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Published: 2011-01-17 08:14:24 +0000 UTC; Views: 1371; Favourites: 28; Downloads: 9
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Description Well, almost seems like a record, huh?
This makes 3 submissions this month...

Anyways, ever since G4 came out, I decided to draw my ponysona, Dreamstar, as an attempted G4-style - this is my first attempt.
Usually Dreamstar has a happy expression, however I decided to try for a more upset one - namely, being lost.

And as an added point of interest - the background is my very first attempt at a purely tablet-created... well, creation.
There was no original background drawn by traditional means (as is all my drawings up to date), here I decided to give drawing a complete background with my new tablet a go.

So... how did I do?

Dreamstar and Angelpony concept belongs to me, aka
My Little Pony and Ponyville belongs to Hasbro.
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Comments: 115

TarriPup In reply to ??? [2011-05-11 05:41:35 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!!
This was my very first attempt at a BG purely made with a tablet and Photoshop.. it took me FOREVER!

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PanicPagoda [2011-05-05 00:32:13 +0000 UTC]

Aww... cute ^^ I had heard about the phenomenon of young adult males liking My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, so being a 21-year-old guy, I decided to watch the first episode... and I was hooked. XD I've only seen two episodes so far, but I can't wait to see the rest.

Anyway, I miss having conversations with you it's fun to talk about stuff like nudism XD

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-05 00:40:53 +0000 UTC]

Haha yeah... I heard it too, and I think one of the biggest draws of FiM is that it's not as focused on females only, like G3 was - that was my greatest hate of G3.
G4 (FiM) has male ponies also, and actually has a plot to each episode, AND has humour..

You have to see the other episodes - seriously, you won't be able to watch them fast enough! There are some really funny ones in there..

Haha lol well if we become MLPs, then we can just be naked all the time..

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-05 01:34:51 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it helps that they got Lauren Faust to develop it, since she's worked on some Cartoon Network shows like the Powerpuff Girls (I used to watch that all the time ,) and I can really see the style. It works very well.

I'll make sure to watch them all - I have a good feeling!

Aw yeah, I'd love that so much!

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-05 01:43:15 +0000 UTC]

Yush she must be a magic person!!
Powerpuff Girls is AWESOME... from the city of Townsville!!
I've always liked Bubbles..

YOU BETTER OR YOU WILL DIE D8

Hehe.. I already have a pony version of myself.. have you got one?

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-05 02:00:17 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, that's for sure!
It's such an awesome show!
Me too - she's so cute ^^



Sadly, I don't, because I can't draw, and I don't know what version I should make!

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-05 02:18:57 +0000 UTC]

Hehe plus she wears blue and blue is my favourite colour!
And she is blonde - like me.
And she is the more innocent..

You should at least give it a go!!
DRAW!!
And you should make a FiM styled ponysona of yourself - after all, it is the version of MLP you are hooked on, right?

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-05 02:57:51 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I like blue too! ^^
She always helped bring the most cuteness to the show...

Yeah, I should!
Okay, I'll try, even though my drawing skills are so primitive...
Yeah, so I guess I'd better try that.

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-05 03:10:06 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I always saw them as being on some kind of scale... Bubbles on the happy, innocent end, uh... *can't remember the names* TEH ANGRY ONE on the other end, and teh red one.. Blossom? Which was Blossom? Well, she was in the middle.. like teh neutral one..

Well if you draw, you can improve on that skill, y'know!
Might I humbly suggest you use a picture of an MLP as a reference while drawing, however?

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-05 08:36:44 +0000 UTC]

Buttercup was the angry one and Blossom was neutral!

Yeah, I haven't been drawing much because I shared a room with my unfriendly brother until last summer... but thankfully, now I have my own room now and I can do what I what (like sleep naked - I'm typing this from my bed after I just woke up! ) I've been really busy with school this year, but I'll graduate in only a few weeks, so I'll have time soon.
That's exactly what I was thinking of doing!

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-05 22:28:48 +0000 UTC]

That's right!!

(I'm guessing you are implying that as you typed the reply, you were naked, am I right? )
I've been busy too with schoolin' and stuff.. but graduating will happen at the END of the school year, not the middle..
So I have to wait until summer approaches..

Good!! Using an actual screenshot or something from the MLP:FiM show should help, I think.
And you must tell me when you are finished!

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-05 23:14:43 +0000 UTC]

Haha, yeah - I was naked! It felt great!
Yeah, school years for me have always started in late August or early September and ended in May or June.
I'm pretty excited about summer approaching.

Yeah, it'll be essential for me.
I'll make sure to tell!

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-05 23:29:10 +0000 UTC]

YAY!!
Schooling starts in February and finishes November/December.. <<
SUMMER IS NOT TILL DECEMBAH!! D8<

Cool!!
....have you started?

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-06 01:51:44 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it felt great! Especially since I haven't slept naked in a really long time actually (mostly because it was so cold during the winter, but it took a while to try it again since I was so tired and overwhelmed by school...)
I see...
Ow, that's no fun! DX

I spend all day studying for my final exam, so I didn't have time to start yet... but I just got back from finishing it, so I'll have time to start pretty soon! I'm also not sure what design would be best for me...

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-06 06:18:03 +0000 UTC]

Haha.. I sleep naked even DURING winter..
I just put another blanket on if needed, because I'd rather have an extra blanket than be uncomfortable with a layer of clothes..

Why is it no fun?

Design as in if you'd be a pegasus, unicorn or just a plain normal earth pony?

