stocky deliberately, so long, spindly legs will look misplaced and anime-ish) - but I think you're absolutely right in that his lower leg is really small proportionatley with the rest of the legs - I'll go back to the original version and extend the legs so that the upper legs are more extended, and then, for the rest of the extension, will focus on lengthening his shin bones. And then hopfully, I can make the entire ower body less wide perhaps to make it seem more "belonging" to the upper body.
Thanks SO MUCH for taking the time to leave such awesome critique!
I'll get workingon it after work tonight!
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No problem
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Signed on a few times but can't see you on.
Wanna try deleting me and re-adding me and see if that fixes things?
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I will try that... Damn you SKYPE!!! LOL P.S Your new artwork is looking amazing
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Bloody skype lol!
Thanks so much man!
So does yours! Blue Lucifer looks amazing!
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This looks ~fabulous~
Only thing I can really say for anatomy is what's already been said of the limbs (legs in particular). I'm actually a fan of the chest and the presence it gives him, but the legs kinda detract from it a bit.
Overall great piece though! Really love the colors as well as the pose. :>
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W00t!
Yup, seems the anatomy is still very off.
I've now (literally a few minutes ago) lengthened the legs - before, the left (his right) foot ended halfway down his shin - so hopefully this helps soften the stumpy look people flagged? :]
Thanks so much for the critique!
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Definitely helps with the overall feel for sure!
And of course!
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I have no idea how to feel about this. It's amazing yet scary, wonderful but horrifing and just feels plain wrong but so right at the same time. The eyes seems a bit weird though and don't get me started on the crotch...
P.S. Also you forgot the black diamond under his left eye unless you planned for it to not be there
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I lol'd with this comment! xD
I'm really glad you got the "grand but off-putting" kind of vibe - that's something I really wanted to acheive with this - to make GHirahim look cool, but also somwhat unsettling. To really try and capture that freaky-deaky shiz he pulls in the game!
YES NEEDS MOAR CROTCH. etc.
Yeah, sorry about the eyes. They look so badly done and vacant.
The eye-diamond was deliberatly left out, as with the cape, I think so many diamond pattersn would look a bit overly busy.
Thanks for the comment!
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Despite seeing this before, I still think this is amazing from you SD. I love the colours and the way you left the pencil lines in the artwork still!
One thing that I do notice is the length of his legs compared to his chest and upper body - they're too short. It's noticeable when you zoom out, but you kind of forget about it when you zoom in to look at the amazing details you've done so far. <3
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Thanks so much Lady J! :'D
After the one I showed you, I went back and tried to focus more on adding lights and shadows in - And I'm so glad you like the colours, my BF said they looked a bit dull and bleak, so I've been a bit panicky about it since, and played around with making it a bit brighter or contrasted.
I hate that feeling after you finished and upload something and thne you see all the flaws in it. xD
Wrote down perspective and human/lower body proportions on a notepad and circled to practise improving!
Thanks so much for the comment!
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No problem SD! ^___^
Oh really? You changed the colours and contrast? I can't really see any difference, but it still looks as brilliant as ever. <3
"I hate that feeling after you finished and upload something and thne you see all the flaws in it. xD
Oh god yes. I hate that sooo much. xD I tend to ask friends for any critiques/comment/opinions before submitting art to the public.
And no problem! Anytime! 
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Lengthened the legs now - hopefully that sorts some of the issues out? :]
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I'm okay thanks. THinking of ways to improve this art thingie xD
How's you? :]
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Oh cool
I'm fine thanks
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Ha ha, okay, even as much as I hate the character, this is pretty funny.
It's well-drawn too, but my only critique off the top of my head is that he's a bit short and wide to me.
Good job though.
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Tonch,
Master Sage Comics
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Whutwhutinthebutt? Blasphemy! xD
His quirky character's pretty much what got me exicted for SS in the first place, for my part.
Thanks for the flagging!
I'll make sure totry nd brush up on anatomy some more.
I think the torso looks a bit wide, as I tried to make him standing in one direction, but his torso twisting to look more at us - and I'm shit at perspective.
I SHALL PRACTICE MORE!
THanks again! ^_^
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Ha ha, it's true, I can't stand him and he's kind of ruining Skyward Sword for me. Ask EL, she'll tell you
But yeah, I agree that the torso looks kind of wide. Although it does kind of give him a sense of power.
Keep it up
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Tonch,
Master Sage Comics
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Crazy! xD
I think he's pretty refreshing after Ganondorf's tirade of predictability, and Nintendo trying to "outbadass" themselves with more interpretations of Ganon and then with Zant.
THere's something more MM about SS than the general OoT rehash attitude Nintendo has with Zelda. It's definately, if anything, going to be an interesting experience.
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Oh I'm as tired of Ganondorf as anyone, especially after his awful role in Twilight Princess. And most of the non-Ganon villains tend to be lame.
But this guy.... not my kind of character. 
I'm still interested in seeing how Skyward Sword shapes up, though. A lot of what I like about it is how humble it feels after Twilight Princess.
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Tonch,
Master Sage Comics
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Agreed. Bellum was just forgettable, Vaati irritates me, and poor Zant. Majora and Skull Kid were amazing though
TP was an overly bloated, self-praising mess that tried to recreate OoT but ended up just making the series parody itself, and was generally pretty unimaginative and empty.
SS thankfully, unlike the last few games, seems to have a radically different sort of atmosphere to it.
- I just now lengthened the legs, as others had pointed out they were an issue, as they were too short. Hopefully that makes the image look less stumpy :]
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Oh yes, don't even get me started on Twilight Princess. The first half I thought was great and full of stuff, but the second half of it was like the development team fell asleep. Good grief. If they ever do Ganondorf again, he'd better have a similar character as he did in the Wind Waker (which is the best version of him hands-down).
And yeah, the legs helped a lot! It looks much less squat now.
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Tonch,
Master Sage Comics
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In my opinion, the game felt like a generic "meh" game that never even remotely recalled any Zelda sort of feeling until I saw the Zora, who I feel are something quintessentially Zelda.
And after that, it was a game about Midna, with Link as her bumbling sidekick, rather than Heroic Link with an enigmatic deuteragonist.
Lately, it seems as if, bloated on their self confidence and awareness of success, that without being the ever-trampled underdog, Nintendo have just become lazy and complacent, and it really shows in their games.
I won't even get started on the clumsiness (and dare I say laziness outright) of handing Metroid to Team Ninja, and letting them create essentially a game that shits on the very fabric of the Metroid games and universe... :[
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Oh cripes, I'm pretty sure we feel exactly the same about Other M and no further discussion on that is required
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Tonch,
Master Sage Comics
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I wish to create a drawing now of a more moderate, sensible Samus stamping on the face of Zero Suit Samus telling her to "Stop. Talking" and dedicate it to you.
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Ha ha ha, you don't have to do that
I'm sure we all get the message already anyway
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Tonch,
Master Sage Comics
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You're welcome! His muscles and pose are awesome!
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Oh u!
Seriously, thanks so much for taking the time to stop by and be such an AMAZING TELEPHONE <3333
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Lol you're very welcome!
Wait I'm a telephone, what?
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Not sure, I think I just recently use "telephone" as a particle word to mean anything! xD
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