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-06 09:54:05 +0000 UTC]

That's great!
Yeah, I should have tried that... but it'll be summer here soon anyway! Someday I'll just try to live nude most of the time!

Well, it's pretty different from my usual school schedule...

Yeah, I'm having trouble deciding on that, but also the colors and other physical features.

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-07 04:07:34 +0000 UTC]

YAY!!

Haha well.. that's because you silly people live in the Northern Hemisphere where it's dull and boring.
As for me, I live in the infinately awesome SOUTHERN Hemisphere, where everyone is a rockstar.

Well... first of all, you have to decide what makes you YOU.
Tell me what might make you special from other people...

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-07 11:08:40 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it's an exciting thought!

Okay, I see.

Hm, I'm not sure about that... I have a hard time with that...

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-08 05:53:11 +0000 UTC]

YAY!!

Hehe yeah, rock on, dude!

Hmm well.. what things about you make you you? Like your interests, hobbies, things you are good at?

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-08 12:07:47 +0000 UTC]

If there's anything else about nudism you want to talk about, just let me know!

Yeah, I will!

Hm, well, I really like listening to music and writing creatively... I'm a big fan of Zelda and Sonic... IDK.

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-08 20:55:47 +0000 UTC]

Lol well what else is there to talk about?
Hmm.. well if there was a naked society, even made to be a different social environment with different rules (our own civilisation, different and unique from the one we live now), what kind of things would you think would be cool to have in it?
(Don't be afraid to mention things that might seem... weird or "wrong" (because "wrong" can cover silly things that aren't really wrong.. ))

Other than that, just groove to an accordian or something..

Hmmm... so you might be more to be into music, creativity, and a bit of a gamer... sorta like creating a new world, or playing through one, with a huge fan for music... although you don't CREATE music, do you? So maybe we can skip that part...
If you like to create by writing, it'd be a pen thing, and is it you like those games because of adventure?
Maybe it could go along the lines of Penquest or something...
In this instance.. I wonder if being a pegasus would suit you best?

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-08 22:36:08 +0000 UTC]

I don't know! Is there anything else you like to do naked besides sleep?
Hm, let's see - since everyone would be naked and free and there would be all kinds of bodies, everyone should be more accepting, so it should be illegal to be rude toward others for not having perfect bodies. Also, there should be huge public baths just like in ancient times. Wearing clothes ever would be illegal unless they were completely necessary (like if it got too cold ) but hopefully it'd be in a place that's almost always warm, so people can spend their whole lives naked!
I'm not sure what else to say - I'd love to hear your kinds of ideas, too! Do you imagine you'll eventually end up living like a full-time nudist later in your life?

Hm, okay.


Yeah, I like the idea of creating a new world - though I don't create music, I do like collecting it, and I am pretty knowledgeable about some random genres.
I like writing really crazy, satirical types of funny stories. I guess I like games because of adventure, as well as a good story that gives me a reason to want to play.
I've been thinking that - maybe pegasus.

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-08 23:06:12 +0000 UTC]

I actually like being naked in general...
Yeah. Actually, apparently kids that grow up nudist actually have a greater self-esteem when it comes to their bodies - that in itself promotes how much better it would be if nudity was okay.
And there is no such thing as perfect bodies, just bodies perfect for the individual.
Hehe I'd want it to be in a warm place.. You'd wanna spend your whole life naked, right?
And I dunno.. I want to!! I want to have a nice large countryside property someday where I can create my own little world, my own little "civilisation" where nakedness is part of it, sorta like a little fantasy.

And hmmm... well what would you think if in this naked society, you'd find that you might happen across a couple having sex?

NOW GROOVE TO THE XYLOPHONE!! 8D

Hmm... so creating by writing as well as a taste for adventure.
So your name and symbol would probably be more represented by perhaps a quill and adventure...
What do you think? Does it feel like it fits you?

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-09 00:26:09 +0000 UTC]

How much time do you typically spend naked each day? Do you live with your family or anyone? (my family being around almost constantly is the only reason I hardly ever try it. )
Yeah, that's definitely true! I found this website years ago, and it's got some good articles and stories in defense of naturism. [link]
Exactly - so many people waste their lives trying to make their bodies absolutely perfect due to poor self-image.
All right! Yeah, that would be fun! If everyone in the world magically became accepting of me being naked, I'd gladly do it (I just feel uncomfortable imagining that some people would be grossed out by me.)
That's a great idea! I'd gladly join that! I just imagine someday when we're older and retire, we can just live naked the rest of our lives!

Hm, that's a tough question... since we'd all be naked, we'd be sort of going back to nature, but I'd also want us to be civilized enough so we don't turn into completely uninhibited animals, so I'm not sure... what do you think?

Okay!

Yeah, that sounds like a pretty good idea!

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-09 00:42:42 +0000 UTC]

Not much... maybe 8 hours around abouts? That's the time I spend in bed..
I live with mum and dad so I can't just go nude on my own accord, unless I get the house to myself with the knowledge they won't come back for a while...
Yeah... people don't realise that they look great the way they are.. thing is, society and media FORCE the image of what a "normal" person should look like..
Lol no why would anyone be grossed out by you?
Haha lol... maybe we can gather like-minded peoples and all buy up some land together, and form our own little community and district where within you just go naked..

Actually, the question originally was somewhat a trick question, and you replied to it right.
Well.. it IS a tough question. When I said a "couple" I meant a pair of lovers, which means it wouldn't be mindless sex, but an expression of their feelings for each other, much like a kiss.
...it depends on a few things I guess... but ultimately it's not like that would be a BAD thing, would it?

NOW BOOGIE TO THE GLOCKENSPIELS!! 8D

Yay!! So we've figured the hard part out!
What shall be your name? Penquest was a suggestion of mine, basically that could be an example of what your pony name might come across as..

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-09 01:28:42 +0000 UTC]

Okay it's nighttime over here, so I just got into bed and I'm typing this... naked! It'll actually be the first time I've slept nude since I last told you a few days ago, because I forgot to do it in the past few days...
Me too... even when they say they'll be away for hours, I assume they're suddenly going to return for some reason, and it'll be a disaster if they catch me naked...
Exactly - people need to stop letting the media control them. DX
Well, I just imagine people will find me disgusting without clothes... mainly I hate having unsightly body hair...
Yeah, we should! Until then, we can just hang out at nude beaches and stuff...

Okay, good!
I see... well, the love between 2 people is a beautiful thing, and as long as they weren't hurting anyone, then I guess it'd be okay.

Okay!

That's great! ^^
Hm, I'm still deciding on that... I want it to be pretty unique, for sure... that's a good name, but I'm still not sure...

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-09 01:41:06 +0000 UTC]

Congratulations!
(Lol sorry that sounded like I was mocking you for it, I was. But it's more of a friend-mocking-a-friend thing, so it's all in fun. )
Yeah exactly!! But when they go for an overnight thing, or away for a few days, that's when I lose the layers!!
I'm sure you'd be fine... if you are not sure about that hair, why not shave it off, or even trim it?
Haha yeah!! I'd have to get passed the awkwardness though! Besides, we kinda currently live in different countries, don't we?

Yeah... we'd have to go over it and stuff. But if it was two people just wanting to screw around with anyone, then that is a definate no.
But if two lovers were in a moment, in a public area, then... well that would be like them snuggling up and kissing, right?

GROOVE, BABY, GROOVE!!
Now groove to the triangle!!

Hmm.. well take a writing tool maybe. Pen or quill, something like that, which can represent writing.
And maybe a name for adventure, like journey or quest, that sorta thing..

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-09 09:30:50 +0000 UTC]

Haha, thanks!
Yeah, I understand - we can't be too serious when we're talking about being naked!
Aw yeah, me too! The last time I was completely home alone for a few days, though, it was when this crew was spending all day painting the outside of the house... DX but the next time I get the chance, I'll try to spend as much time as possible naked! (Like if I want to get the mail, I'll just run out to get it when it's dark. )
Yeah, I'll do that, because I'd feel awkward having hair everywhere... and I mean everywhere (but I don't want to gross you out by saying where I'm most embarrassed by it. )
Awkwardness? What exactly do you mean?
Well, yeah - New Zealand and the northeastern part of the U.S. are pretty far. But that's no reason we should stop dreaming! Who knows, we might meet someday...

Yeah, I think it would be okay in that situation... our society would be a lot more open to this stuff, even things like sex, so there wouldn't be anything wrong with a sweet display of love like that...

Okay!

Yeah, that's a good idea - and that sounds good, too!

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-09 21:04:29 +0000 UTC]

Well in the context of the way society is today, no we can't be serious.
LOL I remember when my parents left before sunrise because they had to catch a plane (they had this REALLY big net), as soon as they were gone, I stripped off right there in the driveway, before going inside..
Where are you most embarrassed by that hair then, thinking it would gross me out?
Well, if you went to a nude beach, would you feel a little awkward at first about going nude with other people around? Or would you not be at all?
That is true!! Who knows... we, like other like-minded people, might all band together, buy up a large piece of land jointly, and create our own little village!

Yeah... in this society, sex would be just an expression of love, just like kissing in public is in this society..

NOW GROOVE TO TEH SILENT DOG WHISTLE!! 8D

Yeah I know! Sometimes I'm pretty good at thinking this sorta thing. It's how I arrived at my own pony name, after all.
So any ideas on a name and cutie mark yet?

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-09 21:27:46 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, exactly!
That must have felt awesome! I'm constantly afraid of my neighbors seeing me - I've briefly been naked outside a few times, and I always assume someone will be watching through a window...
Okay, if you must know... the part is my butt.
Of course I'd feel a little awkward at first but I'd only go to a nude beach if I felt strongly confident about myself (if I went with a friend, I'd feel more comfortable... )
Yeah! We should give it a try if we find a good place!

Yeah - sex between two lovers wouldn't be viewed as dirty, but beautiful...

Okay!

That's great!
I'm glad it was a success!
I'm still thinking... I've got some annoying stuff to deal with in my life now

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-09 22:05:45 +0000 UTC]

But if there was a nude society, then it would be just the same as if we are clothed..
Yeah it did feel awesome!! Haha me too... that time of morning though no one was up, and it was dark, and yeah, I get that feeling too..
Haha lol. Butt the butt is just a butt~
Very true - I would feel awkward, but I still wanna try it!! And if I have a friend then I know I'm not alone..

Yeah great idea! Also, you wouldn't have to worry about the thought of neighbours looking out the window and seeing you..
The only thing is, we'd all need to buy ajoining properties in the country someplace, in the same country, in the same area..

Hehe it's like you are dancing to NOTHING!! 8D *suddenly, raging rabid dogs come charging at Pagoda, driven to insanity by the dog whistle*

Yeah!! Plus I get to help someone out!!
Ah.. yeah I have lots of annoying stuff to deal with too..
Thankfully my brain works all the time..

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-09 23:18:04 +0000 UTC]

Haha, yeah.
That's great! That's a good time to try it. I'm so afraid of the consequences of someone spotting me, because who knows what they might do... I've been naked outside at night during past summers, just spending time lying on the grass in the backyard... plus, it's fun to sit and feel different textures on my butt, like grass, wood and concrete.
LOL, yeah - I'd just rather have it shaved, because no one likes hairy butts.
Yeah, I'd love that! And exactly - having a friend helps relieve fear, because you're both in the situation together.

Yeah, it would be so much better than my current situation!
That's for sure... it sounds difficult...

Oh no!

Yeah, that's really great!
For me, I'm struggling with trying to find a job that's right for me, since I've just finished school...
Mine too!

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-10 00:00:10 +0000 UTC]

Haha same - scared someone might spot me.. And I agree.. though if I had to think about it, I think there might be alot more people out there that wouldn't care about it than society leads us to believe..
Haha I've done that myself.. Feels nice and natural.. and lookin up at the stars..
LOL... what exactly would you shave on your body?

Haha yeah... we'd all have to live in the same country.. unless combined we were able to afford an island or something..
THEN WE COULD GO NAKED RIGHT TO THE BEACH!!

RUN, PAGODA!! RUN!! D8

Meh.. job hunting isn't easy... for some it is, for some it isn't... but right now I needa finish my course.
But remember, in your spare time to work on the other things, or it will never get done!

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-10 00:28:13 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, that's possible! I assume New Zealand is more relaxed than the U.S. is about nudity, because I heard this ridiculous story of a guy who was arrested for being naked in his own home! [link] That scares me...
Yep, it feels so good!
Well, I'd particularly want to get rid of the hair that's close to my butt's, uh, "crack" area...

Aw yeah, our own island! I'm sure it's a lot easier to get privacy on an island than part of a landmass, because the only people who could see us would have to come by boat!
Yeah, we could spend our lives as a bunch of buck-naked beach bums!

Okay!

It's tough because there are so many opening positions for jobs that are way too advanced for me and require past experience DX but I know my favorite things are writing creatively and talking about music.
Yeah, I won't forget!

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-10 01:47:30 +0000 UTC]

Well.. yes. That sounds like a typical american thing.
It is not illegal to be naked in your own home. Obviously, since you live in america, it must be, but that's because americans are idiots (with exceptions, I'm not calling you an idiot! )
Apparently the USA is way too backward in that regard... lol in your case, you might wanna live elsewhere..
*finishes watching the video*
Yep. Americans are just idiots. YOU GOTTA GET OUTTA THAR!! D8

Haha yeah.. I kinda like the idea of being sorta tidy anyways, even over my bare skin..
Some even shave it ALL away..

YEAH!! We may need to collect a bunch of people, and buying an island won't be cheap..
It would need to be a good size too... but we wouldn't want too many people, like.. we won't want to start with a huge population I think..

RUN FASTER!! THEY ARE CATCHING UP!! D8

Yep, sounds familiar. But how can anyone get experience in something if they don't allow for newbies?
I thought we agreed on adventure and creative writing?

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-10 09:56:58 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it's no surprise that this happened in the U.S.
Exactly, that's just just logic... and haha, I understand - I think I'm a rare exception to typical Americans.
I've thought about that too... maybe I'd feel better in a country that's more relaxed toward nudity, like many parts of Europe (for example, there's a video on Youtube called "family naturists" that show that... it's hard to imagine any country whose attitude toward nudity is as warped as the U.S.) DX Obviously, a man making coffee in his kitchen naked isn't going to hurt anyone. In a country like America, though, he's perceived as a threat in some way, because the culture is so warped by fear from watching countless stories of pedophiles and other predators... so somewhere along the line, America decided to adopt a mindset that all nudity is grossly sexual and wrong... it makes me sick to be attached to a group of people who think that way...

I like the idea too - no body hair means you'll be even more naked!
I think I might do that, so I'll completely feel everything I touch and sit on... plus, I miss how smooth I felt before I developed body hair.

Yeah, it would be awesome! But yeah, that's for sure...
I wouldn't want too many people either... we could just start with a few running around naked...

Okay!

I know - it's just ridiculous... DX
Well, yeah, we did!

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-10 23:24:11 +0000 UTC]

Yeah... and you know the thing that is also horrid? The mother and child trespassed onto his property, which means it's THEIR fault!
Well the USA is stupid. Sad thing too is apparently they are misled, and did you know how many horrible things the USA has done? I wouldn't blame you if you don't know, because the media apparently also hide stuff like that from the public..
That said, the US celebrating and dancing that Osama Bin Laden was shot dead is very stupid. They aren't innocent, and I wouldn't be surprised if the USA falls victim again to another attack.
Yeah.. I wonder which country would be most relaxed? But to be honest I think it should be a country that isn't highly populated, and stuff..
Actually nudity is a panacea against all the sick stuff in the world.. you know? Clothing actually breeds all this bad stuff..
What you want though is a group who can be free like that and not worry about stupid stuff like the USA?

LOL!! Well some girls and guys prefer no body hair, actually!
Haha you are going to shave away all your body hair?

Haha yeah.. well depends on how many... how many people do you think would be a good number for starting up an island thing?

OMG YOU WERE SONIC ALL ALONG?? D8

So the name should follow suit!
Something to do with a pen or quill, and something to do with adventuring!!

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-11 01:03:11 +0000 UTC]

The U.S. is really going downhill - it really distresses me to hear people talk about how proud they are to live in a "free country," when that really isn't true...
I've heard about the things the U.S. has done, too... plenty of things hidden from the public. I saw an awesome video that compiled a bunch of horrible things the U.S. has done, set to the song "What a Wonderful World," and the video was called "God Bless America" or some ironic title like that...
Yeah, it's bound to happen again...
I'd prefer a less-populated country too.
Yeah, exactly! So many people never realize how positive nudity can be... no wonder Americans are so stressed out, uptight and unhappy, since they're so disturbed by something as natural as the human body, all thanks to brainwashing...
Absolutely! I want to be with people with a fresh mindset, not the same closed-minded attitude that's most common in America...

Yeah, I've heard that!
I don't know if I'll shave all of it... I just assume that people are creeped out by naked guys with hairy bodies...

I don't know... not many, since I sure don't want too many people.

Yes!

Yep, it should!
Yeah, that could work!

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-11 01:34:49 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, the USA is the most restricted "free" country I've ever known.
Well that song and title would have been ultimate sarcasm. Sad thing is, the rest of the world knows how bad the USA is, and to be honest... I think it wouldn't be too long before the whole thing just collapses. But since it's up on it's high horse, it's gonna be a major crash and burn. First things first though, USA will have to go to war with someone to try "help" themselves.
Haha New Zealand has a grand population of about 4 million people.
Yes... unfortunately brainwashing kids into thinking it's bad is also mental abuse.. isn't it?

Well I am sorta more comfortable with a shaven body for some reason..
Hmm.. well got an estimate? 10? 20? 50? 100?

Well there is still Penquest, or Quillquest, or something like that..

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-11 02:09:20 +0000 UTC]

Definitely... I hate how only a few people here actually realize it.
It was perfectly sarcastic and ironic! One thing I think Americans like to think is that people in other countries aren't really happy, and secretly want to move to the U.S. - what a delusion! I'm not sure when this country will collapse, but it'll probably happen within the next century... and yeah, that sounds typical of the U.S.
That sounds nice!
It is mental abuse, but people simply prefer not to think that because they assume they're "protecting" kids by teaching them that nudity is such a bad thing. The incredible irony of the "moral" crusade is that nudity is now mostly restricted to things like strip clubs and porn, therefore making kids even more interested in seeing those unhealthy portrayals of the human body.
Epic logic fail.

I think it's because whenever I've seen a naked body in TV, movies or artwork, it's almost always been smooth and hairless...
20 maybe? I wouldn't want to bring a lot of people at first, because that increases the chance of there being bad people in the bunch.

Yeah, that could work. I'm just still annoyed by trying to find a job - it's hard to get in the mood to draw...

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-11 02:35:09 +0000 UTC]

Apparently alot of americans don't realise just what's beyond the US border... it's like there is nothing, or that anything beyond that isn't "civilised" or something..
Haha well do you know how many internet ads I've seen on the net where you can get a green card so you can live and work in the US? I mean seriously, why the HELL would I wanna live there?
Lol actually it may happen as soon as this decade... who knows? Maybe it's the whole 2012 thing..
Hehe you mean you like the population being so small? There are cities with more people than this country!
EXACTLY!! Also clothing gives people a false protection. If you are clothed, it won't stop evil people from doing bad things to you, y'know... if you are naked, you are more aware!

Yeah... so I mean shaven could be the thing when it comes to nudity.
Yeah.. so 20 people.. we might need a few million dollars each to buy an island..
Unless it was a nice place but cheap..

Yeah.. I've had that trouble.
You gotta keep your happy life part thing up though or you will never be happy - just remember finding a job is a job in itself!
You have to spend some time for yourself too, y'know!

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-11 10:17:31 +0000 UTC]

That's for sure... so many Americans live in blissful ignorance their whole lives.
Wow, so those are the kinds of ads that non-Americans have to deal with? Wow... I haven't seen any ads about living and working in other countries... wait, you wouldn't want to live in a fat, lazy, closed-minded country like the U.S., with its highly intelligent people? [link]
Yeah, that's possible...
It is really small - I live about an hour from New York City, which has over 8 million people... it's fun to go there, but it can be really overwhelming because it's so big
That's true! It's not healthy to have such an emotional relationship with clothes... in ancient times, true warriors could defend themselves and survive fights in the nude!

Yeah, I think so! Hair just gets in the way of the feeling against my body!
Haha, yeah but maybe there's a cheap place somewhere... or we could find a remote island that people almost never visit and no one would care if a bunch of people were naked on it.

It feels awful...
Yeah, I know, and I'll remember that.
That's for sure! I think Americans also put too much effort on the belief that the more you work, the happier you'll become... while other countries that don't work as much have reported higher levels of happiness and smaller levels of stress...

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-11 21:23:18 +0000 UTC]

Yeah... I see the Green Card ad all the time when I visit sites... it's the whole "LIVE AND WORK IN AMERICA!" sorta thing.. it's actually irritating..
Yes, because no one knows anything apparently, but believe me, they aren't all stupid like that, THANK GOD. In fact all of my american friends I talk to are actually intelligent (and they also are ashamed of the USA, not surprisingly).
Lol and there was one about 9/11, asking when that happened.. it happened on 9/11, duh! Which is 11/9 here, because the day comes before the month in date format here, 11th of September 2001. Four planes were hijacked, two crashed into the WTC in NYC, one into the Pentagon in Washington, and another into a field in Pensylvannia, which was believed to be targeting the White House, however it is also believed the passengers heard about the Twin Towers, and figured it was linked, so they rose up against the hijackers... I think that was what they believed might have been the case, unless Al Qaeda wanted to take out the USA's grass.
The country to keep an eye on now is China, that's going to be the next super power, I reckon. I'd have to wonder how the USA will react... they can't obviously challenge China, that would be stupid. So... I guess they will challenge China, then?

Really? So NYC has twice the population of New Zealand? (Sounds right).
The largest city in New Zealand is Auckland, it is the ONLY city in New Zealand to have over 1 million people, and it has about one third of the country's population living there. My hometown is about 2 hours from Auckland.
And here is a bit of a question for you! Which is New Zealand's Capital City? Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch, or Dunedin?
And here is another question... see if you can get this: Which one of the following is NOT a New Zealand city? Tauranga, Invercargill, Whangarei or Adelaide?

I know!! In fact too, alot of people worked in the nude as well!! It was common! In fact, it seems that in all previous civilisations, nudity was not an issue at all!
The Olympic Games were even done in the nude!

Hehe true, but remember that body hair is normal too.. But then, we get our hair cut, right?
Haha yeah.. but we should find a place within some good country's juristiction, and also be able to have access to necessary services if needed, right?
We should have an island that is pretty much untouched... that way it can be more natural, too!!

Actually, I don't think that belief that the more you work the happier you'll be is isolated to just the USA.. people tend to believe the more money you can earn, the happier you'll be. It's probably the same drabbled my own father goes on about, he goes off at me if I try doing something for myself, or try to write my novel, or do art, or anything like that because I "haven't got a job yet".
Right now I'm doing a course at Northtec, so it's not so much.. but he tends to be against me doing creative stuff because it's not "constructive"... yes, I know, what I do IS constructive.. THEN he orders me off my computer (where I am doing my creative thing) and tells me to watch TV instead. Yep.

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-11 22:04:38 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it sounds irritating! DX
That's true - I've encountered plenty of intelligent Americans, but the stupid ones really stick out to the point that the U.S. is stereotyped as a stupid country, since it's home to people like Paris Hilton, Kevin Federline, and that lady that sued McDonald's when she spilled hot coffee in her lap.
I heard that... wow, not knowing when 9/11 happened just shows how horrendously stupid some people are... and yeah, I'm really happy for those passengers who fought to go toward the field and preventing an even worse disaster from happening.
I doubt the U.S. will challenge China, because they're so dependent on them... almost EVERYTHING we use is made in China (even though China isn't a particularly "good" country...)

Yeah, NYC is enormous.
And I see. I go to NYC occasionally by train, when it gets too boring where I live.
Hm... it's Wellington.
I know Adelaide is in Australia, because I saw it mentioned in a book or website once.

Exactly! It's too bad people started rejecting nudity at some point along the way...
Yeah, it must have been a lot more fun!

Well, I just don't like body hair, because I think people would be grossed out by being around a hairy naked guy.
Yeah, definitely!
Yes! The more natural, the better!

Yeah, that's true... people are so serious about jobs, that anyone who doesn't have a job for any reason is viewed as an inferior person...
That's awful to hear. DX I can tell he doesn't understand art at all... and ugh, most TV is such a brain-rot. DX

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-11 22:31:08 +0000 UTC]

It is, I just shake my head slowly and ignore it. They make it seem so great.
Yeah but doesn't EVERYONE sue over there, over the little things that are based on stupidity? I heard one time this guy who was breaking into someone's house hurt himself, and successfully sued the homeowner.
I mean seriously, the USA is f*#ked up. I bet alot of Americans think they run the world.
Well... you just need to look into a bit of history. I would say the USA was somewhat like China, maybe not exactly the same, but still. I mean from what I gather, they basically just "took" Hawaii into themselves, and this was in World War 2.
Hmmm... I dunno, wasn't George Bush the President at the time? Would it really have been a disaster if he was in the White House?
Yeah... I'm scared of large cities, too big for me. I remember I never saw the outskirts of Los Angeles, the city was just HUGE and it was a DUMP. I hated it.

Yes!! It is Wellington!! Now did you KNOW that, or did you look it up?
And yes, Adelaide is the odd one out.. I figured you'd get that right though..
Now.. make it harder... which of the following places (city/town) is NOT in New Zealand? Ohakune, Otaika, Dargaville, Gore, Kamakura, or Kumara?

I think it was some class thing originally, or something... I have to wonder though, do you think that a thousand years in the future, nudity will be commonplace in public? Or do you think clothing will continue to entrap us?

Haha so a natural nature civilisation with nakedness, but with technology too, right?

Haha.. it's really sad to hear that. I was born with a mental condition which plays a negative part in finding a job, to be honest.. Even though this condition actually makes me more CLEVER.
Yeah.. funny thing is, he bitches about what's on TV all the time anyway!
And yes... I'm the creative soul of the family. Everyone else is not creative. Thus I'm the odd one out.

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-11 23:46:03 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, good... it's just propaganda.
I've heard of that too... I haven't been able to find a legitimate source of it, though, but I know that burglars have sued when homeowners intentionally hurt them... it's completely absurd.
It certainly is... America seems to like making itself the center of the world's attention.
Yeah, I think I've heard that too.
I'm not sure... I wouldn't want those innocent people killed, though.
I spent a few days in Los Angeles... it's okay for a little bit, but I wouldn't want to live there!

Well, I'd heard of Christchurch, but then I remembered hearing Wellington, too.
And yeah, okay.
Okay, I have no idea... Kamakura?

Well, I think the human body is slowly becoming more acceptable... I'm always hearing about more celebrities willing to pose nude, which used to be incredibly shocking just a few decades ago. Plus, I think people are just getting sick of the old, tired views about the human body being shocking and obscene (at least that's what I've interpreted.)

Yeah, most likely some technology! Maybe in a temporary place we could go all the way and have no technology at all. (By the way, anything else you want to talk about involving nudity? I think it's a lot more fun to discuss than politics and stuff )

Aw, I'm sorry to hear that... it's awful when people can't appreciate clever people.
Sounds like my dad... he constantly watched the news, and he thinks he's so funny to make remarks about everything, especially commercials... the worst is when my family is trying to concentrate on a movie or something, and he just makes childish remarks that no one but him thinks are funny or clever.
That's terrible... I think I think in a different way from the others in my family, but they just don't seem to understand...

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-12 02:36:52 +0000 UTC]

Yeah.. I'm sure once you are there, it's not all roses..
AH BUT!! Doesn't the law clearly state you can do that when it's in your own home??
Oh, I was just referring to Bush.. He is one of the idiot americans too anyway.

Haha well you might have heard of Christchurch when they had the two earthquakes. Then it may have mentioned Wellington, since it is the capital.
Wow.. you got that one right as well!! Kamakura is in Japan.

Yeah, I think there are alot more people out there who are fine with nudity than society wants to admit - it's just that most people are afraid of the "shame" and whatnot that society will put over them for speaking up on it.
But it will soon happen, I believe, where public nudity will once more be okay in society.

Well I think we still need technology, while still retreating back to a more natural way of life, y'know?
Haha you really love talking nudity.. Well.. what else can we cover on that issue?

Oh yesh, dad does that. We will be trying to watch a TV show, or a movie, and dad will then (a number of times) comment on how stupid it is, or provide unneeded negative narration, or even just waiting for the movie or show to start again after the commercials, THEN switch it to teletext, or start flicking through the channels to "see" what else is on.
The other night my brother and I were watching Two and a half men, and he said "If there are no objections, I'm going to change the channel." My brother and I both objected, because we were watching it, so dad said "I'm changing the channel." GO, DEMOCRACY!!

Yeah. My family has trouble with me, ESPECIALLY my father. Lol maybe you have Asperger Syndrome.

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-12 10:15:12 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, they'll always hype it to be better than it really is.
I'm not sure... it might, but it's become so warped lately that the law would probably favor the burglars anyway, particularly if they're white and rich.
Yeah, he's pretty dumb but it still wouldn't be worth it if innocent people had to die.

Yep, I heard all about those earthquakes... then I vaguely remembered hearing someone say "Wellington" in a New Zealand accent. (I haven't heard that accent very much in my life, but I did hear it in this interview. [link] which doesn't mention Wellington, however.)
All right, great! Yeah, it sounded Japanese.

I think so too, since there are countless people whose voices have never been heard... I think the truth is that a lot of people would be really interested in spending time nude... however, they not only assume that society would shame them, but they have a tough time trying to explain that nudity can be a great thing.
I bet it'll happen too... one of these years, nudity will come back in style!

Yeah, exactly! I just think it'd be fun to spend at least a little time living completely in nature.
Well, I think nudity is a lot of fun to talk about! It helps me escape from my current life situation of living in a house where I've grown up being taught that nudity is wrong... plus, my family has been acting so depressed in the past few years. When I eventually live on my own, I want to spend some time hanging around with people nude, which would never happen in my current life situation! Haha, I have no idea what to talk about... is there anything else you like to do (or you'd like to do) naked?

I don't know how my dad developed such a horrible sense of humor - seriously, I've seen all kinds of comedy-based movies and TV shows, and you would never see his style of "humor" anywhere... I guess he's attempting narration-based humor like mystery science theater 3000 or beavis & butt-head watching music videos, but his humor is so poorly executed, it's surreal... everyone in my family but him very visibly hates his jokes, but when we act offended or annoyed, he laughs to himself - so basically, he's telling jokes only to amuse himself, not caring that others wish he'd stop. It's pathetic...
Wow, he sounds ridiculous! I hate it when people are so self-centered like that, because, yeah, if you and your brother are sitting there watching something, it probably means you're interested in it! DX

Mostly my dad and brother have trouble with me, because I think the most differently from them (but my brother is the least enjoyable to deal with, because he acts like he outright hates me.) I'm not sure about that... I mean, I looked it up and I may have acted similar in some regards when I was younger, but I think my social skills have improved since then... if I did, though, I wouldn't be surprised if my parents had simply not listened to my doctors...

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TarriPup In reply to PanicPagoda [2011-05-22 19:47:02 +0000 UTC]

Well of course they do!! It's THE UNITED STATES, THE GREATEST COUNTRY *COUGH* IN DA WORLD!! 8D
(Yes, more mockery! )
Ah yes... because if you have money, then obviously it's okay, isn't it?
No no, I was saying if he was the ONLY person in the White House at the time!

Yeah... Kiwi Accent! Although... Justin Bieber, not knowing what german is... I mean seriously??
That only proves further how stupid americans are!! I mean I knew what german and germany was when I was a kid!!

Exactly... because society itself condemns nudity, so therefore, despite being logical and true, they would be ridiculed and probably referred to as perverts, and also, especially in the USA, probably be arrested and fined and sent to jail for being a pedophile or rapist.

Haha yes!! Nudity will be back, and then various parts of the bodies (genitals) won't be considered indecent or rude, and there would be accessories to work WITH the body, and stuff!
I mean, you can look good naked as it is, but you can also make yourself look good too with just a single necklace, etc, y'know?

Yeah - basically you'd still have your technology, which can be totally nature-driven, but the world around you is all nature-rific!!
And beyond communities, the world is allowed to grow in it's own natural way, not in a way where humans are spreading right through the countryside and preventing the rest of nature to continue on...
Yeah, I see exactly what you mean. My girlfriend is keen on the nudity part, although she once "jokingly" asked her mum if she'd ever let her be a nudist, and her mum came out with a straight "no"...
And I like to talk about it too, because the fact that "you have to be covered up" and "nudity is indecent and wrong" is a TOTAL pet peeve of mine. So I usually might ask people what their thoughts are on nudity and stuff.
Well... if I have the house to myself I'm naked, but you know that. I also play my playstation or wii naked as well in those cases, and do everything naked then, even use my computer..
Next month I may have that opportunity to do that again, btw..
I would ALSO love to go to the beach naked, and stuff. I also want to hang out with friends naked....
.....and I want to snuggle with my girlfriend naked... (even though we both think it would lead to... eheh...)

Yeah.. if we object to some of dad's jokes, or if he says something bad to offend us and we object, he will be like "OH! I'M ONLY JOKING!!" which he usually isn't, but he's trying to cover his butt.
On the TV front, we'll just get mad at him.

EXACTLY!! But then he can be a total pain in other ways - he usually goes aggro just for me being on the internet (he doesn't like me using it), or if my brother or I receive a text message, and even when I get SICK!! If I get the flu or bronchitis (I get bronchitis annually, like clockwork), he will bitch about it, and go off at me for coughing and stuff..
(Seriously... he does that... )

I am TOTALLY different in heaps of ways from the rest of my family. I'm the only creative soul in it - the others are all "hands on" and stuff... so of course I'm going to get bad stuff for it from daddy dearest. My brothers don't mind me and the way I am, though, thankfully.
My social skills have improved too, but that's thanks to having friends..

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PanicPagoda In reply to TarriPup [2011-05-26 12:05:49 +0000 UTC]

Haha, exactly!
Sadly, that's how the "pay-to-play" legal system works...
Well, yeah, but only if it was the only casualty, since innocent people were in that plane, too.

Yeah, it was pretty baffling...
I knew that as a kid too, and it's true that Americans can be that stupid, but Justin Bieber is Canadian - it's unusual because I'm sure that most Canadians are a lot smarter than Americans (not to mention friendlier, too.) That's why I've always been intrigued by Canada - it's just on top of the U.S., but it seems like such a nicer place to live (one of my best friends is Canadian, too. )

That's the sad truth... Americans have decided to demonize all nudity, as if nudity is to blame for how screwed-up people act - it's actually the other way around, because the taboo attitude toward nudity has led to people becoming more perverted.

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if full nudity became acceptable in the future, since it keeps growing in popularity! [link] Sadly, though, I don't think it'll be accepted by the majority during my lifetime, but at least it's been on the rise!
That's right - people can look great with certain accessories, too!

Yeah, I'd like it to be that way!
Exactly - the last thing people need to do is get in the way of nature...
LOL, I'd never imply my interest in nudism to any family members, even as a joke. I might have hinted at it in a joking fashion when I was younger, but I'll never try that again. If I told them it would make me happy, I wouldn't be surprised if they'd let me try it, but I guarantee they'd feel uncomfortable about it... plus, I just don't have a very comfortable relationship with my dad or brother (the only one I'd feel comfortable being naked in front of, hypothetically, is my mom...)
It's the same with me, because I find it really refreshing when people have an open attitude toward nudity.
Me too! I try to do anything I can naked!
All right, awesome!
I wish I could hang out with friends, too...
Awww ^^ I wish I had a girlfriend, so I could try snuggling naked with her, too... though yeah, I do think that's also a natural way to get in the mood to "do it..."

Yeah, my dad really doesn't care that nobody but him laughs at his "humor," but he's also pretty oblivious about the world around him in general, like putting on my mom's pants and jackets and saying "it was the first thing I saw!" How embarrassing to everyone... I'm always making sure I won't end up like that. We all get really mad at him when he talks over a movie or TV show, too - it's just like going to the movies and dealing with one idiot who thinks it's funny to add commentary, when he should just SHUT UP!

Wow, that's horrible! It's so unfair... Your dad should stay away from mine, because he's always on the Internet or coughing due to post-nasal drip or something, and he doesn't make an effort to take care of himself unless my mom says something, because he's so stubborn...

Yeah, I just got back from a family reunion trip, and having to spend a good amount of time in close contact with my other 3 family members at the house we stayed at really got on my nerves. They are some negative views that really anger me... thankfully we returned home yesterday, so we can finally have some alone time in our rooms - that's what I'm experiencing right now! I slept so well for the first time in a long time last night, not having to share a room with my brother...
Yep, that's the best way to improve those skills! I wish my parents had been more concerned about the fact that I never seemed to have friends or invite anyone over when I was younger, but that's probably because my parents are such miserable loners themselves... seriously, I could use one hand to count the number of times per year that they invite guests over.

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